is Hertfordshire is a good university


anas
actually i send my application to more than one university, the last two universities were Queen Mary and Hertfordshire , the first one send an e mail inform me that i will receive a conditional offer shortly from the registry , the condition was to raise my ielts score from 6.0 to 6.5 at least in order to enrolled in pre-sessional course, then i was suprised to receive a letter of rejection from queen mary stated that that they are unable to offer me a place ,,,,,,, i do not know what happened to them its quite strange .

but i received a offer from Hertfordshire for commercial law , does anybody know if its good university or not for commercial field and international law as well .
I know it is ranked in 42 place in the table issued by the times magazine.

i would be grateful for the advice
actually i send my application to more than one university, the last two universities were Queen Mary and Hertfordshire , the first one send an e mail inform me that i will receive a conditional offer shortly from the registry , the condition was to raise my ielts score from 6.0 to 6.5 at least in order to enrolled in pre-sessional course, then i was suprised to receive a letter of rejection from queen mary stated that that they are unable to offer me a place ,,,,,,, i do not know what happened to them its quite strange .

but i received a offer from Hertfordshire for commercial law , does anybody know if its good university or not for commercial field and international law as well .
I know it is ranked in 42 place in the table issued by the times magazine.

i would be grateful for the advice
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james
No, I've heard some pretty bad things about it.
No, I've heard some pretty bad things about it.
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york
This is what the Guardian writes about Hertfordshire:

University of Hertfordshire

Catharine Freeman
Tuesday April 19, 2005
The Guardian

The opening of the £120m de Havilland campus in 2003 acted as a real boost for the University of Hertfordshire, improving resources and bumping up application levels. The university now boasts excellent academic, residential, IT and leisure facilities, including a £15m sports complex and a 24-hour hi-tech learning resources centre. The de Havilland campus is located close to the Hatfield site, with cycle-routes and bus paths linking the two. The city centre site in St Albans lies within easy reach and London is just 25 minutes by train. The town/gown divide in Hatfield is now much improved, and the lively students' union offers a wide range of social events, ranging from live music events to a summer ball.

http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/universityguide/profile/story/0,9988,489514,00.html
This is what the Guardian writes about Hertfordshire:

University of Hertfordshire

Catharine Freeman
Tuesday April 19, 2005
The Guardian

The opening of the £120m de Havilland campus in 2003 acted as a real boost for the University of Hertfordshire, improving resources and bumping up application levels. The university now boasts excellent academic, residential, IT and leisure facilities, including a £15m sports complex and a 24-hour hi-tech learning resources centre. The de Havilland campus is located close to the Hatfield site, with cycle-routes and bus paths linking the two. The city centre site in St Albans lies within easy reach and London is just 25 minutes by train. The town/gown divide in Hatfield is now much improved, and the lively students' union offers a wide range of social events, ranging from live music events to a summer ball.

http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/universityguide/profile/story/0,9988,489514,00.html
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james
I disagree with that synopsis. I have 2 friends who went there and they were both completely disappointed with the calibre of teaching. Also, the new campus has nothing to do with the law campus, which has limited resources. It is an ex-polytechnic and is rated very low on every scale. Furthermore, they recruit wealthy international students who can barely read and write.
I disagree with that synopsis. I have 2 friends who went there and they were both completely disappointed with the calibre of teaching. Also, the new campus has nothing to do with the law campus, which has limited resources. It is an ex-polytechnic and is rated very low on every scale. Furthermore, they recruit wealthy international students who can barely read and write.
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Hi...
I completely agree with James. I would strongly advise you against going to Hertfordshire unless that is your ONLY option (you can still apply to other Unis or apply early for next academic session). It is not highly ranked. 42 is NOT a high ranking for a Uni in the UK. If you are an international student you will be making a sizeable investment and frankly I don't think the ROI would be substantial. However, if all you want is an LLM from a UK Uni, then I guess Hertfordshire will suffice. As for its reputation in commercial law and/ or international law, I seriously doubt if it can compare with the other more reputed Unis.
Hope this helps..
Good luck!!!
Hi...
I completely agree with James. I would strongly advise you against going to Hertfordshire unless that is your ONLY option (you can still apply to other Unis or apply early for next academic session). It is not highly ranked. 42 is NOT a high ranking for a Uni in the UK. If you are an international student you will be making a sizeable investment and frankly I don't think the ROI would be substantial. However, if all you want is an LLM from a UK Uni, then I guess Hertfordshire will suffice. As for its reputation in commercial law and/ or international law, I seriously doubt if it can compare with the other more reputed Unis.
Hope this helps..
Good luck!!!
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anas
hi speranza

after reading your comment and other comments i made very negative view about hertfordshire uni , and the place as well, may be i have to wait for the next year to apply for better uni

thanks for help
hi speranza

after reading your comment and other comments i made very negative view about hertfordshire uni , and the place as well, may be i have to wait for the next year to apply for better uni

thanks for help
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adelx
I had a chance to study at several world-class universities world wide. one of the universities I attended was University of Hertfordshire. I have to tell you that they are not like Oxford or any top university. however, overall, they are a good school and I believe that in the next 10 years they are going to be a top university in the UK. However, my studies were not Law. I was studying computer science .

in term of the Law school which you are concern about, I checked out the Education Guardian ranking and they were ranked 79. this tells me that they don't have a good Law school, although they are ranked as a top new university for Law by The Times Good University Guide 2004.

At the end, Hertfordshire is building its name and it is much better then many universities in some studies. they have a wonderful learning and information service center. Allow me to quote, " The University has maintained a high level of investment in digital and print information resources for successive years, with an annual budget of over £1.7 million. The collections comprise some 500,000 volumes of bookstock, over 9000 journal titles (4000 print, 8000 full-text electronic journal titles)"

if I were you, and I am not in a hurry, I would wait for another year and aim at getting to a top 10 university.

. Hertfordshire
I had a chance to study at several world-class universities world wide. one of the universities I attended was University of Hertfordshire. I have to tell you that they are not like Oxford or any top university. however, overall, they are a good school and I believe that in the next 10 years they are going to be a top university in the UK. However, my studies were not Law. I was studying computer science .

in term of the Law school which you are concern about, I checked out the Education Guardian ranking and they were ranked 79. this tells me that they don't have a good Law school, although they are ranked as a top new university for Law by The Times Good University Guide 2004.

At the end, Hertfordshire is building its name and it is much better then many universities in some studies. they have a wonderful learning and information service center. Allow me to quote, " The University has maintained a high level of investment in digital and print information resources for successive years, with an annual budget of over £1.7 million. The collections comprise some 500,000 volumes of bookstock, over 9000 journal titles (4000 print, 8000 full-text electronic journal titles)"

if I were you, and I am not in a hurry, I would wait for another year and aim at getting to a top 10 university.

. Hertfordshire
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The judge
I am amazed how many people believe they are qualified to comment on whether "Hertfordshire is a good university" given they have never studied there!

I am a mature student now embarking on the second year of my law degree. I would like to set the record straight, the facilities and standard of teaching are excellent. The open door policy enables students to receive excellent face to face exposure and advice from the many willing and I might add highly qualified staff. The fact that the law school is away from the main campus allows for a quiet and appropriate enviroment to study law.

So don't listen to gossip and chinese whispers take it from me this University has a great deal going for it.
I am amazed how many people believe they are qualified to comment on whether "Hertfordshire is a good university" given they have never studied there!

I am a mature student now embarking on the second year of my law degree. I would like to set the record straight, the facilities and standard of teaching are excellent. The open door policy enables students to receive excellent face to face exposure and advice from the many willing and I might add highly qualified staff. The fact that the law school is away from the main campus allows for a quiet and appropriate enviroment to study law.

So don't listen to gossip and chinese whispers take it from me this University has a great deal going for it.
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Ali1980
I agree with "the judge" as above. I too studied there (both my law degree and LPC) and I found it excellent. The resources are second to none (you can find just about any precedent you could ever want as the case law dates back to the 1100s), they video most of the lectures, which are easily accesible via the online intranet (which is brilliant when it comes to revising!), and they even have their own pro bono service and court room and actively participate in national mooting competitions which gives you the practical experience that many law schools do not. The teaching is also excellent with the lecturers delivering the seminars in an informative, yet practical manner, and are always more than willing to help you out and go over things in your spare time if you need clarification on certain areas etc. I am actually now considering taking a masters there, and I have found in the workplace, that employers really dont care where you studied, just that you attained your degrees and can show a passion, dedication and willingness to learn.
I agree with "the judge" as above. I too studied there (both my law degree and LPC) and I found it excellent. The resources are second to none (you can find just about any precedent you could ever want as the case law dates back to the 1100s), they video most of the lectures, which are easily accesible via the online intranet (which is brilliant when it comes to revising!), and they even have their own pro bono service and court room and actively participate in national mooting competitions which gives you the practical experience that many law schools do not. The teaching is also excellent with the lecturers delivering the seminars in an informative, yet practical manner, and are always more than willing to help you out and go over things in your spare time if you need clarification on certain areas etc. I am actually now considering taking a masters there, and I have found in the workplace, that employers really dont care where you studied, just that you attained your degrees and can show a passion, dedication and willingness to learn.
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Kerfuffle
QMUL has well-recognised LLM programme (just like LSE, KCL, SOAS and UCL), you'd be daft to favour Hertfordshire over a Uni of London school, and that doesn't mean Hertfordshire is bad...but it just won't offer the calibre of programme that you'll get from one of the Uni' of London colleges for commercial law.
QMUL has well-recognised LLM programme (just like LSE, KCL, SOAS and UCL), you'd be daft to favour Hertfordshire over a Uni of London school, and that doesn't mean Hertfordshire is bad...but it just won't offer the calibre of programme that you'll get from one of the Uni' of London colleges for commercial law.
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Interalia
QMUL has well-recognised LLM programme (just like LSE, KCL, SOAS and UCL), you'd be daft to favour Hertfordshire over a Uni of London school, and that doesn't mean Hertfordshire is bad...but it just won't offer the calibre of programme that you'll get from one of the Uni' of London colleges for commercial law.


The query was in 2005. I think you're replying to something which has long since lost its relevance.
<blockquote>QMUL has well-recognised LLM programme (just like LSE, KCL, SOAS and UCL), you'd be daft to favour Hertfordshire over a Uni of London school, and that doesn't mean Hertfordshire is bad...but it just won't offer the calibre of programme that you'll get from one of the Uni' of London colleges for commercial law. </blockquote>

The query was in 2005. I think you're replying to something which has long since lost its relevance.
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Kerfuffle
ha! Thanks. It had already been bumped by the poster above - I did not notice the date.
ha! Thanks. It had already been bumped by the poster above - I did not notice the date.

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Good Evening Everyone,

I have been offered a place to study LLm in Commercial &International at Herts Uni this September 09 . I am a bit worried about the comments some people made about the uni, please I am asking a genuine advice from some one who undertook the same course, also since I am working , I want to know how many days I should attend you uni for Full time , and importantly what days normally the classes held. I do understand they are subject to change but I want to have a rough idea how thing works,.
Thank you in advance I appreciate your help .
Good Evening Everyone,

I have been offered a place to study LLm in Commercial &International at Herts Uni this September 09 . I am a bit worried about the comments some people made about the uni, please I am asking a genuine advice from some one who undertook the same course, also since I am working , I want to know how many days I should attend you uni for Full time , and importantly what days normally the classes held. I do understand they are subject to change but I want to have a rough idea how thing works,.
Thank you in advance I appreciate your help .
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Robbed
I am a new long distance learner of Herts Uni. I went through an affiliated college in my country. I am also a second year Law student at University of London (also through distance learning, so I think according to Judge standards, I too am qualified to make an mature contribution). Let me tell you that this University is no way near the standards of UOL, and I was shocked to experience first hand where the program director booked more students than class seats.

The air-conditioning was not working and I could smell the perspiration of those sitting around me. It was difficult to even breathe. During the intermission I informed the Program Director of the conditions, to which he replied that this year they got their largest intake of students. But the reality is if you have 30 seats available per classroom, then the student intake should be 30 as oppose to 60 students.

I left the class early and immediately wrote to the Herts, informing them of the issues and that I would like a 100% returned on my tuition fees of GBP500.00. I am aware that they have a policy of 20percent deduction for administrative fees for withdrawal of one to three weeks. But given my situation, it was through to over-subscription. This is not my fault.

The Hert online coordinator wrote to me after 13 working days, to inform that I can only get back 80percent of my money and to add insult to injury that I am entirely an online student.

They are trying to disassociate me with the college that represents them in my country. But unfortunately for them I signed the attendance register. So now I am going to report them to the Ministry of Tertiary Education and the Bureau for Consumer Affairs.

The University only care about the money factor! Not the student...If you're looking for an easy degree or acceptance into a University because no other University will accept you then Hert is the place for you.

I work with the Ministry of Labour and I would not give preference to graduates from University of Hert.
I am a new long distance learner of Herts Uni. I went through an affiliated college in my country. I am also a second year Law student at University of London (also through distance learning, so I think according to Judge standards, I too am qualified to make an mature contribution). Let me tell you that this University is no way near the standards of UOL, and I was shocked to experience first hand where the program director booked more students than class seats.

The air-conditioning was not working and I could smell the perspiration of those sitting around me. It was difficult to even breathe. During the intermission I informed the Program Director of the conditions, to which he replied that this year they got their largest intake of students. But the reality is if you have 30 seats available per classroom, then the student intake should be 30 as oppose to 60 students.

I left the class early and immediately wrote to the Herts, informing them of the issues and that I would like a 100% returned on my tuition fees of GBP500.00. I am aware that they have a policy of 20percent deduction for administrative fees for withdrawal of one to three weeks. But given my situation, it was through to over-subscription. This is not my fault.

The Hert online coordinator wrote to me after 13 working days, to inform that I can only get back 80percent of my money and to add insult to injury that I am entirely an online student.

They are trying to disassociate me with the college that represents them in my country. But unfortunately for them I signed the attendance register. So now I am going to report them to the Ministry of Tertiary Education and the Bureau for Consumer Affairs.

The University only care about the money factor! Not the student...If you're looking for an easy degree or acceptance into a University because no other University will accept you then Hert is the place for you.

I work with the Ministry of Labour and I would not give preference to graduates from University of Hert.
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