Cambridge LLM 2016 - 2017 Applicants


Eppendorf

I too have heard of people with 2.1 from Durham, Nottingham etc getting into Cambridge in the last few years


As with the above quote: real names please.

<blockquote>I too have heard of people with 2.1 from Durham, Nottingham etc getting into Cambridge in the last few years</blockquote>

As with the above quote: real names please.
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imnc

Out of interest - what are your referees putting for your class rank? Top 1%, 5%, 10% or 25%?


Top 1%.


This guy is a fool who's been trying for years to give the impression that the Cambridge LLM is god's gift to lawyers and exaggerate the selection criteria.

It's not.

It's a great LL.M. program but so are many others. The sad part is that it's a poor second cousin to Oxford's BCL (vastly more prestigious) and the 'selectivity' is ridiculous. Anyone with a 2.1 and decent referees will get an offer. Nearly three-quarters of the original LLM offers are turned down, usually for Oxford. Virtually everybody in the class are oxford and ivy (not cornell though) rejects.

A good comparison would be to say Cambridge is the NYU of England - without the Hauser scholarships.

I had a first and did get an offer but I do know plenty of people with 2.1s who did. So don't worry too much - a 2.1 can most assuredly get you into Cambridge. Whether it's worth going to is a different matter


Please tell us the names of your alleged 2:1 friends who got an offer.

Until then: presumed to be false.

Been there. Seen it.


Pretty rich for someone who hides under a pseudonym himself.

Anyway the only thing more miserable than a wannabe troll feeling smug about his LLM is a troll whose 'accomplishment' extends just to Cambridge.

so how did it feel getting rejected from Oxford? Not gotten over it eh?

<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>Out of interest - what are your referees putting for your class rank? Top 1%, 5%, 10% or 25%?</blockquote>

Top 1%.</blockquote>

This guy is a fool who's been trying for years to give the impression that the Cambridge LLM is god's gift to lawyers and exaggerate the selection criteria.

It's not.

It's a great LL.M. program but so are many others. The sad part is that it's a poor second cousin to Oxford's BCL (vastly more prestigious) and the 'selectivity' is ridiculous. Anyone with a 2.1 and decent referees will get an offer. Nearly three-quarters of the original LLM offers are turned down, usually for Oxford. Virtually everybody in the class are oxford and ivy (not cornell though) rejects.

A good comparison would be to say Cambridge is the NYU of England - without the Hauser scholarships.

I had a first and did get an offer but I do know plenty of people with 2.1s who did. So don't worry too much - a 2.1 can most assuredly get you into Cambridge. Whether it's worth going to is a different matter</blockquote>

Please tell us the names of your alleged 2:1 friends who got an offer.

Until then: presumed to be false.

Been there. Seen it.</blockquote>

Pretty rich for someone who hides under a pseudonym himself.

Anyway the only thing more miserable than a wannabe troll feeling smug about his LLM is a troll whose 'accomplishment' extends just to Cambridge.

so how did it feel getting rejected from Oxford? Not gotten over it eh?
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Inactive User

"Under consideration by degree committee"

"Under consideration by degree committee"
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Inactive User

Out of interest - what are your referees putting for your class rank? Top 1%, 5%, 10% or 25%?


Top 1%.


This guy is a fool who's been trying for years to give the impression that the Cambridge LLM is god's gift to lawyers and exaggerate the selection criteria.

It's not.

It's a great LL.M. program but so are many others. The sad part is that it's a poor second cousin to Oxford's BCL (vastly more prestigious) and the 'selectivity' is ridiculous. Anyone with a 2.1 and decent referees will get an offer. Nearly three-quarters of the original LLM offers are turned down, usually for Oxford. Virtually everybody in the class are oxford and ivy (not cornell though) rejects.

A good comparison would be to say Cambridge is the NYU of England - without the Hauser scholarships.

I had a first and did get an offer but I do know plenty of people with 2.1s who did. So don't worry too much - a 2.1 can most assuredly get you into Cambridge. Whether it's worth going to is a different matter


"Nearly three-quarters of the original LLM offers are turned down"

Is this correct?

There are 170 places on the LLM. That would mean more than 500 offers are made. With 1000 applications, that would mean more than 50% of applicants are offered a place.


I don't have any insider info or anything, so don't quote me on this, but I would venture a guess and say you're correct. The LLM, after all, makes lots of money for the University, so they wouldn't want to leave any one space free - and I would assume that many would in the end not be in a position to take up their offer whether it be due to other offers, lack of funding, or not being able to meet offer conditions.

<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>Out of interest - what are your referees putting for your class rank? Top 1%, 5%, 10% or 25%?</blockquote>

Top 1%.</blockquote>

This guy is a fool who's been trying for years to give the impression that the Cambridge LLM is god's gift to lawyers and exaggerate the selection criteria.

It's not.

It's a great LL.M. program but so are many others. The sad part is that it's a poor second cousin to Oxford's BCL (vastly more prestigious) and the 'selectivity' is ridiculous. Anyone with a 2.1 and decent referees will get an offer. Nearly three-quarters of the original LLM offers are turned down, usually for Oxford. Virtually everybody in the class are oxford and ivy (not cornell though) rejects.

A good comparison would be to say Cambridge is the NYU of England - without the Hauser scholarships.

I had a first and did get an offer but I do know plenty of people with 2.1s who did. So don't worry too much - a 2.1 can most assuredly get you into Cambridge. Whether it's worth going to is a different matter</blockquote>

"Nearly three-quarters of the original LLM offers are turned down"

Is this correct?

There are 170 places on the LLM. That would mean more than 500 offers are made. With 1000 applications, that would mean more than 50% of applicants are offered a place.</blockquote>

I don't have any insider info or anything, so don't quote me on this, but I would venture a guess and say you're correct. The LLM, after all, makes lots of money for the University, so they wouldn't want to leave any one space free - and I would assume that many would in the end not be in a position to take up their offer whether it be due to other offers, lack of funding, or not being able to meet offer conditions.
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imnc


"Nearly three-quarters of the original LLM offers are turned down"

Is this correct?

There are 170 places on the LLM. That would mean more than 500 offers are made. With 1000 applications, that would mean more than 50% of applicants are offered a place.


I'm doing my LLM this year in America. I got through all the schools I applied except Yale and Michigan (wtf!) I did not apply to Stanford because of the pretentious program and the bad location. I also got through Oxbridge.

I have counted 31 people so far in my LLM class who had offers for Cambridge and turned those down (for oxford it is 19). This 31 is from the small number who did apply to Cambridge, many dozens of other classmates never bothered to apply to Cambridge for many different reasons, selectivity and exclusivity being one of them. I also do not personally know anyone over the years who applied but was rejected from Cambridge while having good credentials. Overall it reinforces my idea that the Cambridge LLM is quite easy to get into though that itself should not distract from Cambridge's merits. It just means that there is a low yield at Cantab and if you apply there and satisfy the criteria (1 or 2.1) you will almost certainly get an offer.

Leaving aside students who choose US law schools, a high number of Cambridge applicants also place Oxford as their No. 1 choice and since the pool of applicants is common the cream usually goes to Oxon, with some exceptions who get exhibitions or funding or have special interests (or maybe prefer the architecture of Trinity)

So a 50% offer rate is very likely, maybe even higher if you take into account students who leave for the big 3 (Yale, Harvard, Columbia), have not money or choose lesser but more financially rewarding destinations.

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"Nearly three-quarters of the original LLM offers are turned down"

Is this correct?

There are 170 places on the LLM. That would mean more than 500 offers are made. With 1000 applications, that would mean more than 50% of applicants are offered a place.</blockquote>

I'm doing my LLM this year in America. I got through all the schools I applied except Yale and Michigan (wtf!) I did not apply to Stanford because of the pretentious program and the bad location. I also got through Oxbridge.

I have counted 31 people so far in my LLM class who had offers for Cambridge and turned those down (for oxford it is 19). This 31 is from the small number who did apply to Cambridge, many dozens of other classmates never bothered to apply to Cambridge for many different reasons, selectivity and exclusivity being one of them. I also do not personally know anyone over the years who applied but was rejected from Cambridge while having good credentials. Overall it reinforces my idea that the Cambridge LLM is quite easy to get into though that itself should not distract from Cambridge's merits. It just means that there is a low yield at Cantab and if you apply there and satisfy the criteria (1 or 2.1) you will almost certainly get an offer.

Leaving aside students who choose US law schools, a high number of Cambridge applicants also place Oxford as their No. 1 choice and since the pool of applicants is common the cream usually goes to Oxon, with some exceptions who get exhibitions or funding or have special interests (or maybe prefer the architecture of Trinity)

So a 50% offer rate is very likely, maybe even higher if you take into account students who leave for the big 3 (Yale, Harvard, Columbia), have not money or choose lesser but more financially rewarding destinations.
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mgpf89

"Under consideration by degree committee"


Is this different than under consideration by department?

Is someone getting an error while trying to access the Self Service page for Graduate Applicants??

<blockquote>"Under consideration by degree committee"</blockquote>

Is this different than under consideration by department?

Is someone getting an error while trying to access the Self Service page for Graduate Applicants??
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Inactive User

"Under consideration by degree committee"


Is this different than under consideration by department?

Is someone getting an error while trying to access the Self Service page for Graduate Applicants??


Re. your first question - I have no idea.

Second question: I have got an error sometimes, I usually get around it by logging in to the self-service account through the links provided on the error page.

<blockquote><blockquote>"Under consideration by degree committee"</blockquote>

Is this different than under consideration by department?

Is someone getting an error while trying to access the Self Service page for Graduate Applicants??</blockquote>

Re. your first question - I have no idea.

Second question: I have got an error sometimes, I usually get around it by logging in to the self-service account through the links provided on the error page.
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suit&tie

I got "Under Consideration by Degree Committee" today as well.

I got "Under Consideration by Degree Committee" today as well.
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MSH1994

http://www.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/after-applying/selection-process

I got "under consideration..." too - not sure from reading the above whether I can gage if this is a good thing for it to change so quickly.

http://www.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/after-applying/selection-process

I got "under consideration..." too - not sure from reading the above whether I can gage if this is a good thing for it to change so quickly.
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mog92

I initially thought that it was promising, but as I understand it different departments do things differently, and the Law faculty sends all applicants to consideration by the LLM Admissions Committee.

I initially thought that it was promising, but as I understand it different departments do things differently, and the Law faculty sends all applicants to consideration by the LLM Admissions Committee.
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KayTee

How easy it is to get scholarships in Cambridge? Can anyone shed light on this?

How easy it is to get scholarships in Cambridge? Can anyone shed light on this?
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Vamiel

Anybody from a country with a grading system like 0-20/20 ?
I was wondering how much Cambridge expects from us. A first would be 16/20 but it's impossible in France to attain such a grade, unless you are a no-life. Got 14.5 at my master's degree, it's already quite good.

Anybody from a country with a grading system like 0-20/20 ?
I was wondering how much Cambridge expects from us. A first would be 16/20 but it's impossible in France to attain such a grade, unless you are a no-life. Got 14.5 at my master's degree, it's already quite good.
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Anybody from a country with a grading system like 0-20/20 ?
I was wondering how much Cambridge expects from us. A first would be 16/20 but it's impossible in France to attain such a grade, unless you are a no-life. Got 14.5 at my master's degree, it's already quite good.


Hi, I am from France and I've been told that actually all that matters is if you are in top 5-10% of your class because as you said 16/20 is very hard to get and I think is even impossible at some schools.

<blockquote>Anybody from a country with a grading system like 0-20/20 ?
I was wondering how much Cambridge expects from us. A first would be 16/20 but it's impossible in France to attain such a grade, unless you are a no-life. Got 14.5 at my master's degree, it's already quite good.
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Hi, I am from France and I've been told that actually all that matters is if you are in top 5-10% of your class because as you said 16/20 is very hard to get and I think is even impossible at some schools.
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Vamiel

Hi,

Indeed, the best students of my uni (Aix) hardly reach 15/20. But we don't have any ranking among the students, it's just a gross evaluation. I'd say I'm in the top 15% of my class, the top 5% got around 15/20, which is already whooping.
Where do you come from ?

Hi,

Indeed, the best students of my uni (Aix) hardly reach 15/20. But we don't have any ranking among the students, it's just a gross evaluation. I'd say I'm in the top 15% of my class, the top 5% got around 15/20, which is already whooping.
Where do you come from ?
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Hi,

Indeed, the best students of my uni (Aix) hardly reach 15/20. But we don't have any ranking among the students, it's just a gross evaluation. I'd say I'm in the top 15% of my class, the top 5% got around 15/20, which is already whooping.
Where do you come from ?


Yes I understand. I asked at my school if they do any kind of ranking to prove that I am in the top 5-10% but they told me that they cannot give me anything like that so I sent an email to Cambridge and they told me that it's ok if you write it in your motivation letter (the questions in the application form) or when you referees say so. I think that they know how it works in France. I am in Strasbourg

<blockquote>Hi,

Indeed, the best students of my uni (Aix) hardly reach 15/20. But we don't have any ranking among the students, it's just a gross evaluation. I'd say I'm in the top 15% of my class, the top 5% got around 15/20, which is already whooping.
Where do you come from ?</blockquote>

Yes I understand. I asked at my school if they do any kind of ranking to prove that I am in the top 5-10% but they told me that they cannot give me anything like that so I sent an email to Cambridge and they told me that it's ok if you write it in your motivation letter (the questions in the application form) or when you referees say so. I think that they know how it works in France. I am in Strasbourg
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mgpf89

Anybody from a country with a grading system like 0-20/20 ?
I was wondering how much Cambridge expects from us. A first would be 16/20 but it's impossible in France to attain such a grade, unless you are a no-life. Got 14.5 at my master's degree, it's already quite good.


I also come from a country with a grading system over 20 but it's different here. They give you a certificate with your grade, the equivalent GPA over 4.0 and class ranking.

<blockquote>Anybody from a country with a grading system like 0-20/20 ?
I was wondering how much Cambridge expects from us. A first would be 16/20 but it's impossible in France to attain such a grade, unless you are a no-life. Got 14.5 at my master's degree, it's already quite good.
</blockquote>

I also come from a country with a grading system over 20 but it's different here. They give you a certificate with your grade, the equivalent GPA over 4.0 and class ranking.
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