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Hello to everyone..

My name is Yasir. I am from Pakistan. I did my LLB from Karachi University in 2008 since than i have bewn working as a junior lawyer with someone. I applied for LLM in saveral universities and now i have unconditional offer from.

1. University of Manchester for LLM in International Business and commercial law and
2. Univerasity of sheffield for LLM corporate law.

My first question is which course/university would you recommend keeping in view global job prospects and secondly does LLM degree make me eligible for bar for i do not have a QLD. Is LLM->CPE->bar a possible route or is it mandatory to have a UK LLB degree for bar.

Thank you.
Hello to everyone..

My name is Yasir. I am from Pakistan. I did my LLB from Karachi University in 2008 since than i have bewn working as a junior lawyer with someone. I applied for LLM in saveral universities and now i have unconditional offer from.

1. University of Manchester for LLM in International Business and commercial law and
2. Univerasity of sheffield for LLM corporate law.

My first question is which course/university would you recommend keeping in view global job prospects and secondly does LLM degree make me eligible for bar for i do not have a QLD. Is LLM->CPE->bar a possible route or is it mandatory to have a UK LLB degree for bar.

Thank you.
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Manchester has received some nasty comments on its LLM programme.

Sheffield is a solid law school.

Both have strong world rankings.

LLM-CPE is possible yes - you should go to the best school you can get if you want to practice in the UK. Durham, Bristol, UCL, Kings, Nottingham are the schools you should be targeting.

There are others of course but these are consistently in the top!!
Manchester has received some nasty comments on its LLM programme.

Sheffield is a solid law school.

Both have strong world rankings.

LLM-CPE is possible yes - you should go to the best school you can get if you want to practice in the UK. Durham, Bristol, UCL, Kings, Nottingham are the schools you should be targeting.

There are others of course but these are consistently in the top!!
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Manchester has received some nasty comments on its LLM programme.

Sheffield is a solid law school.

Both have strong world rankings.

LLM-CPE is possible yes - you should go to the best school you can get if you want to practice in the UK. Durham, Bristol, UCL, Kings, Nottingham are the schools you should be targeting.

There are others of course but these are consistently in the top!!


Thanks for the reply. I was told that there is no way i can i can get into CPE. I dont want to practice law in England i'd rather like to have a job in a law firm anywhere. I want to do CPE because its a prerequisite for bar.
<blockquote>Manchester has received some nasty comments on its LLM programme.

Sheffield is a solid law school.

Both have strong world rankings.

LLM-CPE is possible yes - you should go to the best school you can get if you want to practice in the UK. Durham, Bristol, UCL, Kings, Nottingham are the schools you should be targeting.

There are others of course but these are consistently in the top!!</blockquote>

Thanks for the reply. I was told that there is no way i can i can get into CPE. I dont want to practice law in England i'd rather like to have a job in a law firm anywhere. I want to do CPE because its a prerequisite for bar.
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Whoever told you that is wrong.

You can enroll on CPE easily. If you want to work in a law firm practicing law you will need it and the LPC(as a solicitor) or BVC(for the bar). Unless you get a job in a law firm practicing law of your own country...its not easy at all. Law firms in the UK as you are aware advise on English law.

The CPE route is for those wanting to qualify in the UK. If you don't want to practice in the UK don't waist your time and money and try to get a job with the LLM ( again its hard, but if you have business to offer and clients firms will be interested, otherwise you will be lucky to get an internship)
Whoever told you that is wrong.

You can enroll on CPE easily. If you want to work in a law firm practicing law you will need it and the LPC(as a solicitor) or BVC(for the bar). Unless you get a job in a law firm practicing law of your own country...its not easy at all. Law firms in the UK as you are aware advise on English law.

The CPE route is for those wanting to qualify in the UK. If you don't want to practice in the UK don't waist your time and money and try to get a job with the LLM ( again its hard, but if you have business to offer and clients firms will be interested, otherwise you will be lucky to get an internship)
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Sorry for the late reply. If i am getting your point, you mean its better to practice in UK than finding a job because chances of getting a job are remote...correct me if i am wrong.
Sorry for the late reply. If i am getting your point, you mean its better to practice in UK than finding a job because chances of getting a job are remote...correct me if i am wrong.
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Are you looking towards practising as a barrister in England? If so, before you go any further, you may want to look at the statistics for the number of BVC students who actually obtain pupillage and then tenancy (and maybe deduct those who are working a small criminal/family law chambers who often earn little money).
Are you looking towards practising as a barrister in England? If so, before you go any further, you may want to look at the statistics for the number of BVC students who actually obtain pupillage and then tenancy (and maybe deduct those who are working a small criminal/family law chambers who often earn little money).
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Hmmm i have done a bit of research on what you have said and it seems like very few people make it. What if i leave England after doing BVC , for instance if i head towards Canada or may be Dubai?
Hmmm i have done a bit of research on what you have said and it seems like very few people make it. What if i leave England after doing BVC , for instance if i head towards Canada or may be Dubai?
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Don't waist your money.

You will have to take a pupillage and it is very very hard to get but not impossible though. I Very much doubt that it will be of any use even in those jurisdictions unless you are a qualified barrister
Don't waist your money.

You will have to take a pupillage and it is very very hard to get but not impossible though. I Very much doubt that it will be of any use even in those jurisdictions unless you are a qualified barrister
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Sorry for the late reply. If i am getting your point, you mean its better to practice in UK than finding a job because chances of getting a job are remote...correct me if i am wrong.


Its not better to practice in the UK. It is hard to practice in the UK. If you are committed to live in the UK then by all means do it. Have a feel of the market first..
<blockquote>Sorry for the late reply. If i am getting your point, you mean its better to practice in UK than finding a job because chances of getting a job are remote...correct me if i am wrong.</blockquote>

Its not better to practice in the UK. It is hard to practice in the UK. If you are committed to live in the UK then by all means do it. Have a feel of the market first..
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Sorry for the late reply. If i am getting your point, you mean its better to practice in UK than finding a job because chances of getting a job are remote...correct me if i am wrong.


Its not better to practice in the UK. It is hard to practice in the UK. If you are committed to live in the UK then by all means do it. Have a feel of the market first..


Hmmm fine...what about the LLM>CPE>LPC route???
<blockquote><blockquote>Sorry for the late reply. If i am getting your point, you mean its better to practice in UK than finding a job because chances of getting a job are remote...correct me if i am wrong.</blockquote>

Its not better to practice in the UK. It is hard to practice in the UK. If you are committed to live in the UK then by all means do it. Have a feel of the market first..</blockquote>

Hmmm fine...what about the LLM>CPE>LPC route???
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That route would be ok but it wil mean

3 years (LLM+CPE+LPC) if full time and plus 2 (solicitor training contract) to qualify as a lawyer = 5 years total?

And to get a training contract....its a hell of a lot of trouble trust me.
That route would be ok but it wil mean

3 years (LLM+CPE+LPC) if full time and plus 2 (solicitor training contract) to qualify as a lawyer = 5 years total?

And to get a training contract....its a hell of a lot of trouble trust me.
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