Hi folks...can anyone give an opinion about Stanford vs. Columbia...in corporate/securities law...?

Columbia is Ivy League, it's in New York (networking, life experience and Entertainment - whenever possible, if possible)..

on the other hand Stanford has a smaller class, it is very academic and prestigious, and it is in California (quality of life and different life experience).

if you guys had to choose, what would it be? And to find a job afterwards, people say that since Stanford is a more selected and smaller class, candidates often preferred in NYC jobs than Columbia...it that true?

if some Americans or someone who worked in NYC could give their input I appreciate...

thanks for the replies...hope to get different points of view..

regards for the Brazilians, specially...

What about the same question in regard to Harvard vs Columbia?

Regards to you too, also from Brazil!

Stanford / Harvard > Columbia anyday.

Harvard vs Columbia I am convinced that Harvard by far...

but as to Stanford vs. Columbia I believe it is still a bit difficult to decide...mainly because the NYCity factor and the "Ivy Leage" factor that are two advantages for Columbia...

But, overall, since Stanford is much more difficult to get in, and the classes are smaller, it makes the university and the program more selected...

again, for me it is not that clear so far...

but thanks for the answers...keep'em coming...

Stanford / Harvard > Columbia anyday.

Harvard vs Columbia I am convinced that Harvard by far...

yeah...indeed...the harvard argument is just "it's harvard"...

what about Columbia vs. Yale? two ivy leagues...Yale is more academic...Columbia more practical...yet, remains the doubt for a LLM...mainly regarding job offers afterwards...

Regarding Stanford, I think you could see it from this perspective: it's Silicon Valley, it's got the Arthur and Toni Rembe Rock Center for Corporate Governance, the John M. Olin Program in Law and Economics, and all those programs/clinics/centers regarding technology, business and law...

My opinion can be a little biased, because my interests are mostly in regards to Law and Technology, Entrepreneurship Studies etc., but I think Stanford could come up with a very strong program for those wanting to study corporate/securities with emphasis in the tech sector and that is perhaps a good enough reason to choose it.

yeah...indeed...the harvard argument is just "it's harvard"...

yeah...indeed...the harvard argument is just "it's harvard"...

what about Columbia vs. Yale? two ivy leagues...Yale is more academic...Columbia more practical...yet, remains the doubt for a LLM...mainly regarding job offers afterwards...

yeah...indeed...the harvard argument is just "it's harvard"...

Yep... strange as it is, this weights a lot on my thoughts (and every one else's, it seems), but I get a little uneasy because it's not such a strong argument per se.
I would like to be more certain as to the reasons why Harvard is so well regarded that it allows us to live with the "it's Harvard" line of thought. What's behind this "it's Harvard"?
And, more importantly, why does it always seems to win over such arguments as "it's in NYC", "it's closer to the firms" etc.?

yeah...indeed...the harvard argument is just "it's harvard"...

what about Columbia vs. Yale? two ivy leagues...Yale is more academic...Columbia more practical...yet, remains the doubt for a LLM...mainly regarding job offers afterwards...

I don't know... I think Yale sounds a bit too academic to facilitate a job opportunity in Brazil... most of the lawyers I see in big firms here are from Columbia (but this too could be bias on my side and/or information asymmetry), followed by a mix of Harvard, Stanford, Berkeley and NYU.

That argument of Yale is too academic is a bit mundane, getting into YLS is more difficult and selective than Harvard, the LLM classes are smaller, and all law school rankings rank Yale higher than Harvard.
I know corporate mandarins who studied in Yale and they are not academic at all, but rather very adept lawyers in their commercial fields.

Yeah, I totally agree with you...

the point to raise this questions about X vs Y is to give more variables and personal opinions to help people accepted in those schools to decide...

of course if a Law School grants some partial scholarship or any type of relevant financial aid this is a major factor to help decide...

but if no school offered any financial aid?

and you were accepted in Harvard, Yale, Stanford and Columbia (first of all, if a person like this exists, congratulations! rsrs)...to which one would you go?

having in mind that you focus is to get an "overview" of different law fields...? Probably Harvard in this case...or Yale.
My choice in this case: Harvard

and if you wish to focus in Corporate and Securities Law? People often say Stanford or Columbia...
my choice in this case: Stanford

so far....but this answers are just at this moment....who knows...maybe tomorrow I'll change my mind.

WHAT ABOUT YOU GUYS? WHICH ONE WOULD YOU CHOOSE?

tks..

(How's that for a mundane answer? ;-)

Pretty good actually....:-) But I would choose Yale anytime over Harvard.....

after having been battered and bruised by the finals and the low grading in the fall semester in columbia, i would definitely pick stanford for one simple reason --- pass/fail!!!!!!

I will just tell you this - If you are doing well in CLS, it is most likely that you will find a job. CLS is highly regarded by the NY law firms. They know that it is not a picnic like other LLM programs. I would take CLS.