Oxford BCL and Cambridge LLM Applicants 2009


HRoark

The faculty scholarships at Oxford will be announced at the end of the month.

The faculty scholarships at Oxford will be announced at the end of the month.
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does the fact that the Camsis wasn't updated and no email was received till april 15 means that one's application is rejected?

or will the camsis be updated in any case, no matter whether it's an offer or a rejection?


I have the exact same question. any ideas?

<blockquote>does the fact that the Camsis wasn't updated and no email was received till april 15 means that one's application is rejected?

or will the camsis be updated in any case, no matter whether it's an offer or a rejection?</blockquote>

I have the exact same question. any ideas?
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OffIGo

Hi All,

If it helps anyone, here are a few situations from Australian applicants that I know of:

I applied for Oxford and Cambridge.
Cambridge came through with an offer by email on 18 Feb. Suzanne Wade said a month later that the paperwork would take "several weeks" to be sent by the Board of Graduate Stduies. I understand that the Law Faculty decides who they want, they send out email offers and then forward your details to the Board of Graduate Studies to send the paperwork out. Today I still have not received the papers.

My CamSis page has been updated. But I think that would have occurred only in the last week or two.

I have also heard nothing about Cambridge Scholarships.

I also received an offer for Oxford on 26 March.
I received an offer from my first choice college, Balliol, on 4 April.
I have not heard anything about scholarships (any of them). Clarendon has already been given out so I luck out there.

I have a friend that has received an email offer from Oxford. But has not received an offer from either of his two choices of colleges. He picked Balliol first and Magdelen second.

I have another friend who has not been made an offer from Oxford (a tragedy because he is brilliant). BUT Cambridge told him he will know about his application in the next two weeks. They originally said he would know by 15 April and then they revised that just recently to 'the next two weeks'.

If you have not heard from Cambridge, do not dispair. They are still considering offers.

If you ask Oxford, they could probably tell you now.

Hi All,

If it helps anyone, here are a few situations from Australian applicants that I know of:

I applied for Oxford and Cambridge.
Cambridge came through with an offer by email on 18 Feb. Suzanne Wade said a month later that the paperwork would take "several weeks" to be sent by the Board of Graduate Stduies. I understand that the Law Faculty decides who they want, they send out email offers and then forward your details to the Board of Graduate Studies to send the paperwork out. Today I still have not received the papers.

My CamSis page has been updated. But I think that would have occurred only in the last week or two.

I have also heard nothing about Cambridge Scholarships.

I also received an offer for Oxford on 26 March.
I received an offer from my first choice college, Balliol, on 4 April.
I have not heard anything about scholarships (any of them). Clarendon has already been given out so I luck out there.

I have a friend that has received an email offer from Oxford. But has not received an offer from either of his two choices of colleges. He picked Balliol first and Magdelen second.

I have another friend who has not been made an offer from Oxford (a tragedy because he is brilliant). BUT Cambridge told him he will know about his application in the next two weeks. They originally said he would know by 15 April and then they revised that just recently to 'the next two weeks'.

If you have not heard from Cambridge, do not dispair. They are still considering offers.

If you ask Oxford, they could probably tell you now.
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Hi OffIGo,

Thanks for the detailed post. I'm also waiting for Cambridge, but then i've got an offer from Oxford... and planning to go there. Though the offer came around the same time as yours, I haven't got any news about the college yet. Did you email them and ask? I'm a little anxious because i've heard acco becomes real difficult if the college allotment is late.

Hi OffIGo,

Thanks for the detailed post. I'm also waiting for Cambridge, but then i've got an offer from Oxford... and planning to go there. Though the offer came around the same time as yours, I haven't got any news about the college yet. Did you email them and ask? I'm a little anxious because i've heard acco becomes real difficult if the college allotment is late.
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OffIGo

Hi Hi

The Balliol offer came through without prompting by email from me. I've only sent one email to either Uni - to Cambridge to find out when I could expect the paperwork.

Balliol asked me to accept/reject within one month so that they could make offers to others if I reject.

That suggests to me that the next round of college offers for Oxford could be around 4 May?

Incidentally I have accepted Balliol.

Hi Hi

The Balliol offer came through without prompting by email from me. I've only sent one email to either Uni - to Cambridge to find out when I could expect the paperwork.

Balliol asked me to accept/reject within one month so that they could make offers to others if I reject.

That suggests to me that the next round of college offers for Oxford could be around 4 May?

Incidentally I have accepted Balliol.
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well i dont think that comes as a huge surprise, does it? i mean, Balliol is one of the most reputed colleges there (esp for the BCL). Just hope I get a good college too!
What about scholarships... apart from Clarendon, news from anywhere else? or has Balliol decided on its scholarships?

well i dont think that comes as a huge surprise, does it? i mean, Balliol is one of the most reputed colleges there (esp for the BCL). Just hope I get a good college too!
What about scholarships... apart from Clarendon, news from anywhere else? or has Balliol decided on its scholarships?
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OffIGo

Ahhh there's a subject that brings a tear to my eye - scholarships.

There's not many out there compared to those available for other disciplines or people doing PhD's. Presumably the world has enough lawyers...

Strangely enough I know of a couple of people that got scholarships but no offers. And people like me with offers but no scholarships. My father asked me which selection process was flawed (?). He has a strange sense of humour.

Oxford Australia is due out in May apparently. Not sure if you're Aussie...

Balliol College scholarships don't look like they have opened for the 2009/10 academic year. But I stand to be corrected? The situation could be the same for other colleges that have scholarships which are not Clarendon linked.

I'm currently doing creative begging rounds - old highschool, the firm, rich distant cousins of cousins... something about a recession??? sigh.

Ahhh there's a subject that brings a tear to my eye - scholarships.

There's not many out there compared to those available for other disciplines or people doing PhD's. Presumably the world has enough lawyers...

Strangely enough I know of a couple of people that got scholarships but no offers. And people like me with offers but no scholarships. My father asked me which selection process was flawed (?). He has a strange sense of humour.

Oxford Australia is due out in May apparently. Not sure if you're Aussie...

Balliol College scholarships don't look like they have opened for the 2009/10 academic year. But I stand to be corrected? The situation could be the same for other colleges that have scholarships which are not Clarendon linked.

I'm currently doing creative begging rounds - old highschool, the firm, rich distant cousins of cousins... something about a recession??? sigh.
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lol. It seems you've successfully inherited your sense of humour from your dad! :)

i'm Indian... and its painful to hear (even though you hopefully stand to be corrected) that Balliol might not open their scholarships for the year... particularly because my preferences (Balliol and Lincoln) were solely based on the aid the colleges provided to Indian/law students.

But then, i'm not too worried (thankfully) about the monetary aspect, because last week I got the Commonwealth Scholarship for Oxford. So currently all my prayers are focussed towards the college...

lol. It seems you've successfully inherited your sense of humour from your dad! :)

i'm Indian... and its painful to hear (even though you hopefully stand to be corrected) that Balliol might not open their scholarships for the year... particularly because my preferences (Balliol and Lincoln) were solely based on the aid the colleges provided to Indian/law students.

But then, i'm not too worried (thankfully) about the monetary aspect, because last week I got the Commonwealth Scholarship for Oxford. So currently all my prayers are focussed towards the college...
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OffIGo

Sorry - I may have given the wrong impression! I think the Balliol scholarships have not yet opened for 2009/10, not that I think they won't open. I suspect they'll confirm numbers at the college and then open the scholarships.

Grats on the Cth Scholarship! Australia's Cth Scholarship scheme was stopped last year by the British government. (sob) It was only reinstated for PhD applicants.

I'm sure you'll get your first choice college - and either way, hey, you're going to Oxford and you have some funding. Life could be a lot worse right? ;)

I know people here that go into debt for more than the cost of an Oxford degree just to buy a car. Going into debt to invest in yourself does not seem like such a bad thing in that context. Especially considering that you are unlikely to depreciate in value. :)))

Sorry - I may have given the wrong impression! I think the Balliol scholarships have not yet opened for 2009/10, not that I think they won't open. I suspect they'll confirm numbers at the college and then open the scholarships.

Grats on the Cth Scholarship! Australia's Cth Scholarship scheme was stopped last year by the British government. (sob) It was only reinstated for PhD applicants.

I'm sure you'll get your first choice college - and either way, hey, you're going to Oxford and you have some funding. Life could be a lot worse right? ;)

I know people here that go into debt for more than the cost of an Oxford degree just to buy a car. Going into debt to invest in yourself does not seem like such a bad thing in that context. Especially considering that you are unlikely to depreciate in value. :)))
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well put. definitely things could be a lot worse. quite unbelieveable to have gotten into Oxford, and ofcourse the schol. Pity that they stopped it for you guys... guess thats the advantage of being in a "developing" nation, rather than a "developed" one!
where are you from in Australia? follow cricket?

well put. definitely things could be a lot worse. quite unbelieveable to have gotten into Oxford, and ofcourse the schol. Pity that they stopped it for you guys... guess thats the advantage of being in a "developing" nation, rather than a "developed" one!
where are you from in Australia? follow cricket?
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OffIGo

We're still developing if you ask me. Loads of areas for improvement... Oh well. ;)

I'm in Sydney. Do follow cricket kinda. Kinda like I follow basketball and rugby union. Although I am quite partial to a beer on the couch in summer watching Simmons hammer out 6's.

We're still developing if you ask me. Loads of areas for improvement... Oh well. ;)

I'm in Sydney. Do follow cricket kinda. Kinda like I follow basketball and rugby union. Although I am quite partial to a beer on the couch in summer watching Simmons hammer out 6's.
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FISH_CC


I have another friend who has not been made an offer from Oxford (a tragedy because he is brilliant). BUT Cambridge told him he will know about his application in the next two weeks. They originally said he would know by 15 April and then they revised that just recently to 'the next two weeks'.

If you have not heard from Cambridge, do not dispair. They are still considering offers.
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Yeah, thanks OffiGo. Good news that Cambridge offers have not been finalised yet.

THE MAYBE GROUP
I guess that there are many of us placed by Cambridge into the 'maybe' group-meaning-haven't received email offers in Feb/March nor rejections as a result of their first application review stage, where the applications that clearly do not meet academic requirements were rejected. What I think has been happening for some time now (since the beginning of March) is that the candidates in the 'maybe' group are being placed against each other and offers are gradually being made as evidenced by the information on their website.

I was contacted by Ms Wade in late February to send some additional documentation which I sent to her in March. I was also advised that my application is 'currently' being considered-(February). Presumably, there were more of you in the same boat, and they just wanted to have full information on all of us in order to rank us against each other within the maybe group.

I do think that many offers to the best applicants in the maybe group have already been made, presumably starting in March. And it would seem unlikely that very many offers are still to be made this late, although it is great to hear that apparently some email offers are still to come.

MORE APPLICATIONS THIS YEAR
On the other hand, my friend who also applied to Oxford (M.Jur) told me that they had 33% more applications than in the previous years. If the same applies to Cambridge, there may well be some offers to be made, although no one (apart from Cambridge) knows how many.

ANY OFFICIAL KNOWN REJECTIONS SO FAR?
Given the above, I would be interested to learn if you know of someone who was officially rejected in March/April and found out via Cambridge self-service. It seems to me that people from our maybe group found out about their rejections only if they emailed/phoned Ms Wade, and therefore there are very many of us who have not heard either way.

Anyway, do you know from previous years whether people found out about their rejections via Cambridge self-service before May?

BACK-UP and RATING:
PS: If you had a back-up how would you rate LSE, UCL, and KCL in terms of Banking/Corporate/Insolvency specializations?

PRACTICALLITY OF OXFORD HIGHER THAN LSE,UCL, KCL?:
And also can M.Jur/BCL course at Oxford (whose curriculum definitely sounds veeeery academic to me) compare with LSE, UCL and KCL-(again banking, corporate, insolvency subjects) in terms of usefulness for a modern magic circle firm lawyer? I do understand that Oxbridge has the prestige and LSE/UCL/KCL are all a way beyond in terms of that. But I just wonder about practical implications of studying at Oxford, can the quality and practicality of the course compare to LSE/UCL/KCL(apart from prestige)?

Any recent Oxford graduates here? What is the course like?

<blockquote>
I have another friend who has not been made an offer from Oxford (a tragedy because he is brilliant). BUT Cambridge told him he will know about his application in the next two weeks. They originally said he would know by 15 April and then they revised that just recently to 'the next two weeks'.

If you have not heard from Cambridge, do not dispair. They are still considering offers.
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Yeah, thanks OffiGo. Good news that Cambridge offers have not been finalised yet.

THE ‘MAYBE’ GROUP
I guess that there are many of us placed by Cambridge into the 'maybe' group-meaning-haven't received email offers in Feb/March nor rejections as a result of their first application review stage, where the applications that clearly do not meet academic requirements were rejected. What I think has been happening for some time now (since the beginning of March) is that the candidates in the 'maybe' group are being placed against each other and offers are gradually being made as evidenced by the information on their website.

I was contacted by Ms Wade in late February to send some additional documentation which I sent to her in March. I was also advised that my application is 'currently' being considered-(February). Presumably, there were more of you in the same boat, and they just wanted to have full information on all of us in order to rank us against each other within ‘the maybe’ group.

I do think that many offers to the best applicants in the ‘maybe’ group have already been made, presumably starting in March. And it would seem unlikely that very many offers are still to be made this late, although it is great to hear that apparently some email offers are still to come.

MORE APPLICATIONS THIS YEAR
On the other hand, my friend who also applied to Oxford (M.Jur) told me that they had 33% more applications than in the previous years. If the same applies to Cambridge, there may well be some offers to be made, although no one (apart from Cambridge) knows how many.

ANY OFFICIAL KNOWN REJECTIONS SO FAR?
Given the above, I would be interested to learn if you know of someone who was officially rejected in March/April and found out via Cambridge self-service. It seems to me that people from our ‘maybe’ group found out about their rejections only if they emailed/phoned Ms Wade, and therefore there are very many of us who have not heard either way.

Anyway, do you know from previous years whether people found out about their rejections via Cambridge self-service before May?

BACK-UP and RATING:
PS: If you had a back-up how would you rate LSE, UCL, and KCL in terms of Banking/Corporate/Insolvency specializations?

PRACTICALLITY OF OXFORD HIGHER THAN LSE,UCL, KCL?:
And also can M.Jur/BCL course at Oxford (whose curriculum definitely sounds veeeery academic to me) compare with LSE, UCL and KCL-(again banking, corporate, insolvency subjects) in terms of usefulness for a modern magic circle firm lawyer? I do understand that Oxbridge has the prestige and LSE/UCL/KCL are all a way beyond in terms of that. But I just wonder about practical implications of studying at Oxford, can the quality and practicality of the course compare to LSE/UCL/KCL(apart from prestige)?

Any recent Oxford graduates here? What is the course like?
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HRoark

Got an offer via email today for Univ. Very exciting, as it was my first choice. Now all I have to do is pay for it.

Got an offer via email today for Univ. Very exciting, as it was my first choice. Now all I have to do is pay for it.
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hada

Univ? Sorry for my ignorance, not sure what that means!

Univ? Sorry for my ignorance, not sure what that means!
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My Camsis updated just now. Basically just shows I have an offer and it's dependent on financial liability and college membership. And I'm mildly annoyed that they also expect me to do an English language test! Good grief people. I am an English-speaking white South African - I have to wonder if they ask Canadians and Australians to take the test as well?

No word on scholarships or college membership yet.

My Camsis updated just now. Basically just shows I have an offer and it's dependent on financial liability and college membership. And I'm mildly annoyed that they also expect me to do an English language test! Good grief people. I am an English-speaking white South African - I have to wonder if they ask Canadians and Australians to take the test as well?

No word on scholarships or college membership yet.
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concorde

Hey

I called the LLM admissions last Friday and was told that @by this time next week@ (namely tomorrow) ALL the offers should be set and a final decision will be made regarding ALL the applications.
Hopefully this helps.

Mine still hasn't been updated and no email was received, literally - no connection:)

Hey

I called the LLM admissions last Friday and was told that @by this time next week@ (namely tomorrow) ALL the offers should be set and a final decision will be made regarding ALL the applications.
Hopefully this helps.

Mine still hasn't been updated and no email was received, literally - no connection:)
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reema03

A quicker way to find out the conditions of your offer is to call Ms. Wade and ask rather than wait for Camsis to be updated. She is very helpful and will either email the conditions the same day or tell them over the phone!

A quicker way to find out the conditions of your offer is to call Ms. Wade and ask rather than wait for Camsis to be updated. She is very helpful and will either email the conditions the same day or tell them over the phone!
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My Camsis updated just now. Basically just shows I have an offer and it's dependent on financial liability and college membership. And I'm mildly annoyed that they also expect me to do an English language test! Good grief people. I am an English-speaking white South African - I have to wonder if they ask Canadians and Australians to take the test as well?

No word on scholarships or college membership yet.


fire-child I sent you a PM.

<blockquote>My Camsis updated just now. Basically just shows I have an offer and it's dependent on financial liability and college membership. And I'm mildly annoyed that they also expect me to do an English language test! Good grief people. I am an English-speaking white South African - I have to wonder if they ask Canadians and Australians to take the test as well?

No word on scholarships or college membership yet. </blockquote>

fire-child I sent you a PM.
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HRoark

@Hada

Univ is shorthand for University College, Oxford.

@Hada

Univ is shorthand for University College, Oxford.
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Marco_H

Hello everybody!

Got an offer from Cambridge. My CamSIS has been updated today, though I already received an e-mail notification in February. However, I have to meet several conditions, especially the English Language conditions.

I already took an IELTS Test and exceeded the minimum requirement in each module - except Speaking: only got 6.5! This is really exasperating...

Anyone knows how Cambridge deals with results that are so close to the required minimum?

I just made an "Enquiry on Results" and am now asking myself if this might be successful. Has anyone experienced such an Enquiry?

Greetz from Germany

Hello everybody!

Got an offer from Cambridge. My CamSIS has been updated today, though I already received an e-mail notification in February. However, I have to meet several conditions, especially the English Language conditions.

I already took an IELTS Test and exceeded the minimum requirement in each module - except Speaking: only got 6.5! This is really exasperating...

Anyone knows how Cambridge deals with results that are so close to the required minimum?

I just made an "Enquiry on Results" and am now asking myself if this might be successful. Has anyone experienced such an Enquiry?

Greetz from Germany
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