LSE or KCL


rockstar

As far as Law schools go internationally, I would highly recommend KCL over LSE or any other university in England, or Europe for that matter. Having completed my undergraduate studies at LSE, I went onto doing my LLM at KCL. Looking back, this was a very good decision to make. I really enjoyed my time at KCL, I made some great friends before starting to work for a leading law firm. As far as reputations are concerned, both are great schools, but all in all if I had to make the choice again between KCL and LSE, I would definitely choose KCL.


Hi, I have gotten thru king's, Edinburgh, SOAS and Warwick and while making my choice I am more inclined towards warwick as I feel though king's is a great college but its much more expensive. and I am a non EU student. you think I will have more chances of getting employment in UK after doing my LLM from Kings than other universities I have gotten admission in. As you are an LSE and King's student and working with a leading lawfirm i guess you can give me a better picture.
thank you

As far as Law schools go internationally, I would highly recommend KCL over LSE or any other university in England, or Europe for that matter. Having completed my undergraduate studies at LSE, I went onto doing my LLM at KCL. Looking back, this was a very good decision to make. I really enjoyed my time at KCL, I made some great friends before starting to work for a leading law firm. As far as reputations are concerned, both are great schools, but all in all if I had to make the choice again between KCL and LSE, I would definitely choose KCL.




Hi, I have gotten thru king's, Edinburgh, SOAS and Warwick and while making my choice I am more inclined towards warwick as I feel though king's is a great college but its much more expensive. and I am a non EU student. you think I will have more chances of getting employment in UK after doing my LLM from Kings than other universities I have gotten admission in. As you are an LSE and King's student and working with a leading lawfirm i guess you can give me a better picture.
thank you
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FleurDuMal

As far as Law schools go internationally, I would highly recommend KCL over LSE or any other university in England, or Europe for that matter. Having completed my undergraduate studies at LSE, I went onto doing my LLM at KCL. Looking back, this was a very good decision to make. I really enjoyed my time at KCL, I made some great friends before starting to work for a leading law firm. As far as reputations are concerned, both are great schools, but all in all if I had to make the choice again between KCL and LSE, I would definitely choose KCL.


Hi, I have gotten thru king's, Edinburgh, SOAS and Warwick and while making my choice I am more inclined towards warwick as I feel though king's is a great college but its much more expensive. and I am a non EU student. you think I will have more chances of getting employment in UK after doing my LLM from Kings than other universities I have gotten admission in. As you are an LSE and King's student and working with a leading lawfirm i guess you can give me a better picture.
thank you


Well, you're obviously free to make up your own mind, but I'd be wary of an opinion such as "I would highly recommend KCL over LSE or any other university in England, or Europe for that matter."

Any other university in England or Europe?! Surely I'm not the only one who finds that a little odd? King's is great, sure, I've been here for just under three years now, but better than the likes of Oxford and Cambridge? Nah...

Edit: Of course, 'better' is a very loaded judgment, so read round that if you will.

<blockquote>As far as Law schools go internationally, I would highly recommend KCL over LSE or any other university in England, or Europe for that matter. Having completed my undergraduate studies at LSE, I went onto doing my LLM at KCL. Looking back, this was a very good decision to make. I really enjoyed my time at KCL, I made some great friends before starting to work for a leading law firm. As far as reputations are concerned, both are great schools, but all in all if I had to make the choice again between KCL and LSE, I would definitely choose KCL.




Hi, I have gotten thru king's, Edinburgh, SOAS and Warwick and while making my choice I am more inclined towards warwick as I feel though king's is a great college but its much more expensive. and I am a non EU student. you think I will have more chances of getting employment in UK after doing my LLM from Kings than other universities I have gotten admission in. As you are an LSE and King's student and working with a leading lawfirm i guess you can give me a better picture.
thank you</blockquote>

Well, you're obviously free to make up your own mind, but I'd be wary of an opinion such as "I would highly recommend KCL over LSE or any other university in England, or Europe for that matter."

Any other university in England or Europe?! Surely I'm not the only one who finds that a little odd? King's is great, sure, I've been here for just under three years now, but better than the likes of Oxford and Cambridge? Nah...

Edit: Of course, 'better' is a very loaded judgment, so read round that if you will.
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Hi everyone,
im new to the thread but i have read all of the above however i am still unsure of whether i should accept an unconditional offer in KCL or the conditional offer i recieved from LSE. the conditional offer from LSE is subject to obtaining a 2h1 in my final degree. It is highly unlikly i will recieve a grade lower than this but the security of the unconditional offer from kings s very alluring. some advice would really be appreciated! thanks TT

Hi everyone,
im new to the thread but i have read all of the above however i am still unsure of whether i should accept an unconditional offer in KCL or the conditional offer i recieved from LSE. the conditional offer from LSE is subject to obtaining a 2h1 in my final degree. It is highly unlikly i will recieve a grade lower than this but the security of the unconditional offer from kings s very alluring. some advice would really be appreciated! thanks TT
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cristian

The initial poster :
My fields of interest are International Finance law and EU Competition and with regard to what employers that would evaluate KCL or LSE in my CV I refer to international law firms from Brussels, Luxembourg or France (Paris).
So I saw a lot of "definitely KCL" or "definitely LSE" - I think that I will probably choose LSE (despite the higher tuition fee) because I understand that it is more famous at European level, but I am not 100% decided.
Any advice?

The initial poster :
My fields of interest are International Finance law and EU Competition and with regard to what employers that would evaluate KCL or LSE in my CV I refer to international law firms from Brussels, Luxembourg or France (Paris).
So I saw a lot of "definitely KCL" or "definitely LSE" - I think that I will probably choose LSE (despite the higher tuition fee) because I understand that it is more famous at European level, but I am not 100% decided.
Any advice?
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dl

Hello Everyone:

The answer to the question really comes down to what you want. I am an LLM at King's.

LSE Benefits:
International Reputation - especially in the Americas
Good Location
Exam Period is in June - so the degree gets completed sooner

King's Benefits:
International Reputation - less so in the Americas, but good in Europe and Asia
Good location (next to the LSE)
Exam Period is in August and September, with the last class ending in early June, so if you are in need of a few months of study time, this is probably ideal - many of my international non-native-English speaking colleagues have told me that this study period is beneficial for them
Teaching Reputation - the school is extremely focused on quality teaching
Administration - dealing with the LLM office is easy, and they are very customer-service friendly - that can make a huge difference in the law school experience (I've heard some negative stories about the University College London admin)

One important thing to keep in mind is that the London-wide LLM is coming to an end this year. So there will be fewer course options to choose from (unless some reciprocity agreement is instituted) since students will no longer be able to cross register for courses at UCL, SOAS, and Queen Mary. So look carefully at the course offerings calendar of any school to which you are accepted before deciding where to go.

Hello Everyone:

The answer to the question really comes down to what you want. I am an LLM at King's.

LSE Benefits:
International Reputation - especially in the Americas
Good Location
Exam Period is in June - so the degree gets completed sooner

King's Benefits:
International Reputation - less so in the Americas, but good in Europe and Asia
Good location (next to the LSE)
Exam Period is in August and September, with the last class ending in early June, so if you are in need of a few months of study time, this is probably ideal - many of my international non-native-English speaking colleagues have told me that this study period is beneficial for them
Teaching Reputation - the school is extremely focused on quality teaching
Administration - dealing with the LLM office is easy, and they are very customer-service friendly - that can make a huge difference in the law school experience (I've heard some negative stories about the University College London admin)

One important thing to keep in mind is that the London-wide LLM is coming to an end this year. So there will be fewer course options to choose from (unless some reciprocity agreement is instituted) since students will no longer be able to cross register for courses at UCL, SOAS, and Queen Mary. So look carefully at the course offerings calendar of any school to which you are accepted before deciding where to go.
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Hi all,

I have recently been accepted at King's and waiting on responses from LSE and UCL. My question is directed to those with some knoweldge of these schools, particularly those who are currently attending King's.

How do you find the professors especially those who focus on social theory and the law? From what I gather UCL specializes in traditional jurisprudece, while it seems King's specializes in social theory of law- is this true or is this simply website progangada?

While this depends on on how well i do at King's, I would like to pursue further graduate studies in law at oxbridge or another london university- does the KIng's LLM program in legal theory have a strong reputation. Do any students from a King's LLM go on to further grad studies at oxbridge for example?

As well, how is the law school community? Are there a lot of events, guest lectureres...parties? lol. Do ppl hang out after class and relax or is it a commuter school?

Any big positives in comparison with UCL?

I'm across the pond in North America and can't get much info from King's besides what i read on their website so any info would be much appreciated.

Hi all,

I have recently been accepted at King's and waiting on responses from LSE and UCL. My question is directed to those with some knoweldge of these schools, particularly those who are currently attending King's.

How do you find the professors especially those who focus on social theory and the law? From what I gather UCL specializes in traditional jurisprudece, while it seems King's specializes in social theory of law- is this true or is this simply website progangada?

While this depends on on how well i do at King's, I would like to pursue further graduate studies in law at oxbridge or another london university- does the KIng's LLM program in legal theory have a strong reputation. Do any students from a King's LLM go on to further grad studies at oxbridge for example?

As well, how is the law school community? Are there a lot of events, guest lectureres...parties? lol. Do ppl hang out after class and relax or is it a commuter school?

Any big positives in comparison with UCL?

I'm across the pond in North America and can't get much info from King's besides what i read on their website so any info would be much appreciated.
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FleurDuMal

Hi all,

I have recently been accepted at King's and waiting on responses from LSE and UCL. My question is directed to those with some knoweldge of these schools, particularly those who are currently attending King's.

How do you find the professors especially those who focus on social theory and the law? From what I gather UCL specializes in traditional jurisprudece, while it seems King's specializes in social theory of law- is this true or is this simply website progangada?

While this depends on on how well i do at King's, I would like to pursue further graduate studies in law at oxbridge or another london university- does the KIng's LLM program in legal theory have a strong reputation. Do any students from a King's LLM go on to further grad studies at oxbridge for example?

As well, how is the law school community? Are there a lot of events, guest lectureres...parties? lol. Do ppl hang out after class and relax or is it a commuter school?

Any big positives in comparison with UCL?

I'm across the pond in North America and can't get much info from King's besides what i read on their website so any info would be much appreciated.


Hey,

I just sent you a PM if you wanna check your mailbox. (:

<blockquote>Hi all,

I have recently been accepted at King's and waiting on responses from LSE and UCL. My question is directed to those with some knoweldge of these schools, particularly those who are currently attending King's.

How do you find the professors especially those who focus on social theory and the law? From what I gather UCL specializes in traditional jurisprudece, while it seems King's specializes in social theory of law- is this true or is this simply website progangada?

While this depends on on how well i do at King's, I would like to pursue further graduate studies in law at oxbridge or another london university- does the KIng's LLM program in legal theory have a strong reputation. Do any students from a King's LLM go on to further grad studies at oxbridge for example?

As well, how is the law school community? Are there a lot of events, guest lectureres...parties? lol. Do ppl hang out after class and relax or is it a commuter school?

Any big positives in comparison with UCL?

I'm across the pond in North America and can't get much info from King's besides what i read on their website so any info would be much appreciated. </blockquote>

Hey,

I just sent you a PM if you wanna check your mailbox. (:
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Johnson

KCL without question!

The academics are great and the reputation amongst leading international firms in the city (legal, banking, accounting etc) for legal students is second to none! The choice is simple If you want to study economics, as the name would suggest, go to LSE, otherwise KCL is the place for you. KCL is acknowledged internationally as a leading law school, making it an ideal choice for any prospective law student. Merely to consider studying law at LSE over KCL would be a big mistake.

Should you have any questions, please do not hesitate to let me know.


I disagree with this statement. Of course, LSE is a UK leading university for economics but it has also a very strong reputation in laws. As American, British are very keen on league table. On the Times league table, LSE is far better than KCL for LAW

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/displayPopup/0,,13425,00.html

and the difference in ranking overall is even greater still:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/displayPopup/0,,102571,00.html

And reputation is one of the criteria in rankings. Even if you cannot summarize all in a rankings, they are very important because they are an objective source.

<blockquote>KCL without question!

The academics are great and the reputation amongst leading international firms in the city (legal, banking, accounting etc) for legal students is second to none! The choice is simple… If you want to study economics, as the name would suggest, go to LSE, otherwise KCL is the place for you. KCL is acknowledged internationally as a leading law school, making it an ideal choice for any prospective law student. Merely to consider studying law at LSE over KCL would be a big mistake.

Should you have any questions, please do not hesitate to let me know.
</blockquote>

I disagree with this statement. Of course, LSE is a UK leading university for economics but it has also a very strong reputation in laws. As American, British are very keen on league table. On the Times league table, LSE is far better than KCL for LAW

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/displayPopup/0,,13425,00.html

and the difference in ranking overall is even greater still:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/displayPopup/0,,102571,00.html

And reputation is one of the criteria in rankings. Even if you cannot summarize all in a rankings, they are very important because they are an objective source.

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The initial poster :
My fields of interest are International Finance law and EU Competition and with regard to what employers that would evaluate KCL or LSE in my CV I refer to international law firms from Brussels, Luxembourg or France (Paris).
So I saw a lot of "definitely KCL" or "definitely LSE" - I think that I will probably choose LSE (despite the higher tuition fee) because I understand that it is more famous at European level, but I am not 100% decided.
Any advice?


Dude if you're focus lies in competition law and finance law, then look no further than KCL. As already posted on this forum KCL has some leading experts in finance law but in Competition law KCL they have the best: Richard Whish, the man is a legend, you must surely know who he is. He is backed by practitioners from leading magic circles.

Now as regards your question what will look impressive to the law firms, I can tell you as a former undergrad from KCL, who now works for one of the leading law firms in Brussels (if thats where you want to end up) that KCL looks awesome on your cv overhere in Brussels. Why? Because KCL has the leading reputation in EU law and Competition law throughout. If you go on law firm websites you will see a number of people have a diploma from KCL who now work in this field. I also recently spoke to one associate at a magic circle firm whether i should go to Cambridge to do an LLM and when i said i've been to KCL he said "what for you already have KCL on your CV"

This LSE v KCL debate is not as quite clear as everyone thinks. When i was at KCL i used to always think LSE was better - the superior if you like. But i was misled in my thinking. When i tell people in europe that i went to KCL the reaction is "wow". But the same would not happen in the US because LSE is better regarded there. Why? I dont know? Probably because LSE and KCL offer different things. KCL is a multi-purpose faculty whereas LSE's reputation comes from the fact they excel in economics and politics (as the name of the university suggests). So you have to put things into perspective. if you want to do polictics and econmics (or even international law) then LSE is the place. If EU Competition Law (and Finance Law) is what you want to do then KCL should be the place. One last fact I have not come across many people working in Brussels law firms that have been to LSE whereas I now a number who have been to KCL.

Hope this helps - its just a question of what you want and where gepgraphically speaking you want to work!

<blockquote>The initial poster :
My fields of interest are International Finance law and EU Competition and with regard to what employers that would evaluate KCL or LSE in my CV I refer to international law firms from Brussels, Luxembourg or France (Paris).
So I saw a lot of "definitely KCL" or "definitely LSE" - I think that I will probably choose LSE (despite the higher tuition fee) because I understand that it is more famous at European level, but I am not 100% decided.
Any advice?
</blockquote>

Dude if you're focus lies in competition law and finance law, then look no further than KCL. As already posted on this forum KCL has some leading experts in finance law but in Competition law KCL they have the best: Richard Whish, the man is a legend, you must surely know who he is. He is backed by practitioners from leading magic circles.

Now as regards your question what will look impressive to the law firms, I can tell you as a former undergrad from KCL, who now works for one of the leading law firms in Brussels (if thats where you want to end up) that KCL looks awesome on your cv overhere in Brussels. Why? Because KCL has the leading reputation in EU law and Competition law throughout. If you go on law firm websites you will see a number of people have a diploma from KCL who now work in this field. I also recently spoke to one associate at a magic circle firm whether i should go to Cambridge to do an LLM and when i said i've been to KCL he said "what for you already have KCL on your CV"

This LSE v KCL debate is not as quite clear as everyone thinks. When i was at KCL i used to always think LSE was better - the superior if you like. But i was misled in my thinking. When i tell people in europe that i went to KCL the reaction is "wow". But the same would not happen in the US because LSE is better regarded there. Why? I dont know? Probably because LSE and KCL offer different things. KCL is a multi-purpose faculty whereas LSE's reputation comes from the fact they excel in economics and politics (as the name of the university suggests). So you have to put things into perspective. if you want to do polictics and econmics (or even international law) then LSE is the place. If EU Competition Law (and Finance Law) is what you want to do then KCL should be the place. One last fact I have not come across many people working in Brussels law firms that have been to LSE whereas I now a number who have been to KCL.

Hope this helps - its just a question of what you want and where gepgraphically speaking you want to work!
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HomerJ

It doesn't matter what sectors, which employers or which countries, LSE will definitely be more advantageous for your career. what ever you intend to do afterwards...

It doesn't matter what sectors, which employers or which countries, LSE will definitely be more advantageous for your career. what ever you intend to do afterwards...
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FleurDuMal

It doesn't matter what sectors, which employers or which countries, LSE will definitely be more advantageous for your career. what ever you intend to do afterwards...


Care to elaborate? Because, if I'm honest, as someone who is at King's and is probably going to LSE (though I'm still undecided), that sounds like rubbish.

<blockquote>It doesn't matter what sectors, which employers or which countries, LSE will definitely be more advantageous for your career. what ever you intend to do afterwards...</blockquote>

Care to elaborate? Because, if I'm honest, as someone who is at King's and is probably going to LSE (though I'm still undecided), that sounds like rubbish.
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It doesn't matter what sectors, which employers or which countries, LSE will definitely be more advantageous for your career. what ever you intend to do afterwards...


ok then, why don't you go do medicine at LSE! Oh hang on a minute you can't. That's the point! So why is King's diploma in EC & Competition law so highly regarded, that most EC practitioners take it.

I am not saying KCL is better than LSE or vice versa! I'm saying they are strong in different areas. For example, at LSE you have Professor Crawford, the Don in international law. Whilst at KCL you now have the former Advocate Genral Jacobs of the European Court of Justice there. the dude asked me about competition law and i gave him my advice. If he had asked me about international law I would have said LSE hands down. one more fact, there are three new recruits in my office all of whom have studied under the tutelage of Prof Whish. It just depends what you want to do!

<blockquote>It doesn't matter what sectors, which employers or which countries, LSE will definitely be more advantageous for your career. what ever you intend to do afterwards...</blockquote>

ok then, why don't you go do medicine at LSE! Oh hang on a minute you can't. That's the point! So why is King's diploma in EC & Competition law so highly regarded, that most EC practitioners take it.

I am not saying KCL is better than LSE or vice versa! I'm saying they are strong in different areas. For example, at LSE you have Professor Crawford, the Don in international law. Whilst at KCL you now have the former Advocate Genral Jacobs of the European Court of Justice there. the dude asked me about competition law and i gave him my advice. If he had asked me about international law I would have said LSE hands down. one more fact, there are three new recruits in my office all of whom have studied under the tutelage of Prof Whish. It just depends what you want to do!
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HomerJ

Cristian asked the participants of the disscussion to take into consideration only the reputation of the university in front of the employers.
There ain`t no doubt, that LSE has - in an international view - a better reputation compared to KCL by far. An employer will take into consideration only the place you took the ll.m. program and not the brilliant persons who taught the courses. That would not be very realistic. By the way: I never maintained that LSE was better than KCL, but only that it has a better reputation. Besides it seems a little bit strange to me, to equate cambridge and KCL as you did before!

Cristian asked the participants of the disscussion to take into consideration only the reputation of the university in front of the employers.
There ain`t no doubt, that LSE has - in an international view - a better reputation compared to KCL by far. An employer will take into consideration only the place you took the ll.m. program and not the brilliant persons who taught the courses. That would not be very realistic. By the way: I never maintained that LSE was better than KCL, but only that it has a better reputation. Besides it seems a little bit strange to me, to equate cambridge and KCL as you did before!
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FleurDuMal

Cristian asked the participants of the disscussion to take into consideration only the reputation of the university in front of the employers.
There ain`t no doubt, that LSE has - in an international view - a better reputation compared to KCL by far. An employer will take into consideration only the place you took the ll.m. program and not the brilliant persons who taught the courses. That would not be very realistic. By the way: I never maintained that LSE was better than KCL, but only that it has a better reputation. Besides it seems a little bit strange to me, to equate cambridge and KCL as you did before!


I assume that last bit isn't aimed at me as I've never equated KCL and Cambridge!

But your wrong that employers will only look at where you took the LLM. If you wanted to go into academia they would certainly look at who taught you, but also they'd be more interested in what you write than where you wrote it. So the "it doesn't matter what you want to do, where you want to go" attitude is way off.

<blockquote>Cristian asked the participants of the disscussion to take into consideration only the reputation of the university in front of the employers.
There ain`t no doubt, that LSE has - in an international view - a better reputation compared to KCL by far. An employer will take into consideration only the place you took the ll.m. program and not the brilliant persons who taught the courses. That would not be very realistic. By the way: I never maintained that LSE was better than KCL, but only that it has a better reputation. Besides it seems a little bit strange to me, to equate cambridge and KCL as you did before!</blockquote>

I assume that last bit isn't aimed at me as I've never equated KCL and Cambridge!

But your wrong that employers will only look at where you took the LLM. If you wanted to go into academia they would certainly look at who taught you, but also they'd be more interested in what you write than where you wrote it. So the "it doesn't matter what you want to do, where you want to go" attitude is way off.
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Christian wrote "My fields of interest are International Finance law and EU Competition and with regard to what employers that would evaluate KCL or LSE in my CV I refer to international law firms from Brussels, Luxembourg or France (Paris)."

I was basing my response on this. If you are telling me that Brussels/Lux law firms regard someone with an LLM from LSE higher than one from KCL in European Competition law, then I would have to disagree!

Christian maybe you should try ringing some law firms HR department to see what they think. I know some HR people are very friendly about these things!

Christian wrote "My fields of interest are International Finance law and EU Competition and with regard to what employers that would evaluate KCL or LSE in my CV I refer to international law firms from Brussels, Luxembourg or France (Paris)."

I was basing my response on this. If you are telling me that Brussels/Lux law firms regard someone with an LLM from LSE higher than one from KCL in European Competition law, then I would have to disagree!

Christian maybe you should try ringing some law firms HR department to see what they think. I know some HR people are very friendly about these things!
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HomerJ

Ok, ok, I throw in the towel, my statement may have been a little bit too global...nevertheless I think it is more important for your CV where you study than the person who taught you. But that is a matter of opinion.

Ok, ok, I throw in the towel, my statement may have been a little bit too global...nevertheless I think it is more important for your CV where you study than the person who taught you. But that is a matter of opinion.
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cristian

Hy guys
this is Cristian :))
thank you for your answers,
I will go to LSE beacause I have an unconditional offer, whereas KCL gave me only a conditional offer (I have to re-take the IELTS), despite the fact that LSE's fees are higher.
I hope that I won't regret paying an additional amount of 3500 pounds.
However, I looked at the CV's of people from Allen&Overy in Brussels and Luxembourg and I noticed that a big part of them have followed an LLm at KCL.

Hy guys
this is Cristian :))
thank you for your answers,
I will go to LSE beacause I have an unconditional offer, whereas KCL gave me only a conditional offer (I have to re-take the IELTS), despite the fact that LSE's fees are higher.
I hope that I won't regret paying an additional amount of 3500 pounds.
However, I looked at the CV's of people from Allen&Overy in Brussels and Luxembourg and I noticed that a big part of them have followed an LLm at KCL.
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