USNews 2011 Leaked


Santa
Enjoy!

http://i.imgur.com/jxGWV.jpg

1. Yale - 100
2. Harvard - 97
3. Standford - 93
4. Columbia - 91
5. Chicago - 88
6. NYU - 87
7. UC Berkeley - 85
7. UPenn - 85
9. Michigan - 84
10. Virginia - 83
11. Duke - 82
11. Northwestern - 82
13. Cornell - 78
14. Georgetown - 77
15. UCLA - 76
15. Texas - 76
17. Vanderbilt - 75
18. USC - 71
19. Washington U-STL - 70
20. George Washington - 69
Enjoy!

http://i.imgur.com/jxGWV.jpg

1. Yale - 100
2. Harvard - 97
3. Standford - 93
4. Columbia - 91
5. Chicago - 88
6. NYU - 87
7. UC Berkeley - 85
7. UPenn - 85
9. Michigan - 84
10. Virginia - 83
11. Duke - 82
11. Northwestern - 82
13. Cornell - 78
14. Georgetown - 77
15. UCLA - 76
15. Texas - 76
17. Vanderbilt - 75
18. USC - 71
19. Washington U-STL - 70
20. George Washington - 69
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Bla Bla
If this is for real.....I can't help but feel good about NYU falling off top 5...lol...no offense but they waitlisted me.
If this is for real.....I can't help but feel good about NYU falling off top 5...lol...no offense but they waitlisted me.
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MAB79
And I am even more thankful that NYU rejected me but CLS accepted me *lol*
And I am even more thankful that NYU rejected me but CLS accepted me *lol*
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Oldtimer
Apparently it is all a hoax: http://leiterlawschool.typepad.com/leiter/2010/04/some-readers-claim-the-new-us-news-law-school-rankings-have-been-leaked.html

Any way, I would advice reading Leiters' explanation of how easy it is for Law Schools to play with the ranking methodology(http://www.leiterrankings.com/faculty/2003differences_usnews.shtml). According to him, more than half of the elements in the US News rankings can be played with by the Law Schools. And the incentive for cheating is huge as schools know that legions of ranking freaks will base their decisions solely on those rankings. A self fulfilling prophecy then normally follows...

It will be interesting to see whether those are the real rankings and, if so, the details to find out what changed from one year to the other.
Apparently it is all a hoax: http://leiterlawschool.typepad.com/leiter/2010/04/some-readers-claim-the-new-us-news-law-school-rankings-have-been-leaked.html

Any way, I would advice reading Leiters' explanation of how easy it is for Law Schools to play with the ranking methodology(http://www.leiterrankings.com/faculty/2003differences_usnews.shtml). According to him, more than half of the elements in the US News rankings can be played with by the Law Schools. And the incentive for cheating is huge as schools know that legions of ranking freaks will base their decisions solely on those rankings. A self fulfilling prophecy then normally follows...

It will be interesting to see whether those are the real rankings and, if so, the details to find out what changed from one year to the other.
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Santa
Of course the elements can be played with, but in every serious ranking the first 14 law schools are the same anyway. IN my opinion, USNews offers a reasonably good oversight.
Of course the elements can be played with, but in every serious ranking the first 14 law schools are the same anyway. IN my opinion, USNews offers a reasonably good oversight.
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Santa
http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/rankings

The leaked rankings were correct! =)
http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/rankings

The leaked rankings were correct! =)
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Of course the elements can be played with, but in every serious ranking the first 14 law schools are the same anyway. IN my opinion, USNews offers a reasonably good oversight.


Meh. 14 is extremely arbitrary. No reason to stop at Georgetown and exclude UCLA and Texas. It's really better to think of this as groups of about equal quality:

Group 1: Yale

Group 2: Chicago, Columbia, Harvard, Stanford

Group 3: Berkeley, Cornell, Duke, Georgetown, Michigan, Northwestern, NYU, Texas, UCLA, UPenn, UVA

Group 4 would be like the next 10-15 schools and so on.

And, of course, these rankings are all for JD programs, so these are of only limited use for LLM applicants.
<blockquote>Of course the elements can be played with, but in every serious ranking the first 14 law schools are the same anyway. IN my opinion, USNews offers a reasonably good oversight. </blockquote>

Meh. 14 is extremely arbitrary. No reason to stop at Georgetown and exclude UCLA and Texas. It's really better to think of this as groups of about equal quality:

Group 1: Yale

Group 2: Chicago, Columbia, Harvard, Stanford

Group 3: Berkeley, Cornell, Duke, Georgetown, Michigan, Northwestern, NYU, Texas, UCLA, UPenn, UVA

Group 4 would be like the next 10-15 schools and so on.

And, of course, these rankings are all for JD programs, so these are of only limited use for LLM applicants.
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Oldtimer
http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/rankings

The leaked rankings were correct! =)


Wow! You were right!

There are also big changes in the specialities. For example, NYU is back to no. 1 on International Law and Georgetown is now no. 2 in tax Law.

I wonder how many people are regretting their decisions due to these changes? Hmmm....
<blockquote>http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/rankings

The leaked rankings were correct! =)</blockquote>

Wow! You were right!

There are also big changes in the specialities. For example, NYU is back to no. 1 on International Law and Georgetown is now no. 2 in tax Law.

I wonder how many people are regretting their decisions due to these changes? Hmmm....
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MAB79
hehe...the ranking addicts:-)

There is a german website with commentaries on LL.M. programs. Not regarding all schools but with respect to the popular ones:

They state that HLS, CLS and Cornell are having quite the best programs but YLS and Stanford open an academic door faster...they also state that Chicago, Northwestern and UCLA have great programs too...

And the best is: If you ask a HLS LL.M. graduate he will tell you that ist was the best year of his life and HLS rules...if you however ask a Cardozo graduate, he will tell you exactly the same with respect to Cardozo...

So, if you do not plan to work in the U.S, I guess it is more important that you do an LL.M. than where...not only for professional (both of the above mentioned examples work in the same magic circle law firm), but also for personal reasons
hehe...the ranking addicts:-)

There is a german website with commentaries on LL.M. programs. Not regarding all schools but with respect to the popular ones:

They state that HLS, CLS and Cornell are having quite the best programs but YLS and Stanford open an academic door faster...they also state that Chicago, Northwestern and UCLA have great programs too...

And the best is: If you ask a HLS LL.M. graduate he will tell you that ist was the best year of his life and HLS rules...if you however ask a Cardozo graduate, he will tell you exactly the same with respect to Cardozo...

So, if you do not plan to work in the U.S, I guess it is more important that you do an LL.M. than where...not only for professional (both of the above mentioned examples work in the same magic circle law firm), but also for personal reasons
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