LLM in Maritime Law


vinayakk

Hi all ,


I am currently working as a Technical Superintendent with a shipping firm for the past 4 years.

I would like to have opinion of the forum members as to which Law school is the best to apply to study Maritime Law in UK ( LLM).

I had worked as a Chief engineer onboard merchant vessels and have completed my MICS qualification.

will appreciate any sound advice based on above.

Hi all ,


I am currently working as a Technical Superintendent with a shipping firm for the past 4 years.

I would like to have opinion of the forum members as to which Law school is the best to apply to study Maritime Law in UK ( LLM).

I had worked as a Chief engineer onboard merchant vessels and have completed my MICS qualification.

will appreciate any sound advice based on above.




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Check out Swansea University's International Maritime LLM. It is one of the best in the world, and has close links with the industry.

Check out Swansea University's International Maritime LLM. It is one of the best in the world, and has close links with the industry.
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Lans

Hello,

I am a graduate student and a practicing lawyer in West Africa and wanted to specialise in Maritime Law but still confuse as to the particular area of specialisation in maritime law that is marketable in West Africa.

Can some please help me with this?

Thanks!
Lans

Hello,

I am a graduate student and a practicing lawyer in West Africa and wanted to specialise in Maritime Law but still confuse as to the particular area of specialisation in maritime law that is marketable in West Africa.

Can some please help me with this?

Thanks!
Lans
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kosta

Lars

I am from Greece but when I did my LLm at Swanse a few years ago, there were several students friom Ghana, Nigeria and Ivory Coast on the course. They had no difficulty as far as I know finding jobs in the market afterwards and I am in touch with some of them who work in London and other commercial centres. I loved my time at Swansea and if that is the kind of thing you are after (shipping and trade)- Swansea is a very good place. I strongly recommend.

Lars

I am from Greece but when I did my LLm at Swanse a few years ago, there were several students friom Ghana, Nigeria and Ivory Coast on the course. They had no difficulty as far as I know finding jobs in the market afterwards and I am in touch with some of them who work in London and other commercial centres. I loved my time at Swansea and if that is the kind of thing you are after (shipping and trade)- Swansea is a very good place. I strongly recommend.
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NYPE

Swansea, no brainer! Great LLM always up to date as the lecturers in Swansea look at the needs of the industry and introduce new modules and courses such as oil and gas law and multimodal ransport. Excellent quality of teaching and very caring staff. Swansea LLM degrees are very well respected in the City and all over the world. Swansea graduates do get good jobs. there is an impressive list of the jobs Swansea graduates hold on their website!

Swansea, no brainer! Great LLM always up to date as the lecturers in Swansea look at the needs of the industry and introduce new modules and courses such as oil and gas law and multimodal ransport. Excellent quality of teaching and very caring staff. Swansea LLM degrees are very well respected in the City and all over the world. Swansea graduates do get good jobs. there is an impressive list of the jobs Swansea graduates hold on their website!
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CC_Erika

I also highly recommend Swansea. I am an ex-student who did their LLM in Commercial and Maritime Law there. I think their biggest strength is their links to the practical world and is therefore suitable for people who want to go on to work in Maritime field, not just study in it! The majority of students are international ones, and we had many African students there who benefitted, as well as Europeans, Chinese and South Americans! As far as I can tell there were no students who were at a disadvantage because of the country they came from or wanted to work in later on. I know many of my peers from African states/China/Europe who are doing well now in their fields as a result of their degree in Swansea, myself included!!!

I highly recommend Swansea! The teaching quality and care to the students is very good in my opinion!

I also highly recommend Swansea. I am an ex-student who did their LLM in Commercial and Maritime Law there. I think their biggest strength is their links to the practical world and is therefore suitable for people who want to go on to work in Maritime field, not just study in it! The majority of students are international ones, and we had many African students there who benefitted, as well as Europeans, Chinese and South Americans! As far as I can tell there were no students who were at a disadvantage because of the country they came from or wanted to work in later on. I know many of my peers from African states/China/Europe who are doing well now in their fields as a result of their degree in Swansea, myself included!!!

I highly recommend Swansea! The teaching quality and care to the students is very good in my opinion!
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DomoWoo

Check out UCL's programme. It's second to none.

Check out UCL's programme. It's second to none.
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law01

Check out UCL's programme. It's second to none.


Hi, yes UCL does have a very good law school...but this does not mean it has the best LLM, especially in maritime law. The best Universities for Maritime Law, as far as I am aware, are Swansea and Southampton

<blockquote>Check out UCL's programme. It's second to none.</blockquote>

Hi, yes UCL does have a very good law school...but this does not mean it has the best LLM, especially in maritime law. The best Universities for Maritime Law, as far as I am aware, are Swansea and Southampton
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kosta

Indeed!! being generally very good and being very good on a specialist subject are two different things! This is the most common mistake overseas students do! They go to a university which is generally good and hope to learn lot on an international law subject which that university is not known for! After my graduation I came across so many overseas students who told me similar things: "Why we ended up going there- a general common law teacher was teaching us shipping law etc..." Well my advice is that do not be one of those guys!

Indeed!! being generally very good and being very good on a specialist subject are two different things! This is the most common mistake overseas students do! They go to a university which is generally good and hope to learn lot on an international law subject which that university is not known for! After my graduation I came across so many overseas students who told me similar things: "Why we ended up going there- a general common law teacher was teaching us shipping law etc..." Well my advice is that do not be one of those guys!
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law01

Indeed!! being generally very good and being very good on a specialist subject are two different things! This is the most common mistake overseas students do! They go to a university which is generally good and hope to learn lot on an international law subject which that university is not known for! After my graduation I came across so many overseas students who told me similar things: "Why we ended up going there- a general common law teacher was teaching us shipping law etc..." Well my advice is that do not be one of those guys!


I don't mind if people disagree or argue as to which Uni is better on an area...but making such a strong assertion about a Uni is unreasonable...indeed UCL is a strong Uni but definately not 'second to none' not for a general LLM and not for a maritime LLM. Especially having in mind that (if I remember right) it only offers 4-5 maritime-oriented modules

<blockquote>Indeed!! being generally very good and being very good on a specialist subject are two different things! This is the most common mistake overseas students do! They go to a university which is generally good and hope to learn lot on an international law subject which that university is not known for! After my graduation I came across so many overseas students who told me similar things: "Why we ended up going there- a general common law teacher was teaching us shipping law etc..." Well my advice is that do not be one of those guys! </blockquote>

I don't mind if people disagree or argue as to which Uni is better on an area...but making such a strong assertion about a Uni is unreasonable...indeed UCL is a strong Uni but definately not 'second to none' not for a general LLM and not for a maritime LLM. Especially having in mind that (if I remember right) it only offers 4-5 maritime-oriented modules
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DomoWoo

Check out UCL's programme. It's second to none.


Hi, yes UCL does have a very good law school...but this does not mean it has the best LLM, especially in maritime law. The best Universities for Maritime Law, as far as I am aware, are Swansea and Southampton


I'm here at the moment. Trust me, it's really, really good. The City has the largest insurance market in the world and so its links with industry are without equal. The lecturers are practicing barristers in insurance, maritime insurance, carriage of goods by sea etc. It's really, really good.

<blockquote><blockquote>Check out UCL's programme. It's second to none.</blockquote>

Hi, yes UCL does have a very good law school...but this does not mean it has the best LLM, especially in maritime law. The best Universities for Maritime Law, as far as I am aware, are Swansea and Southampton</blockquote>

I'm here at the moment. Trust me, it's really, really good. The City has the largest insurance market in the world and so its links with industry are without equal. The lecturers are practicing barristers in insurance, maritime insurance, carriage of goods by sea etc. It's really, really good.
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kosta

And I did study at swansea and know how well they are linked to the city and what employers think of swansea llm degree. Also there are 15 commercial maritime modules taught by experts who have practice experience and there all the time not simply show up in the evening to teach as a side job.

And I did study at swansea and know how well they are linked to the city and what employers think of swansea llm degree. Also there are 15 commercial maritime modules taught by experts who have practice experience and there all the time not simply show up in the evening to teach as a side job.
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law01

Check out UCL's programme. It's second to none.


Hi, yes UCL does have a very good law school...but this does not mean it has the best LLM, especially in maritime law. The best Universities for Maritime Law, as far as I am aware, are Swansea and Southampton


I'm here at the moment. Trust me, it's really, really good. The City has the largest insurance market in the world and so its links with industry are without equal. The lecturers are practicing barristers in insurance, maritime insurance, carriage of goods by sea etc. It's really, really good.


It's a funny thing mentioning your staff, cause as far as i know 1) you only have 4 maritime-oriented modules, and most of the staff studies and/or taught in Swansea and Southampton ;)

<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>Check out UCL's programme. It's second to none.</blockquote>

Hi, yes UCL does have a very good law school...but this does not mean it has the best LLM, especially in maritime law. The best Universities for Maritime Law, as far as I am aware, are Swansea and Southampton</blockquote>

I'm here at the moment. Trust me, it's really, really good. The City has the largest insurance market in the world and so its links with industry are without equal. The lecturers are practicing barristers in insurance, maritime insurance, carriage of goods by sea etc. It's really, really good. </blockquote>

It's a funny thing mentioning your staff, cause as far as i know 1) you only have 4 maritime-oriented modules, and most of the staff studies and/or taught in Swansea and Southampton ;)
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flori

Hello Kosta, hello everyone

Also there are 15 commercial maritime modules taught by experts who have practice experience and there all the time not simply show up in the evening to teach as a side job.


As much as I agree with you (and law01) regarding the question "City or Swansea" for a maritime law LLM, I am a little bit clueless about the _15_ "commercial maritime modules".

The current LLM page lists 9 potential modules for the LLM Maritime Law program.

Sure, the number goes up to 15 counting the modules for the "LLM in International Commercial and Maritime Law" -> however, I am not entirely sure whether a comparison of maritime law programs based on counting the pertinent modules is overly meaningful, when one counts "International Intellectual Property Law" and "Law of Intellectual Assests Management..." etc on the Swansea side...

Bye
flori

Hello Kosta, hello everyone

<blockquote>Also there are 15 commercial maritime modules taught by experts who have practice experience and there all the time not simply show up in the evening to teach as a side job. </blockquote>

As much as I agree with you (and law01) regarding the question "City or Swansea" for a maritime law LLM, I am a little bit clueless about the _15_ "commercial maritime modules".

The current LLM page lists 9 potential modules for the LLM Maritime Law program.

Sure, the number goes up to 15 counting the modules for the "LLM in International Commercial and Maritime Law" -> however, I am not entirely sure whether a comparison of maritime law programs based on counting the pertinent modules is overly meaningful, when one counts "International Intellectual Property Law" and "Law of Intellectual Assests Management..." etc on the Swansea side...

Bye
flori
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law01

Hello Kosta, hello everyone

Also there are 15 commercial maritime modules taught by experts who have practice experience and there all the time not simply show up in the evening to teach as a side job.


As much as I agree with you (and law01) regarding the question "City or Swansea" for a maritime law LLM, I am a little bit clueless about the _15_ "commercial maritime modules".

The current LLM page lists 9 potential modules for the LLM Maritime Law program.

Sure, the number goes up to 15 counting the modules for the "LLM in International Commercial and Maritime Law" -> however, I am not entirely sure whether a comparison of maritime law programs based on counting the pertinent modules is overly meaningful, when one counts "International Intellectual Property Law" and "Law of Intellectual Assests Management..." etc on the Swansea side...

Bye
flori


Hello Flori,

My comment was solely based on the reputation of Swansea and Southampton in respect to maritime law; I only made reference to the number of modules offered by UCL because I found it bizarre that someone would consider a university offering only 4 maritime options;( actually 3 as one of the 4 is International Trade Law ) to be second to none in respect to commercial law! However, I am not aware of what is in offer by Swansea or Southampton, I only spoke in regards to their reputation.

However, there is another very important aspect that an LLM candidate should consider when thinking of wherehe will do his LLM. Does he want to become a solicitor, a barrister or go back to his country (if he is not ENglish that is). This is a very important question, as if he wants to become a barrister, especially in London, then an LLm from either of this 3 Universities will not enhance his chances to get pupillage. If however he wants to become a solicitor or to go back to his country, then a maritime LLM from Swansea or Southampton would be an excellent choice,

<blockquote>Hello Kosta, hello everyone

<blockquote>Also there are 15 commercial maritime modules taught by experts who have practice experience and there all the time not simply show up in the evening to teach as a side job. </blockquote>

As much as I agree with you (and law01) regarding the question "City or Swansea" for a maritime law LLM, I am a little bit clueless about the _15_ "commercial maritime modules".

The current LLM page lists 9 potential modules for the LLM Maritime Law program.

Sure, the number goes up to 15 counting the modules for the "LLM in International Commercial and Maritime Law" -> however, I am not entirely sure whether a comparison of maritime law programs based on counting the pertinent modules is overly meaningful, when one counts "International Intellectual Property Law" and "Law of Intellectual Assests Management..." etc on the Swansea side...

Bye
flori
</blockquote>

Hello Flori,

My comment was solely based on the reputation of Swansea and Southampton in respect to maritime law; I only made reference to the number of modules offered by UCL because I found it bizarre that someone would consider a university offering only 4 maritime options;( actually 3 as one of the 4 is International Trade Law ) to be second to none in respect to commercial law! However, I am not aware of what is in offer by Swansea or Southampton, I only spoke in regards to their reputation.

However, there is another very important aspect that an LLM candidate should consider when thinking of wherehe will do his LLM. Does he want to become a solicitor, a barrister or go back to his country (if he is not ENglish that is). This is a very important question, as if he wants to become a barrister, especially in London, then an LLm from either of this 3 Universities will not enhance his chances to get pupillage. If however he wants to become a solicitor or to go back to his country, then a maritime LLM from Swansea or Southampton would be an excellent choice,
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