Intern'l law is a bogus sector for U.S. law schools. No law school in U.S. has a real interest in international law.
International law? who cares!
Some applicants definetely care!Ergo,the law schools might also care,I guess!
Georgetown
Posted Apr 12, 2005 01:01
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Some applicants definetely care!Ergo,the law schools might also care,I guess!
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Intern'l law is a bogus sector for U.S. law schools. No law school in U.S. has a real interest in international law.
International law? who cares!
</blockquote>
Some applicants definetely care!Ergo,the law schools might also care,I guess!
Intern'l law is a bogus sector for U.S. law schools. No law school in U.S. has a real interest in international law.
International law? who cares!
</blockquote>
Some applicants definetely care!Ergo,the law schools might also care,I guess!
Posted Apr 12, 2005 02:56
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Emme, it seems you are a very cute girl, but what makes you devote more than 50K and one year precious time on something that you will not find a job after graduation? You must be naive enough that you embraced a dream to save the whole world before it overwalming you or do you have a very powerful and rich family so that you are free to choose whatever you like, even if what you did will have no effect to sensible others?
Emme, it seems you are a very cute girl, but what makes you devote more than 50K and one year precious time on something that you will not find a job after graduation? You must be naive enough that you embraced a dream to save the whole world before it overwalming you or do you have a very powerful and rich family so that you are free to choose whatever you like, even if what you did will have no effect to sensible others?
Posted Apr 12, 2005 09:56
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Emme, it seems you are a very cute girl, but what makes you devote more than 50K and one year precious time on something that you will not find a job after graduation? You must be naive enough that you embraced a dream to save the whole world before it overwalming you or do you have a very powerful and rich family so that you are free to choose whatever you like, even if what you did will have no effect to sensible others?
I think that when you like something,and that"something" being somewhere between collecting stamps and studying nuclear reactions in Mars, there is no "what makes you devote your time and money on that".I find your comment reasonable,it is something that people tend to ask,or think of international law,there is an awful lot of legal theory concerning why international law does not exist at all!That is only an opinion.Mine just happens to be different.
This has a very simple answer.You like something very much.You want to study it,devote that precious time,and the precious money on it.If you are in your early twenties,and the worst case scenario becomes true,that is your choice is completely wrong,so what?You have another 60 years to fix it!I am an optimistic person,and I think nothing bad can come out if you like something.
And let me make another thing clear.I am not here to save the world,never was.I think it is unrealistic.Nor is my family very rich,but they can afford to get a loan.I am only here to do what I like,and I use this as a first criterion.Then,we will just have to see about the rest.Time might prove you right and me wrong,and vice versa.I think this is the only answer,call me in 10 years,and if I am without work,and miserable with my life,then,you are perfectly right.But I think that right now you have absolutely no other way of proving your position.Even if you told me that you did an LL.M. in the same university I am about to and you are disappointed because of the reasons you mention,what I would answer is that we are two different people,so what applies to one does not apply to the other.
Best,
Em.
<blockquote>Emme, it seems you are a very cute girl, but what makes you devote more than 50K and one year precious time on something that you will not find a job after graduation? You must be naive enough that you embraced a dream to save the whole world before it overwalming you or do you have a very powerful and rich family so that you are free to choose whatever you like, even if what you did will have no effect to sensible others?</blockquote>
I think that when you like something,and that"something" being somewhere between collecting stamps and studying nuclear reactions in Mars, there is no "what makes you devote your time and money on that".I find your comment reasonable,it is something that people tend to ask,or think of international law,there is an awful lot of legal theory concerning why international law does not exist at all!That is only an opinion.Mine just happens to be different.
This has a very simple answer.You like something very much.You want to study it,devote that precious time,and the precious money on it.If you are in your early twenties,and the worst case scenario becomes true,that is your choice is completely wrong,so what?You have another 60 years to fix it!I am an optimistic person,and I think nothing bad can come out if you like something.
And let me make another thing clear.I am not here to save the world,never was.I think it is unrealistic.Nor is my family very rich,but they can afford to get a loan.I am only here to do what I like,and I use this as a first criterion.Then,we will just have to see about the rest.Time might prove you right and me wrong,and vice versa.I think this is the only answer,call me in 10 years,and if I am without work,and miserable with my life,then,you are perfectly right.But I think that right now you have absolutely no other way of proving your position.Even if you told me that you did an LL.M. in the same university I am about to and you are disappointed because of the reasons you mention,what I would answer is that we are two different people,so what applies to one does not apply to the other.
Best,
Em.
I think that when you like something,and that"something" being somewhere between collecting stamps and studying nuclear reactions in Mars, there is no "what makes you devote your time and money on that".I find your comment reasonable,it is something that people tend to ask,or think of international law,there is an awful lot of legal theory concerning why international law does not exist at all!That is only an opinion.Mine just happens to be different.
This has a very simple answer.You like something very much.You want to study it,devote that precious time,and the precious money on it.If you are in your early twenties,and the worst case scenario becomes true,that is your choice is completely wrong,so what?You have another 60 years to fix it!I am an optimistic person,and I think nothing bad can come out if you like something.
And let me make another thing clear.I am not here to save the world,never was.I think it is unrealistic.Nor is my family very rich,but they can afford to get a loan.I am only here to do what I like,and I use this as a first criterion.Then,we will just have to see about the rest.Time might prove you right and me wrong,and vice versa.I think this is the only answer,call me in 10 years,and if I am without work,and miserable with my life,then,you are perfectly right.But I think that right now you have absolutely no other way of proving your position.Even if you told me that you did an LL.M. in the same university I am about to and you are disappointed because of the reasons you mention,what I would answer is that we are two different people,so what applies to one does not apply to the other.
Best,
Em.
Posted Apr 12, 2005 10:30
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It is obvious fight against any ridiculous and Chinderan (or whatever the name is) are teh same person...let us not waste any more time with sad individuals.
Emma, the % of those that get hired from Georgetown is very high...it has a great reputations worlwide, and is not a waste of money. It may not be 'Harvard' but it's still reputable and some argue it has even better profs. I have some ties with international organizations, and they are very fond of GT graduates...
It is obvious fight against any ridiculous and Chinderan (or whatever the name is) are teh same person...let us not waste any more time with sad individuals.
Emma, the % of those that get hired from Georgetown is very high...it has a great reputations worlwide, and is not a waste of money. It may not be 'Harvard' but it's still reputable and some argue it has even better profs. I have some ties with international organizations, and they are very fond of GT graduates...
Emma, the % of those that get hired from Georgetown is very high...it has a great reputations worlwide, and is not a waste of money. It may not be 'Harvard' but it's still reputable and some argue it has even better profs. I have some ties with international organizations, and they are very fond of GT graduates...
Posted Apr 12, 2005 15:44
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Emme, Thanks for sharing thoughts with me. Telling people their deepest motives is more and more diffcult in the real world.
Although some suggest you not to waste time on others opinion, I know you still very curious to check this thread on what I think of your thoughts. Now here it is:
1, If you like international law for real (not for the shallow halo of being an international person; Also, a 9 month program will not warrant a decent job in diplomatic sector.), you're a very, very precious academic seeds, perhaps one in one thousand. But just like people said he will devoted himself to the bishop, it will be a very tough life accompied with your career. Even being a lawyer or academia in this feild will be quite out of mainstream. I suggest you cumulate a substantial amount of related working experience before you make your final decision.
2, You need not go to Georgetown to pursue your academic interests on international law. Many law schools have better prestige and intellectual traditions than it. HLS, CLS and DUke to name a few.
3, Some vulnerable points that Mary has mentioned could not be more vulnerable. For example, if you are in a position of choosing between Harvard and Georgetown, will you go for the later on the grounds that it has a couple of "better Professors" than Harvard. Is her standard of academic exellence identical to an objective one? Will the prof she mentioned related to your courses of interests? Can you count on this single professor to fullfil your academic endeavor and he will surely not move to other schools that you have just relinquished? Etc.
Emme, the legal world is fatastic and splendid enough for you to to make a second consideration before you obsessed on the international law. The ratio of complex and interesting cases to boring and repeatitive cases is smaller for international law than for others.
Emme, Thanks for sharing thoughts with me. Telling people their deepest motives is more and more diffcult in the real world.
Although some suggest you not to waste time on others opinion, I know you still very curious to check this thread on what I think of your thoughts. Now here it is:
1, If you like international law for real (not for the shallow halo of being an international person; Also, a 9 month program will not warrant a decent job in diplomatic sector.), you're a very, very precious academic seeds, perhaps one in one thousand. But just like people said he will devoted himself to the bishop, it will be a very tough life accompied with your career. Even being a lawyer or academia in this feild will be quite out of mainstream. I suggest you cumulate a substantial amount of related working experience before you make your final decision.
2, You need not go to Georgetown to pursue your academic interests on international law. Many law schools have better prestige and intellectual traditions than it. HLS, CLS and DUke to name a few.
3, Some vulnerable points that Mary has mentioned could not be more vulnerable. For example, if you are in a position of choosing between Harvard and Georgetown, will you go for the later on the grounds that it has a couple of "better Professors" than Harvard. Is her standard of academic exellence identical to an objective one? Will the prof she mentioned related to your courses of interests? Can you count on this single professor to fullfil your academic endeavor and he will surely not move to other schools that you have just relinquished? Etc.
Emme, the legal world is fatastic and splendid enough for you to to make a second consideration before you obsessed on the international law. The ratio of complex and interesting cases to boring and repeatitive cases is smaller for international law than for others.
Although some suggest you not to waste time on others opinion, I know you still very curious to check this thread on what I think of your thoughts. Now here it is:
1, If you like international law for real (not for the shallow halo of being an international person; Also, a 9 month program will not warrant a decent job in diplomatic sector.), you're a very, very precious academic seeds, perhaps one in one thousand. But just like people said he will devoted himself to the bishop, it will be a very tough life accompied with your career. Even being a lawyer or academia in this feild will be quite out of mainstream. I suggest you cumulate a substantial amount of related working experience before you make your final decision.
2, You need not go to Georgetown to pursue your academic interests on international law. Many law schools have better prestige and intellectual traditions than it. HLS, CLS and DUke to name a few.
3, Some vulnerable points that Mary has mentioned could not be more vulnerable. For example, if you are in a position of choosing between Harvard and Georgetown, will you go for the later on the grounds that it has a couple of "better Professors" than Harvard. Is her standard of academic exellence identical to an objective one? Will the prof she mentioned related to your courses of interests? Can you count on this single professor to fullfil your academic endeavor and he will surely not move to other schools that you have just relinquished? Etc.
Emme, the legal world is fatastic and splendid enough for you to to make a second consideration before you obsessed on the international law. The ratio of complex and interesting cases to boring and repeatitive cases is smaller for international law than for others.
Posted Apr 12, 2005 16:38
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1, If you like international law for real (not for the shallow halo of being an international person; Also, a 9 month program will not warrant a decent job in diplomatic sector.), you're a very, very precious academic seeds, perhaps one in one thousand. But just like people said he will devoted himself to the bishop, it will be a very tough life accompied with your career. Even being a lawyer or academia in this feild will be quite out of mainstream. I suggest you cumulate a substantial amount of related working experience before you make your final decision.
2, You need not go to Georgetown to pursue your academic interests on international law. Many law schools have better prestige and intellectual traditions than it. HLS, CLS and DUke to name a few.
3, Some vulnerable points that Mary has mentioned could not be more vulnerable. For example, if you are in a position of choosing between Harvard and Georgetown, will you go for the later on the grounds that it has a couple of "better Professors" than Harvard. Is her standard of academic exellence identical to an objective one? Will the prof she mentioned related to your courses of interests? Can you count on this single professor to fullfil your academic endeavor and he will surely not move to other schools that you have just relinquished? Etc.
Emme, the legal world is fatastic and splendid enough for you to to make a second consideration before you obsessed on the international law. The ratio of complex and interesting cases to boring and repeatitive cases is smaller for international law than for others.
Ok,first,I am not so much into getting into the diplomatic corps.Not my thing.Second,I am not goint to GT,but I think highly of this university.I am not currently in the process of choosing,I have chosen where I am going to.
As for choosing,I honestly think that it is hard to find an objective standard,everyone has their own and thats the greatness of being different than eachother.
Also,there is no issue of being obsessed with international law.I am not obsessed with anything,I just like it very much and I recognize the actual fact that there is a market-big or small-that employs the people that are in it,with one way or the other.Therefore I can combine my interest with possible professional plans.
As for the legal world as such,it is a very encouraging fact that one only has to make short-term plans in the first place for their lives.This is actually nine months we are talking about,so I am taking one step at the time,and see what works.I am quite ok with myself knowing what I like and what I do not like right now,but I am also very open to changing if I like something better or something works for me.I think this applies to most people.So,it is international law for the following year,and maybe the year after that,and then,I ll take it from there and see.There is a poem I like that says "If life was a straight line,we would only chase it,but fate wants it the other way,it is you that has to turn every now and then".I guess this also applies to me,I do not think there is one great big truth,that I am the only one privileged to be aware of it, a straight line that one follows.It is an ongoing process,each one tries to find their own truth,and make their own turns.
<blockquote>1, If you like international law for real (not for the shallow halo of being an international person; Also, a 9 month program will not warrant a decent job in diplomatic sector.), you're a very, very precious academic seeds, perhaps one in one thousand. But just like people said he will devoted himself to the bishop, it will be a very tough life accompied with your career. Even being a lawyer or academia in this feild will be quite out of mainstream. I suggest you cumulate a substantial amount of related working experience before you make your final decision.
2, You need not go to Georgetown to pursue your academic interests on international law. Many law schools have better prestige and intellectual traditions than it. HLS, CLS and DUke to name a few.
3, Some vulnerable points that Mary has mentioned could not be more vulnerable. For example, if you are in a position of choosing between Harvard and Georgetown, will you go for the later on the grounds that it has a couple of "better Professors" than Harvard. Is her standard of academic exellence identical to an objective one? Will the prof she mentioned related to your courses of interests? Can you count on this single professor to fullfil your academic endeavor and he will surely not move to other schools that you have just relinquished? Etc.
Emme, the legal world is fatastic and splendid enough for you to to make a second consideration before you obsessed on the international law. The ratio of complex and interesting cases to boring and repeatitive cases is smaller for international law than for others.</blockquote>
Ok,first,I am not so much into getting into the diplomatic corps.Not my thing.Second,I am not goint to GT,but I think highly of this university.I am not currently in the process of choosing,I have chosen where I am going to.
As for choosing,I honestly think that it is hard to find an objective standard,everyone has their own and thats the greatness of being different than eachother.
Also,there is no issue of being obsessed with international law.I am not obsessed with anything,I just like it very much and I recognize the actual fact that there is a market-big or small-that employs the people that are in it,with one way or the other.Therefore I can combine my interest with possible professional plans.
As for the legal world as such,it is a very encouraging fact that one only has to make short-term plans in the first place for their lives.This is actually nine months we are talking about,so I am taking one step at the time,and see what works.I am quite ok with myself knowing what I like and what I do not like right now,but I am also very open to changing if I like something better or something works for me.I think this applies to most people.So,it is international law for the following year,and maybe the year after that,and then,I ll take it from there and see.There is a poem I like that says "If life was a straight line,we would only chase it,but fate wants it the other way,it is you that has to turn every now and then".I guess this also applies to me,I do not think there is one great big truth,that I am the only one privileged to be aware of it, a straight line that one follows.It is an ongoing process,each one tries to find their own truth,and make their own turns.
2, You need not go to Georgetown to pursue your academic interests on international law. Many law schools have better prestige and intellectual traditions than it. HLS, CLS and DUke to name a few.
3, Some vulnerable points that Mary has mentioned could not be more vulnerable. For example, if you are in a position of choosing between Harvard and Georgetown, will you go for the later on the grounds that it has a couple of "better Professors" than Harvard. Is her standard of academic exellence identical to an objective one? Will the prof she mentioned related to your courses of interests? Can you count on this single professor to fullfil your academic endeavor and he will surely not move to other schools that you have just relinquished? Etc.
Emme, the legal world is fatastic and splendid enough for you to to make a second consideration before you obsessed on the international law. The ratio of complex and interesting cases to boring and repeatitive cases is smaller for international law than for others.</blockquote>
Ok,first,I am not so much into getting into the diplomatic corps.Not my thing.Second,I am not goint to GT,but I think highly of this university.I am not currently in the process of choosing,I have chosen where I am going to.
As for choosing,I honestly think that it is hard to find an objective standard,everyone has their own and thats the greatness of being different than eachother.
Also,there is no issue of being obsessed with international law.I am not obsessed with anything,I just like it very much and I recognize the actual fact that there is a market-big or small-that employs the people that are in it,with one way or the other.Therefore I can combine my interest with possible professional plans.
As for the legal world as such,it is a very encouraging fact that one only has to make short-term plans in the first place for their lives.This is actually nine months we are talking about,so I am taking one step at the time,and see what works.I am quite ok with myself knowing what I like and what I do not like right now,but I am also very open to changing if I like something better or something works for me.I think this applies to most people.So,it is international law for the following year,and maybe the year after that,and then,I ll take it from there and see.There is a poem I like that says "If life was a straight line,we would only chase it,but fate wants it the other way,it is you that has to turn every now and then".I guess this also applies to me,I do not think there is one great big truth,that I am the only one privileged to be aware of it, a straight line that one follows.It is an ongoing process,each one tries to find their own truth,and make their own turns.
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Posted Apr 26, 2005 02:28
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HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE ALREADY DECIDED TO GO TO GEORGETOWN ???
I STILL CAN NOT DECIDE BETWEEN GULC; NYU; CORNELL AND BOSTON UNIV.
HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE ALREADY DECIDED TO GO TO GEORGETOWN ???
I STILL CAN NOT DECIDE BETWEEN GULC; NYU; CORNELL AND BOSTON UNIV.
I STILL CAN NOT DECIDE BETWEEN GULC; NYU; CORNELL AND BOSTON UNIV.
Posted Apr 26, 2005 06:07
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Walomar, I am currently finishing an LL.M in Securities and financial reg. at Gtown.
Given my own experience of the place, and based on the experience of my friends who are currently studying in the institutions you mentioned and others, I would say:
GTOWN is terrific, as it gave me the chance to study with great professors, but also with great practitioners, SEC people and former high-flyers in the Clinton administration. The connection you get to make here are beyond those you will be able to make say at Cornell and Boston U., arguably even at NYU.
The only real difference between Cornell, NYU and Gtown, is that if you are determined to find a job in New York in a law firm, statistically, it is easier for the NYU people over the Gtown ones, although most of them are only hired for a year.
There are less Gtown LLMs securing jobs in the Big Apple than NYU ones, however, the ones who secured jobs in DC have done so with big law firms in trade, and consultancy work. a couple with the WB. A plus for Gtown is that you get a chance to do an externship with the WB, the IABD, the SEC, the CFTC and other organization.
Hope this helps.
Good luck.
Walomar, I am currently finishing an LL.M in Securities and financial reg. at Gtown.
Given my own experience of the place, and based on the experience of my friends who are currently studying in the institutions you mentioned and others, I would say:
GTOWN is terrific, as it gave me the chance to study with great professors, but also with great practitioners, SEC people and former high-flyers in the Clinton administration. The connection you get to make here are beyond those you will be able to make say at Cornell and Boston U., arguably even at NYU.
The only real difference between Cornell, NYU and Gtown, is that if you are determined to find a job in New York in a law firm, statistically, it is easier for the NYU people over the Gtown ones, although most of them are only hired for a year.
There are less Gtown LLMs securing jobs in the Big Apple than NYU ones, however, the ones who secured jobs in DC have done so with big law firms in trade, and consultancy work. a couple with the WB. A plus for Gtown is that you get a chance to do an externship with the WB, the IABD, the SEC, the CFTC and other organization.
Hope this helps.
Good luck.
Given my own experience of the place, and based on the experience of my friends who are currently studying in the institutions you mentioned and others, I would say:
GTOWN is terrific, as it gave me the chance to study with great professors, but also with great practitioners, SEC people and former high-flyers in the Clinton administration. The connection you get to make here are beyond those you will be able to make say at Cornell and Boston U., arguably even at NYU.
The only real difference between Cornell, NYU and Gtown, is that if you are determined to find a job in New York in a law firm, statistically, it is easier for the NYU people over the Gtown ones, although most of them are only hired for a year.
There are less Gtown LLMs securing jobs in the Big Apple than NYU ones, however, the ones who secured jobs in DC have done so with big law firms in trade, and consultancy work. a couple with the WB. A plus for Gtown is that you get a chance to do an externship with the WB, the IABD, the SEC, the CFTC and other organization.
Hope this helps.
Good luck.
Posted Apr 28, 2005 01:57
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What is the best route in International law to take to get on with the big firms? I graduated from a 4th tier U.S. law school. I am now admitted to an llm program at Georgetown. Is there a demand at the firms for this type of degree. If so, would it be best to specialize in comarative, trade, finance, litigation?
What is the best route in International law to take to get on with the big firms? I graduated from a 4th tier U.S. law school. I am now admitted to an llm program at Georgetown. Is there a demand at the firms for this type of degree. If so, would it be best to specialize in comarative, trade, finance, litigation?
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