The Definitive 2011 Cambridge Thread


It does sound like a system error.. You should call there and see what is going on..

Actually, let me ask you guys something.. The documents to meet my conditions were received over three weeks ago and since then there is this message in my academic condition:

Thank you for sending details of your academic result. Your prospective Department/Faculty is considering whether it is sufficient to meet the academic condition of your offer.

I think its taking too long for the faculty to decide if it is sufficient or not.. Is this normal? Has this also happened to those who received non-standard academic conditions like me?

It does sound like a system error.. You should call there and see what is going on..

Actually, let me ask you guys something.. The documents to meet my conditions were received over three weeks ago and since then there is this message in my academic condition:

“Thank you for sending details of your academic result. Your prospective Department/Faculty is considering whether it is sufficient to meet the academic condition of your offer.”

I think it’s taking too long for the faculty to decide if it is sufficient or not.. Is this normal? Has this also happened to those who received non-standard academic conditions like me?
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Good Gosh

everyone at faculty is busy with exams and marking these days, don't hold your breath for quick admin decisions guys. term ends on 24/6, and i imagine things will speed up after then..

everyone at faculty is busy with exams and marking these days, don't hold your breath for quick admin decisions guys. term ends on 24/6, and i imagine things will speed up after then..
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Good Gosh, I see that you are well informed on how Cam works, so Im going to take advantage of that :)
As far as I understand, it is the Faculty of Law that sets the conditions and, upon receiving the documents, decides whether it is sufficient to meet the conditions. What I would like to ask you is: will this same committee be working during July and August?
I have a non-standard academic condition and my academic result will be some 0,05 lower than my condition. If it is sent during July, do you think that they will respond with the same efficiency as in the spring months or will I have to wait untill September for a decision?
Ugh..sorry for the lengthy question, I should've simply pm'd you :)
thanx!

Good Gosh, I see that you are well informed on how Cam works, so Im going to take advantage of that :)
As far as I understand, it is the Faculty of Law that sets the conditions and, upon receiving the documents, decides whether it is sufficient to meet the conditions. What I would like to ask you is: will this same committee be working during July and August?
I have a non-standard academic condition and my academic result will be some 0,05 lower than my condition. If it is sent during July, do you think that they will respond with the same efficiency as in the spring months or will I have to wait untill September for a decision?
Ugh..sorry for the lengthy question, I should've simply pm'd you :)
thanx!
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Good Gosh

am not 100% sure but as with everything i guess the earlier the better. just send in your documents and hope for the best. i do know that everyone will have a lot more time to deal with queries/requests in july and august than in may and june.

good luck!

am not 100% sure but as with everything i guess the earlier the better. just send in your documents and hope for the best. i do know that everyone will have a lot more time to deal with queries/requests in july and august than in may and june.

good luck!
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flowergirl

I have a question- for those of you who has passed ielt before applying, does your self service page still have language condition? I am trying to determine whether that is the general condition or not? I remain confused about whether or not I have to re-send ielt score via post to meet the condition.

I have a question- for those of you who has passed ielt before applying, does your self service page still have language condition? I am trying to determine whether that is the general condition or not? I remain confused about whether or not I have to re-send ielt score via post to meet the condition.
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Dionne7*

Hey guys, I visited Cambridge yesterday and looked around the Law Faculty and Gonville and Caius College. The scenary & atmosphere there is just breath taking! I was made to feel really welcome as I am sure all of you will. If u get a chance to visit before you arrive in September I would definitely do it, especially if u have to make the choice between Oxford and Cambridge as I did. If anyone has any questions for me I would be happy to answer them if I can :)

Hey guys, I visited Cambridge yesterday and looked around the Law Faculty and Gonville and Caius College. The scenary & atmosphere there is just breath taking! I was made to feel really welcome as I am sure all of you will. If u get a chance to visit before you arrive in September I would definitely do it, especially if u have to make the choice between Oxford and Cambridge as I did. If anyone has any questions for me I would be happy to answer them if I can :)
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krof

I have a question- for those of you who has passed ielt before applying, does your self service page still have language condition? I am trying to determine whether that is the general condition or not? I remain confused about whether or not I have to re-send ielt score via post to meet the condition.


I submitted the test results with my application and my camsis status still lists the English language test among the conditions. I wrote to Ms Wade who confirmed that my test was fine for them, but still the condition is there.

<blockquote>I have a question- for those of you who has passed ielt before applying, does your self service page still have language condition? I am trying to determine whether that is the general condition or not? I remain confused about whether or not I have to re-send ielt score via post to meet the condition. </blockquote>

I submitted the test results with my application and my camsis status still lists the English language test among the conditions. I wrote to Ms Wade who confirmed that my test was fine for them, but still the condition is there.

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I have been going through last years' threads trying to find someone who had my problem (the academic condition problem, that is) but I can't seem to find anything on the subject.
If we exclude administrative mistakes and impossible averages (e.g. they ask for 10.5 whereas the maximum in your country is 10.00), what is your opinion on how strict Cam is regarding academic condition? Are they inclined to accept you if the average is only slightly lower, or is it out of the question?
Do they let you come if you (such as in my case) have 0,05 lower average?

Any opinions/experiences/information will be most welcome!

-semi desperate
Holly

I have been going through last years' threads trying to find someone who had my problem (the academic condition problem, that is) but I can't seem to find anything on the subject.
If we exclude administrative mistakes and impossible averages (e.g. they ask for 10.5 whereas the maximum in your country is 10.00), what is your opinion on how strict Cam is regarding academic condition? Are they inclined to accept you if the average is only slightly lower, or is it out of the question?
Do they let you come if you (such as in my case) have 0,05 lower average?

Any opinions/experiences/information will be most welcome!

-semi desperate
Holly
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AlinaSV

Hi Holly_Golightly!:)

I don't know whether it would be helpful for you, but last year I had the same problem but with IELTS and I was going to Oxford: my IELTS was 7,0 and I was told that they will accept only 7,5. So I had to pass it 4 times... Though, I think that in some exceptional cases especially with academic conditions (which are harder to repass) they will still accept you! Did you write about all this things to administration? They are the only who will give you the right answer and advice:)

I have been going through last years' threads trying to find someone who had my problem (the academic condition problem, that is) but I can't seem to find anything on the subject.
If we exclude administrative mistakes and impossible averages (e.g. they ask for 10.5 whereas the maximum in your country is 10.00), what is your opinion on how strict Cam is regarding academic condition? Are they inclined to accept you if the average is only slightly lower, or is it out of the question?
Do they let you come if you (such as in my case) have 0,05 lower average?

Any opinions/experiences/information will be most welcome!

-semi desperate
Holly

Hi Holly_Golightly!:)

I don't know whether it would be helpful for you, but last year I had the same problem but with IELTS and I was going to Oxford: my IELTS was 7,0 and I was told that they will accept only 7,5. So I had to pass it 4 times... Though, I think that in some exceptional cases especially with academic conditions (which are harder to repass) they will still accept you! Did you write about all this things to administration? They are the only who will give you the right answer and advice:)

<blockquote>I have been going through last years' threads trying to find someone who had my problem (the academic condition problem, that is) but I can't seem to find anything on the subject.
If we exclude administrative mistakes and impossible averages (e.g. they ask for 10.5 whereas the maximum in your country is 10.00), what is your opinion on how strict Cam is regarding academic condition? Are they inclined to accept you if the average is only slightly lower, or is it out of the question?
Do they let you come if you (such as in my case) have 0,05 lower average?

Any opinions/experiences/information will be most welcome!

-semi desperate
Holly</blockquote>
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Hey AlinaSV :)

thanx for your reply! I wrote to Miss Wade, she is the LLM administrator.. I don't know whether I should've written to the BoGS instead. Maybe they are more competent..I really dont know

Hey AlinaSV :)

thanx for your reply! I wrote to Miss Wade, she is the LLM administrator.. I don't know whether I should've written to the BoGS instead. Maybe they are more competent..I really dont know
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Hello Holly_Golightly,

I am in a similar situation... Please let me know if anyone replied to you. I would write to them as well, but I am not sure if the BoGS are the right people to talk to or if I should just ask Miss Wade. Any idea?

Hey AlinaSV :)

thanx for your reply! I wrote to Miss Wade, she is the LLM administrator.. I don't know whether I should've written to the BoGS instead. Maybe they are more competent..I really dont know

Hello Holly_Golightly,

I am in a similar situation... Please let me know if anyone replied to you. I would write to them as well, but I am not sure if the BoGS are the right people to talk to or if I should just ask Miss Wade. Any idea?

<blockquote>Hey AlinaSV :)

thanx for your reply! I wrote to Miss Wade, she is the LLM administrator.. I don't know whether I should've written to the BoGS instead. Maybe they are more competent..I really dont know</blockquote>
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Hey guys,

I am also in this situation, but I have read somewhere (I've been trying to find where it was, but hasn't succeeded yet!) that the University usually accepts academic results that are just a little lower than the condition they stated (such as 4,4, when you're required 4,5).. This has given me a little peace of mind for the past weeks, while I wait for my results to be analysed!

Hello Holly_Golightly,

I am in a similar situation... Please let me know if anyone replied to you. I would write to them as well, but I am not sure if the BoGS are the right people to talk to or if I should just ask Miss Wade. Any idea?

Hey AlinaSV :)

thanx for your reply! I wrote to Miss Wade, she is the LLM administrator.. I don't know whether I should've written to the BoGS instead. Maybe they are more competent..I really dont know

Hey guys,

I am also in this situation, but I have read somewhere (I've been trying to find where it was, but hasn't succeeded yet!) that the University usually accepts academic results that are just a little lower than the condition they stated (such as 4,4, when you're required 4,5).. This has given me a little peace of mind for the past weeks, while I wait for my results to be analysed!

<blockquote>Hello Holly_Golightly,

I am in a similar situation... Please let me know if anyone replied to you. I would write to them as well, but I am not sure if the BoGS are the right people to talk to or if I should just ask Miss Wade. Any idea?

<blockquote>Hey AlinaSV :)

thanx for your reply! I wrote to Miss Wade, she is the LLM administrator.. I don't know whether I should've written to the BoGS instead. Maybe they are more competent..I really dont know</blockquote></blockquote>
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Hey LLM in England!

I had the exact same post in mind and I just found it on this thread! I pm'd the person asking how they heard of this. Still havent heard back though.

I wonder if it is the general practice (e.g. they accept these slightly lower results every year) or whether instead it is just a hopeful thought of the person who wrote it.

Sigh...

Hey LLM in England!

I had the exact same post in mind and I just found it on this thread! I pm'd the person asking how they heard of this. Still havent heard back though.

I wonder if it is the general practice (e.g. they accept these slightly lower results every year) or whether instead it is just a hopeful thought of the person who wrote it.

Sigh...
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Lets hope it is not just wishful thinking! Lol!

If it makes you feel any better, I have read this in one of Cambridges booklets! So, I think its the general practice!!

I will keep on searching where on earth Ive read this!


Hey LLM in England!

I had the exact same post in mind and I just found it on this thread! I pm'd the person asking how they heard of this. Still havent heard back though.

I wonder if it is the general practice (e.g. they accept these slightly lower results every year) or whether instead it is just a hopeful thought of the person who wrote it.

Sigh...

Let’s hope it is not just wishful thinking! Lol!

If it makes you feel any better, I have read this in one of Cambridge’s booklets! So, I think it’s the general practice!!

I will keep on searching where on earth I’ve read this!


<blockquote>Hey LLM in England!

I had the exact same post in mind and I just found it on this thread! I pm'd the person asking how they heard of this. Still havent heard back though.

I wonder if it is the general practice (e.g. they accept these slightly lower results every year) or whether instead it is just a hopeful thought of the person who wrote it.

Sigh...</blockquote>
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Good Gosh

final details of next year's courses have been released:

http://www.admin.cam.ac.uk/reporter/2010-11/weekly/6227/section7.shtml#heading2-17

final details of next year's courses have been released:

http://www.admin.cam.ac.uk/reporter/2010-11/weekly/6227/section7.shtml#heading2-17
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Good Gosh

in case you can't access the page, here are the details:


LL.M. Examination, 2012: Notice of prescribed subjects and forms of examination
The Faculty Board of Law give notice that they have prescribed the following papers and forms of examination for the LL.M. Examination, 2012 (LL.M. Regulations 1 and 2, Statutes and Ordinances, p. 461):

No
Paper title
Form of examination

3
International commercial litigation
3

4
Law of restitution
t

7
Corporate insolvency law
3

9
Corporate finance law
t

10
Corporate governance
t

11
Criminal justice players and processes
es, t

12
Intellectual property
es, t

13
Contemporary issues in the law of European integration
t

14
Competition law
3

15
International environmental law
3

16
Constitutional law of the European Union
t

17
EU trade law
3

18
External relations law of the European Union
t

23
The law of the World Trade Organization
t

25
International human rights law
t

26
Civil liberties and human rights
es

30
Jurisprudence
3

32
Commercial equity
t

33
Comparative family law and policy
t

34
Philosophy of criminal law
t

35
History of English civil and criminal law
t

36
International intellectual property law
es, t

38
Seminar paper


Explanation of forms of examination
1. A candidate may take a written paper of three hours duration in all the subjects listed above, other than Paper 38.
2. Paper 38: Seminar paper. Paper 38 shall be examined by the submission of a thesis which shall not, without the leave of the Faculty Board, exceed 18,000 words including footnotes and appendices, but excluding bibliography, on a topic approved by the Faculty Board which falls within the scope of one of the following seminar courses prescribed for 201112:
(a)Comparative law
(b)European social rights and economic integration
(c)Public law.
3. es indicates a subject in which a candidate has a free choice between:
(a)a written paper of three hours duration; and
(b)a written paper of two hours duration together with the submission of an essay of not more than 7,000 words, including footnotes and appendices but excluding bibliography, on a topic approved by the Faculty Board which falls within the field of the subject.
4. t indicates a subject in which a candidate may submit a thesis in lieu of a final examination. The thesis shall not, without the leave of the Faculty Board, exceed 18,000 words including footnotes and appendices, but excluding bibliography. It shall be on a topic approved by the Faculty Board falling within the field of the subject.
5. 3 indicates a subject in which a three-hour final examination is required, the candidate having no option of substituting a thesis or a two-hour examination and an essay.
6. In 201112 there are no subjects which may be examined only in the form of a written paper of two hours duration together with the submission of an essay of not more than 7,000 words, including footnotes and appendices but excluding bibliography, on a topic approved by the Faculty Board which falls within the field of the subject.
LL.M. Examination, 2012: Notice of designated papers
The Faculty Board of Law give notice that they have designated the following papers prescribed for the LL.M. Examination, 2012, as falling within the fields of Commercial law (c), European law (e), or International law (i) (LL.M. Regulation 1, Statutes and Ordinances, p. 461):

No
Paper title
Designation

3
International commercial litigation
c, e

4
Law of restitution
c

7
Corporate insolvency law
c

9
Corporate finance law
c

10
Corporate governance
c

11
Criminal justice players and processes


12
Intellectual property
c, e

13
Contemporary issues in the law of European integration


14
Competition law
c, e

15
International environmental law
i

16
Constitutional law of the European Union
e

17
EU trade law
e

18
External relations law of the European Union
e

23
The law of the World Trade Organization
i

25
International human rights law
i

26
Civil liberties and human rights


30
Jurisprudence


32
Commercial equity
c

33
Comparative family law and policy


34
Philosophy of criminal law


35
History of English civil and criminal law


36
International intellectual property law
c, e, i

38
Seminar paper

in case you can't access the page, here are the details:


LL.M. Examination, 2012: Notice of prescribed subjects and forms of examination
The Faculty Board of Law give notice that they have prescribed the following papers and forms of examination for the LL.M. Examination, 2012 (LL.M. Regulations 1 and 2, Statutes and Ordinances, p. 461):

No
Paper title
Form of examination

3
International commercial litigation
3

4
Law of restitution
t

7
Corporate insolvency law
3

9
Corporate finance law
t

10
Corporate governance
t

11
Criminal justice – players and processes
es, t

12
Intellectual property
es, t

13
Contemporary issues in the law of European integration
t

14
Competition law
3

15
International environmental law
3

16
Constitutional law of the European Union
t

17
EU trade law
3

18
External relations law of the European Union
t

23
The law of the World Trade Organization
t

25
International human rights law
t

26
Civil liberties and human rights
es

30
Jurisprudence
3

32
Commercial equity
t

33
Comparative family law and policy
t

34
Philosophy of criminal law
t

35
History of English civil and criminal law
t

36
International intellectual property law
es, t

38
Seminar paper


Explanation of forms of examination
1. A candidate may take a written paper of three hours’ duration in all the subjects listed above, other than Paper 38.
2. Paper 38: Seminar paper. Paper 38 shall be examined by the submission of a thesis which shall not, without the leave of the Faculty Board, exceed 18,000 words including footnotes and appendices, but excluding bibliography, on a topic approved by the Faculty Board which falls within the scope of one of the following seminar courses prescribed for 2011–12:
(a)Comparative law
(b)European social rights and economic integration
(c)Public law.
3. ‘es’ indicates a subject in which a candidate has a free choice between:
(a)a written paper of three hours’ duration; and
(b)a written paper of two hours’ duration together with the submission of an essay of not more than 7,000 words, including footnotes and appendices but excluding bibliography, on a topic approved by the Faculty Board which falls within the field of the subject.
4. ‘t’ indicates a subject in which a candidate may submit a thesis in lieu of a final examination. The thesis shall not, without the leave of the Faculty Board, exceed 18,000 words including footnotes and appendices, but excluding bibliography. It shall be on a topic approved by the Faculty Board falling within the field of the subject.
5. ‘3’ indicates a subject in which a three-hour final examination is required, the candidate having no option of substituting a thesis or a two-hour examination and an essay.
6. In 2011–12 there are no subjects which may be examined only in the form of a written paper of two hours’ duration together with the submission of an essay of not more than 7,000 words, including footnotes and appendices but excluding bibliography, on a topic approved by the Faculty Board which falls within the field of the subject.
LL.M. Examination, 2012: Notice of designated papers
The Faculty Board of Law give notice that they have designated the following papers prescribed for the LL.M. Examination, 2012, as falling within the fields of Commercial law (c), European law (e), or International law (i) (LL.M. Regulation 1, Statutes and Ordinances, p. 461):

No
Paper title
Designation

3
International commercial litigation
c, e

4
Law of restitution
c

7
Corporate insolvency law
c

9
Corporate finance law
c

10
Corporate governance
c

11
Criminal justice – players and processes


12
Intellectual property
c, e

13
Contemporary issues in the law of European integration


14
Competition law
c, e

15
International environmental law
i

16
Constitutional law of the European Union
e

17
EU trade law
e

18
External relations law of the European Union
e

23
The law of the World Trade Organization
i

25
International human rights law
i

26
Civil liberties and human rights


30
Jurisprudence


32
Commercial equity
c

33
Comparative family law and policy


34
Philosophy of criminal law


35
History of English civil and criminal law


36
International intellectual property law
c, e, i

38
Seminar paper
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noahadamb

What happened to 'Settlement of International Disputes'? Is the Faculty really only offering four international law courses?? That would be quite disappointing. If anyone can fill us in on whether Prof. Crawford will be teaching an LL.M. course next year, that would be helpful.

What happened to 'Settlement of International Disputes'? Is the Faculty really only offering four international law courses?? That would be quite disappointing. If anyone can fill us in on whether Prof. Crawford will be teaching an LL.M. course next year, that would be helpful.
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OK_Compute...

Who's teaching the legal history course?

Who's teaching the legal history course?
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Good Gosh

dunno who's teaching legal history. lots of the international courses won't run as douglas is away on sabbatical in switzerland i hear, mills is moving to UCL, and o'keefe is also on sabbatical, so they're short staffed. professors crawford and gray will still be around i believe..

dunno who's teaching legal history. lots of the international courses won't run as douglas is away on sabbatical in switzerland i hear, mills is moving to UCL, and o'keefe is also on sabbatical, so they're short staffed. professors crawford and gray will still be around i believe..
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Dominium

I ve been trying to contact Ms Wade for a week or so, I ve sent emails and I ve been calling everyday, but noone really answered! Does anyone have any idea what's happening? Is there any alternate addresses or tel. numbers?

I ve been trying to contact Ms Wade for a week or so, I ve sent emails and I ve been calling everyday, but noone really answered! Does anyone have any idea what's happening? Is there any alternate addresses or tel. numbers?
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