What are my chances - really?


Hi everyone!

I guess many of you are sick and tierd of these kinds of questions, but here I go anyway..

I have just finished my third year at the five year law program at the University of Oslo, Norway. We are able to do a LLM in a foreign institution as our fifth year, to complete the standard norwegian Master of Law degee. On this basis, I am looking to try my luck this fall at schools such as HLS, CLS, Berkley, Oxford and Cambridge. Honestly, in my view, my outlook is not too optimistic. So do not be afraid to give me some honest advice I expect nothing less. I will of course finish my fourth year in Oslo, before going abroad. At this stage, my status is as follows.

1. Ethnic Norwegian, Male, Age 24.

2. Grades
Six out of six As (scale A-F) after my first three years at UiO Law. (About 5 to 10 % recieve an A on each exam). Unofficially, my respons from the exam sensors has been that my exams are among the absolute top As given. Of course, this is not communicated in my papers, but may at least help my chances of getting good academic recommendations, which brings me to my next point.

3. Recommendations
Am currently working on getting a couple of academic recommendations. Am not really sure how these may turn out. I have excellent exam-results, sure, but the Norwegian law program gives room for little or no interaction with the faculty. Almost no one has any closer relationship with any of the professors. This part sucks really.. I hope none the less to obtain some reasonably good recommendations.

4. Work
Worked by now six months part time as a paralegal in a medium size business law firm. Worked on cases of some magnitude, which can serve as basis for some well written recommendations.

5. A trainee position at Norways second largest firm, Thommessen (Chambers Scandinavian law firm of the year in 2007).

6. A second Bachlors degree
Will by this christmas (hopefully) complete a Bachelors degree in Business and Administration at University of Agder, taken part time for the last two years (about 65 % study-load). Will by all measures graduate with a B minus average. My law classes in Oslo are used as elective courses to complete the degree.

7. A few minor student body positions. Nothing fancy.

8. No publications. Almost no students are able to get work published by the Norwegian publications.

So, now, give it to me staight. Am I just dreaming? In my view, I have some good academic results, but other than that no really impressive competative edges. The Norwegian systems do not allow too many chances for a student to obtain these either, but still.

Permission to fire at will.

Thirdparty

Hi everyone!

I guess many of you are sick and tierd of these kinds of questions, but here I go anyway..

I have just finished my third year at the five year law program at the University of Oslo, Norway. We are able to do a LLM in a foreign institution as our fifth year, to complete the standard norwegian Master of Law degee. On this basis, I am looking to try my luck this fall at schools such as HLS, CLS, Berkley, Oxford and Cambridge. Honestly, in my view, my outlook is not too optimistic. So do not be afraid to give me some honest advice – I expect nothing less. I will of course finish my fourth year in Oslo, before going abroad. At this stage, my status is as follows.

1. Ethnic Norwegian, Male, Age 24.

2. Grades
Six out of six A’s (scale A-F) after my first three years at UiO Law. (About 5 to 10 % recieve an A on each exam). Unofficially, my respons from the exam sensors has been that my exams are among the absolute top A’s given. Of course, this is not communicated in my papers, but may at least help my chances of getting good academic recommendations, which brings me to my next point.

3. Recommendations
Am currently working on getting a couple of academic recommendations. Am not really sure how these may turn out. I have excellent exam-results, sure, but the Norwegian law program gives room for little or no interaction with the faculty. Almost no one has any closer relationship with any of the professors. This part sucks really.. I hope none the less to obtain some reasonably good recommendations.

4. Work
Worked by now six months part time as a paralegal in a medium size business law firm. Worked on cases of some magnitude, which can serve as basis for some well written recommendations.

5. A trainee position at Norways second largest firm, Thommessen (Chambers Scandinavian law firm of the year in 2007).

6. A second Bachlors degree
Will by this christmas (hopefully) complete a Bachelors degree in Business and Administration at University of Agder, taken part time for the last two years (about 65 % study-load). Will by all measures graduate with a B minus average. My law classes in Oslo are used as elective courses to complete the degree.

7. A few minor student body positions. Nothing fancy.

8. No publications. Almost no students are able to get work published by the Norwegian publications.

So, now, give it to me staight. Am I just dreaming? In my view, I have some good academic results, but other than that no really impressive competative edges. The Norwegian systems do not allow too many chances for a student to obtain these either, but still.

Permission to fire at will.

Thirdparty
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equity's d...

your grades put you inside the top 10 percent of your class. this, coupled with strong references, will make you a contender at the all the schools you mention.

your grades put you inside the top 10 percent of your class. this, coupled with strong references, will make you a contender at the all the schools you mention.
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Raf2411

Man, my opinion doesn't mean anything - I'm looking forward to do an LLM, but I'm still not so sure I'm going to do one... but my reaction when reading your post is just: "if not you, then who can get accepted...?!" and that even for Berkeley... (but again, my opinion has no value)

Man, my opinion doesn't mean anything - I'm looking forward to do an LLM, but I'm still not so sure I'm going to do one... but my reaction when reading your post is just: "if not you, then who can get accepted...?!" and that even for Berkeley... (but again, my opinion has no value)
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kjc647

I am merely starting to get interested in taking law on as a conversion course! You are someone who I would look at and think "If only I could do so well!" You have, by the sounds of things, received high academic credits! With a great recommendation and your BA, I feel sure you should apply!

I am merely starting to get interested in taking law on as a conversion course! You are someone who I would look at and think "If only I could do so well!" You have, by the sounds of things, received high academic credits! With a great recommendation and your BA, I feel sure you should apply!
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Thank you everyone for your inputs. They are appreciated.

Thank you everyone for your inputs. They are appreciated.
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beee

ure definately getting into all the places you applied to.

i have a question too..........my grades are nuting to boast about.........but i have got a lot a experience....almost 6 yrs.
which universities do u guys think experience is more important than grades?????

ure definately getting into all the places you applied to.

i have a question too..........my grades are nuting to boast about.........but i have got a lot a experience....almost 6 yrs.
which universities do u guys think experience is more important than grades?????
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tagotra

hey u'jj get in man... u may be rejected by Harvard... rest of it u should get...

hey u'jj get in man... u may be rejected by Harvard... rest of it u should get...
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tagotra

All the best buddy!!

All the best buddy!!
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msn

hey all,
I am a student in d penultimate year of study. I have an aggregate of 77% as of now n m at d top of my batch.
I also have a few internships. I am expecting to get decent recos from my professors.
I am keen on applying to OXbridge. Could anyone tell me wat all is considered while weighing applications?

hey all,
I am a student in d penultimate year of study. I have an aggregate of 77% as of now n m at d top of my batch.
I also have a few internships. I am expecting to get decent recos from my professors.
I am keen on applying to OXbridge. Could anyone tell me wat all is considered while weighing applications?
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Pharrell

Hi,
Thirdparty- Nothing venture, nothing gain.
Best univ. seeks to admit students of outstanding intellectual ability who will bring a wide range of backgrounds, experiences and perspectives to the classroom so......... in my opinion- just apply:)

Hi,
Thirdparty- Nothing venture, nothing gain.
Best univ. seeks to admit students of outstanding intellectual ability who will bring a wide range of backgrounds, experiences and perspectives to the classroom so......... in my opinion- just apply:)
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Bush

Hi Thirdparty,

I have completed the five year master of law (MA) program at the University of Oslo and will be attending the LLM program at LSE this fall.

When it comes to applying to LLM programs in UK and USA, you have to be aware that not all law schools accept your application if you don't have completed the master degree in Norway. Since we don't get a bachelor prior to the master, some schools require us to finnish the master, as LSE does.

Hi Thirdparty,

I have completed the five year master of law (MA) program at the University of Oslo and will be attending the LLM program at LSE this fall.

When it comes to applying to LLM programs in UK and USA, you have to be aware that not all law schools accept your application if you don't have completed the master degree in Norway. Since we don't get a bachelor prior to the master, some schools require us to finnish the master, as LSE does.
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JohnDoe4

Hi Thirdparty,

I have completed the five year master of law (MA) program at the University of Oslo and will be attending the LLM program at LSE this fall.

When it comes to applying to LLM programs in UK and USA, you have to be aware that not all law schools accept your application if you don't have completed the master degree in Norway. Since we don't get a bachelor prior to the master, some schools require us to finnish the master, as LSE does.


Hello Bush!

Since you, like my self, are a norwegian and since you have been accepted at LSE I was wondering how you believe my chances are at the schools I mention in my post, with the background I have. Here's the link to the post: http://www.llm-guide.com/board/49885.

As you can see I am also very interested in applying to LSE. What courses are you planning to do? I am looking either at EU law/competition law or some aspects of international law. How would you rank LSE compared to HLS, CLS, Oxford, Cambridge and so on in theese subjects? Thank you very much for any inputs.

PS: I was not aware that LSE required us to finish our master, but thanks for that info as well:)

<blockquote>Hi Thirdparty,

I have completed the five year master of law (MA) program at the University of Oslo and will be attending the LLM program at LSE this fall.

When it comes to applying to LLM programs in UK and USA, you have to be aware that not all law schools accept your application if you don't have completed the master degree in Norway. Since we don't get a bachelor prior to the master, some schools require us to finnish the master, as LSE does.
</blockquote>

Hello Bush!

Since you, like my self, are a norwegian and since you have been accepted at LSE I was wondering how you believe my chances are at the schools I mention in my post, with the background I have. Here's the link to the post: http://www.llm-guide.com/board/49885.

As you can see I am also very interested in applying to LSE. What courses are you planning to do? I am looking either at EU law/competition law or some aspects of international law. How would you rank LSE compared to HLS, CLS, Oxford, Cambridge and so on in theese subjects? Thank you very much for any inputs.

PS: I was not aware that LSE required us to finish our master, but thanks for that info as well:)
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