which is better for the LLM??
UCL or KCL
Posted Jun 22, 2008 20:29
Posted Jun 30, 2008 13:38
Hi,
Which one you prefer?
Which one you prefer?
Posted Jul 01, 2008 16:01
ucl ofcourse has a higher ranking..
but im pretty surprised nottingham, edinburgh and arbeeden is ranked so high!
but im pretty surprised nottingham, edinburgh and arbeeden is ranked so high!
Posted Jul 01, 2008 18:44
According to TIme 2009 Law, King's is higher than UCL in Law.
http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/tol_gug/gooduniversityguide.php?AC_sub=Law&sub=38&x=35&y=5
http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/tol_gug/gooduniversityguide.php?AC_sub=Law&sub=38&x=35&y=5
Posted Jul 02, 2008 05:06
well i guess then the rankings differ all the time...
ucl acts more pricy though even regarding the criteria of meeting the ielts score of 7.5 i got 7.0 both times and they havent considered it...
but if i had to choose i would still go for ucl...
ucl acts more pricy though even regarding the criteria of meeting the ielts score of 7.5 i got 7.0 both times and they havent considered it...
but if i had to choose i would still go for ucl...
Posted Jul 02, 2008 09:53
indeed, Nevertheless, according to the two rankings provided by theGuardian and Time, KCL seems to be better than UCL. Am so confused.
However, do you know whether it is still possible to take one or two courses in an other college than the one you choose.?
However, do you know whether it is still possible to take one or two courses in an other college than the one you choose.?
Posted Jul 02, 2008 10:36
It may depend on your specialisation, but I am not familar with the modules KCL offers.
But in general, I think it is quite well established that the top universities are OxBridge, then UCL & LSE.
The rankings differ greatly due to the different factors that are taken into account, the weight they are given, and also the different methods employed. Sometimes they may be able to provide some guidance, but I would say all the rankings are questionable at best. I have yet to see a post with the question "Oxford or Aberdeen" for a general BCL/LLM.
Adhémar, some universities accept visiting students. You can have a look on their websites.
But in general, I think it is quite well established that the top universities are OxBridge, then UCL & LSE.
The rankings differ greatly due to the different factors that are taken into account, the weight they are given, and also the different methods employed. Sometimes they may be able to provide some guidance, but I would say all the rankings are questionable at best. I have yet to see a post with the question "Oxford or Aberdeen" for a general BCL/LLM.
Adhémar, some universities accept visiting students. You can have a look on their websites.
Posted Jul 02, 2008 12:42
I think that you can rely on ranking only with respect to Oxbridge. Their ranks never change (well, almost).
When I had to decide between UCL and KCL in February, all ranking stood on proority of UCL. 4 months have pasted and the rankings have changed. So what now, do I have to make other choice?.. I think not.
You will never know what's best, untic you look though the list of offerd courses and professors. I think that for my area, Banking and Finance, UCL is better than KCL. Then you should consider such points as accomodation, tutorial fees etc.
Good luck for you on your choice.
When I had to decide between UCL and KCL in February, all ranking stood on proority of UCL. 4 months have pasted and the rankings have changed. So what now, do I have to make other choice?.. I think not.
You will never know what's best, untic you look though the list of offerd courses and professors. I think that for my area, Banking and Finance, UCL is better than KCL. Then you should consider such points as accomodation, tutorial fees etc.
Good luck for you on your choice.
Posted Jul 02, 2008 14:07
Thank you!!
Am accepted at UCL and Kings for a LLM.
Therefore, i indeed must have a look on the lists of the subjects and Professors
Am accepted at UCL and Kings for a LLM.
Therefore, i indeed must have a look on the lists of the subjects and Professors
Posted Jul 02, 2008 14:35
Adhemar,
please note to one more important point - english language requirements. UCL requires 7.5 on IELTS test and KCL requires only 7.0. Sometimes these 0.5 points are very hard to get.
Regards,
Maria
please note to one more important point - english language requirements. UCL requires 7.5 on IELTS test and KCL requires only 7.0. Sometimes these 0.5 points are very hard to get.
Regards,
Maria
Posted Jul 03, 2008 14:40
Indeed!
Nevertheless, is it still possible de take one or two courses in an other Uni (UCL,QM, KCL, SOAS) than the one you chose?
Nevertheless, is it still possible de take one or two courses in an other Uni (UCL,QM, KCL, SOAS) than the one you chose?
Posted Jul 03, 2008 15:16
Adhemar,
No, it is not possible. From 2008 intercollege llm programme was cancelled. You are now limited only to the courses of your own university.
No, it is not possible. From 2008 intercollege llm programme was cancelled. You are now limited only to the courses of your own university.
Posted Jul 03, 2008 22:24
Hi there,
I accepted an unconditional offer from KCL but I am wondering if it could be possible to withdraw it later without being commited to pay the fees ?
Help would be much appreciated since I am quite confused with that !
I accepted an unconditional offer from KCL but I am wondering if it could be possible to withdraw it later without being commited to pay the fees ?
Help would be much appreciated since I am quite confused with that !
Posted Jul 04, 2008 12:33
Ben_Tlse,
you ask here for an answer for a very important qustion, which in fact will have effect on YOUR money. I can say that "once upon a time a friend of my friend accepted KCL offer and then went to UCl (without any penalties from KCL's side)". And would you believe me?..
For every such question, which is not theoretical and would have effect on you, my advise is to contact KCL directly.
You do not have to say that you are waiting for a better offer, just explain them that you might not have an ability to attend you classes due to some personal matters and there is an option you may decline their offer in September.
I am sure, they will answer and such answer will be an official position.
Regards,
Maria
you ask here for an answer for a very important qustion, which in fact will have effect on YOUR money. I can say that "once upon a time a friend of my friend accepted KCL offer and then went to UCl (without any penalties from KCL's side)". And would you believe me?..
For every such question, which is not theoretical and would have effect on you, my advise is to contact KCL directly.
You do not have to say that you are waiting for a better offer, just explain them that you might not have an ability to attend you classes due to some personal matters and there is an option you may decline their offer in September.
I am sure, they will answer and such answer will be an official position.
Regards,
Maria
Posted Jul 04, 2008 19:21
hi people..
Please some one clarify whats with the rankings.. I accepted the UCL offer basing my decision on the ranking.. now they are saying KCL is better.. What am i to do now?? I am confused...!!!!
Thanks
Abhinav
Please some one clarify whats with the rankings.. I accepted the UCL offer basing my decision on the ranking.. now they are saying KCL is better.. What am i to do now?? I am confused...!!!!
Thanks
Abhinav
Posted Jul 06, 2008 22:17
Well relying on rankings to determine which university you choose is pretty silly...as they go up and down (sorry if I sound patronising). For some reason, lots of people on here seem absolutely obsessed with the ranking that are to a certain extent subjectively produced by UK newspapers.
Both UCL and KCL are great universities, and leading universities of the University of London. You won't go wrong choosing either. So put ranking concerns to one side, and pick the one that is best suited to the LLM courses you are choosing. Eg. for legal theory go to UCL, for competition law go to KCL etc.
Both UCL and KCL are great universities, and leading universities of the University of London. You won't go wrong choosing either. So put ranking concerns to one side, and pick the one that is best suited to the LLM courses you are choosing. Eg. for legal theory go to UCL, for competition law go to KCL etc.
Posted Jul 06, 2008 23:16
"It may depend on your specialisation, but I am not familar with the modules KCL offers.
But in general, I think it is quite well established that the top universities are OxBridge, then UCL & LSE."
UCL and LSE are not necessarily any better than KCL. All form part of the 'golden triangle' (if we are to take any notice of that category). Depending on the specialisation of the LLM, SOAS or QMUL (CCLS) are also contenders.
But in general, I think it is quite well established that the top universities are OxBridge, then UCL & LSE."
UCL and LSE are not necessarily any better than KCL. All form part of the 'golden triangle' (if we are to take any notice of that category). Depending on the specialisation of the LLM, SOAS or QMUL (CCLS) are also contenders.
Posted Jul 07, 2008 09:49
Thanks cowboyblues,
well it seems you are right. Which univ do u think is best for Corporate, banking, Commercial?
Thanks..
abhinav
well it seems you are right. Which univ do u think is best for Corporate, banking, Commercial?
Thanks..
abhinav
Posted Jul 08, 2008 13:29
join da gang than ucl is acting like such an ass cos of 7.0 in ielts i got a call from kcl but m still tryin for ucl n thy r goin insane over a .5.wonder what differnce a point 5 will make in my english language.........
ucl acts more pricy though even regarding the criteria of meeting the ielts score of 7.5 i got 7.0 both times and they havent considered it...
but if i had to choose i would still go for ucl...
ucl acts more pricy though even regarding the criteria of meeting the ielts score of 7.5 i got 7.0 both times and they havent considered it...
but if i had to choose i would still go for ucl...</blockquote>
Posted Jul 08, 2008 21:22
guys.. i have seen many people talking about ielts and there problems in getting 7.5.. is it so hard?? i gave toefl it was fairly easy. i got 112 in the ibit test.. why don't u guys also give it a try.. i think toefl is easier..
best of luck..
abhinav
best of luck..
abhinav
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