Michigan vs. Fordham


Mogsi

Hello everyone!
I am having a bad time choosing the right LLM program for me.

I have been admitted to UPenn, UMich, Berkeley, UCLA, Fordham, Notre Dame and Northwestern, but so far I only received decent scholarships from Fordham, UCLA, Michigan and Notre Dame.

Right now I am between Michigan and Fordham and I am interested in entrepreneurship and venture capital. I know that Michigan is better ranked, but my idea is to stay one year after finishing my LLM working at law firm in NYC. What do you think would be better for me?

Thank you!

Hello everyone!
I am having a bad time choosing the right LLM program for me.

I have been admitted to UPenn, UMich, Berkeley, UCLA, Fordham, Notre Dame and Northwestern, but so far I only received decent scholarships from Fordham, UCLA, Michigan and Notre Dame.

Right now I am between Michigan and Fordham and I am interested in entrepreneurship and venture capital. I know that Michigan is better ranked, but my idea is to stay one year after finishing my LLM working at law firm in NYC. What do you think would be better for me?

Thank you!
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Mogsi

HEY! I would really appreciate an answer =) thank you!

HEY! I would really appreciate an answer =) thank you!
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anja

Job prospects for LLMs are bleak, even for 1-year internship/fellowship/international associate gigs. A diploma from a higher-ranked school might be better for the job hunt.

Job prospects for LLMs are bleak, even for 1-year internship/fellowship/international associate gigs. A diploma from a higher-ranked school might be better for the job hunt.
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Corfin

as a current Michigan LLM who has very similar interests (finance, private equity..) I can only recommend you to come to Michigan. I cannot speak for other schools and I do not mean to make any negative assumptions as they are all great so I will put down a couple of bullet points to point out some things that you should be looking at when making your decision.

1. course offer - as someone who is very specific about their interests always look for the upcoming course schedule - I can not overstate how important it is to have an idea about what a particular school (no matter how prestigous) offers in current curriculum. At Michigan my biggest problem was to actually select the courses that I want the most as the course offer is very strong on the above mentioned topics - you can have an entire semester filled with classes dealing with private equity, finance, accounting -and these are all law courses. which brings me to point no. 2

2. look at what opportunities you exploit at other graduate schools - in your (and mine) case - the business school. I am sure all of the universities have great business school, especially Upenn, but enrolling at business course might not always be easy (i know for a fact thats the case at Upenn). At Ross Business school (top 10 business school) you can choose ANY course that they offer and it is very easy to get in - AND you can take up 6 credits - if you want you can take 3-4 MBA course on any topic that you want to get a business perspective as well. Ross has a great offer on private equity, VC and enterpreneurship

3. (back at the law school curriculum) look for clinics that the law school offer (and again - your chances on getting in) Michigan Law has a lot of relevant clinics that might interest you including enterpreneurship clinic and even venture capital lab (you work on real deal with Detroit based investors - it may be a little more complicated to get in but totally realistic)

4. as for networking opportunities - you dont have to worry about the lack of opporutnities - we get law firms and practitioners coming to recruit and speak at michigan pretty much every day - and at Michigan you are not going to compete for these contacts with too many people because we are a small size and not everybody wants to stay in the U.S after graduation. However you have to be aware of the fact that getting a full time job in the U.S.A is a very hard thing to accomplish no matter where you go to school so you should prepared to invest significant amount of time to do your own research and contact people on your own.


Hello everyone!
I am having a bad time choosing the right LLM program for me.

I have been admitted to UPenn, UMich, Berkeley, UCLA, Fordham, Notre Dame and Northwestern, but so far I only received decent scholarships from Fordham, UCLA, Michigan and Notre Dame.

Right now I am between Michigan and Fordham and I am interested in entrepreneurship and venture capital. I know that Michigan is better ranked, but my idea is to stay one year after finishing my LLM working at law firm in NYC. What do you think would be better for me?

Thank you!

as a current Michigan LLM who has very similar interests (finance, private equity..) I can only recommend you to come to Michigan. I cannot speak for other schools and I do not mean to make any negative assumptions as they are all great so I will put down a couple of bullet points to point out some things that you should be looking at when making your decision.

1. course offer - as someone who is very specific about their interests always look for the upcoming course schedule - I can not overstate how important it is to have an idea about what a particular school (no matter how prestigous) offers in current curriculum. At Michigan my biggest problem was to actually select the courses that I want the most as the course offer is very strong on the above mentioned topics - you can have an entire semester filled with classes dealing with private equity, finance, accounting -and these are all law courses. which brings me to point no. 2

2. look at what opportunities you exploit at other graduate schools - in your (and mine) case - the business school. I am sure all of the universities have great business school, especially Upenn, but enrolling at business course might not always be easy (i know for a fact thats the case at Upenn). At Ross Business school (top 10 business school) you can choose ANY course that they offer and it is very easy to get in - AND you can take up 6 credits - if you want you can take 3-4 MBA course on any topic that you want to get a business perspective as well. Ross has a great offer on private equity, VC and enterpreneurship

3. (back at the law school curriculum) look for clinics that the law school offer (and again - your chances on getting in) Michigan Law has a lot of relevant clinics that might interest you including enterpreneurship clinic and even venture capital lab (you work on real deal with Detroit based investors - it may be a little more complicated to get in but totally realistic)

4. as for networking opportunities - you dont have to worry about the lack of opporutnities - we get law firms and practitioners coming to recruit and speak at michigan pretty much every day - and at Michigan you are not going to compete for these contacts with too many people because we are a small size and not everybody wants to stay in the U.S after graduation. However you have to be aware of the fact that getting a full time job in the U.S.A is a very hard thing to accomplish no matter where you go to school so you should prepared to invest significant amount of time to do your own research and contact people on your own.


<blockquote>Hello everyone!
I am having a bad time choosing the right LLM program for me.

I have been admitted to UPenn, UMich, Berkeley, UCLA, Fordham, Notre Dame and Northwestern, but so far I only received decent scholarships from Fordham, UCLA, Michigan and Notre Dame.

Right now I am between Michigan and Fordham and I am interested in entrepreneurship and venture capital. I know that Michigan is better ranked, but my idea is to stay one year after finishing my LLM working at law firm in NYC. What do you think would be better for me?

Thank you!
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Mogsi

Thank you Corfin! I am still doubtful........

Thank you Corfin! I am still doubtful........
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jsd

Michigan for certain. No second thoughts

Michigan for certain. No second thoughts
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Mogsi

Thank you JSD, I understand that Mich is better ranked, but are Fordham LLM programs bad rendered? I mean, I know that LLM is differently ranked than JD (although there is no official ranking) and they tend to obtain better jobs at the . On the other hand I am afraid that the Mich LLM program might be too small and a bit isolated.

Thank you JSD, I understand that Mich is better ranked, but are Fordham LLM programs bad rendered? I mean, I know that LLM is differently ranked than JD (although there is no official ranking) and they tend to obtain better jobs at the . On the other hand I am afraid that the Mich LLM program might be too small and a bit isolated.
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jsd

Thank you JSD, I understand that Mich is better ranked, but are Fordham LLM programs bad rendered? I mean, I know that LLM is differently ranked than JD (although there is no official ranking) and they tend to obtain better jobs at the . On the other hand I am afraid that the Mich LLM program might be too small and a bit isolated.


There is a huge rank difference between the two. Tremendous. For JDs it might actually make some sense to choose Fordham because it helps then stay in NY and network but for an LLM it's pointless because the chances of a job are equally bad for both.

<blockquote>Thank you JSD, I understand that Mich is better ranked, but are Fordham LLM programs bad rendered? I mean, I know that LLM is differently ranked than JD (although there is no official ranking) and they tend to obtain better jobs at the . On the other hand I am afraid that the Mich LLM program might be too small and a bit isolated. </blockquote>

There is a huge rank difference between the two. Tremendous. For JDs it might actually make some sense to choose Fordham because it helps then stay in NY and network but for an LLM it's pointless because the chances of a job are equally bad for both.
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