I am new here, and I would appreciate if some of you could help me to understand the LLM application.
Does anyone know the entire process step by step? I am overwhelmed, and I need help.
Thanks in advance.
LLM in 2015
Posted Jan 22, 2015 22:09
Does anyone know the entire process step by step? I am overwhelmed, and I need help.
Thanks in advance.
Posted Jan 22, 2015 23:26
I am new here, and I would appreciate if some of you could help me to understand the LLM application.
Does anyone know the entire process step by step? I am overwhelmed, and I need help.
Thanks in advance.
Hi,
we would need more details, as every University has its own application process
Does anyone know the entire process step by step? I am overwhelmed, and I need help.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi,
we would need more details, as every University has its own application process
Posted Jan 23, 2015 02:41
I would like to know the steps I should take to apply for few of the LLM program available in the USA.
I know that some law schools probably closed the deadline to receive applications.
Do I still have any chance of start my process now, and eventually start the class on the fall?
What are the first steps that I have to take?
I graduate from my law school in Brazil in 2001, and I didn't keep in touch with my teachers in order to ask them to right a letter to me. What should I do? How does it work?
How long does it take to get everything in place to submit to the schools?
Can I use the same letter from my teachers to apply to difference law school?
I really appreciate everyone's inputs and opinion.
I know that some law schools probably closed the deadline to receive applications.
Do I still have any chance of start my process now, and eventually start the class on the fall?
What are the first steps that I have to take?
I graduate from my law school in Brazil in 2001, and I didn't keep in touch with my teachers in order to ask them to right a letter to me. What should I do? How does it work?
How long does it take to get everything in place to submit to the schools?
Can I use the same letter from my teachers to apply to difference law school?
I really appreciate everyone's inputs and opinion.
Posted Jan 23, 2015 06:32
I am sorry but you are too late. Deadlines of the most of the schools have already passed or will be ending soon. You can try but i am not very optimistic. It takes around 3-4 months to complete the whole process.
Posted Jan 23, 2015 13:21
I am sorry but you are too late. Deadlines of the most of the schools have already passed or will be ending soon. You can try but i am not very optimistic. It takes around 3-4 months to complete the whole process.
I do agree that most of the deadlines have passed but completing an application would definately not take 3-4 months as you state
I do agree that most of the deadlines have passed but completing an application would definately not take 3-4 months as you state
Posted Jan 23, 2015 13:34
Then, how much time will it take according to you?
Posted Jan 23, 2015 13:58
Then, how much time will it take according to you?
if you read the question he/she asked --> 'How long does it take to get everything in place to submit to the schools?'
which means simply 'how long will it take me to fill in the application and submit it?'
You would have been right if she asked how long she'll have to wait to get a reply.. but 3-4 months to complete the application and submit it???? this would be ridiculous :s
if you read the question he/she asked --> 'How long does it take to get everything in place to submit to the schools?'
which means simply 'how long will it take me to fill in the application and submit it?'
You would have been right if she asked how long she'll have to wait to get a reply.. but 3-4 months to complete the application and submit it???? this would be ridiculous :s
Posted Jan 23, 2015 14:00
Anyway, my dear virtual friends, I still would like to know that steps I should be taking in order to prepare well my application, and apply for the schools on the fall of this year.
It seems that there is a school in NC that is still accepting applications, and one in Washington.
Would I still have time to try to apply? Any opinion?
Please, help me to understand this whole process. What are the first steps?
I appreciate the time you will take to respond me.
It seems that there is a school in NC that is still accepting applications, and one in Washington.
Would I still have time to try to apply? Any opinion?
Please, help me to understand this whole process. What are the first steps?
I appreciate the time you will take to respond me.
Posted Jan 23, 2015 14:38
Then, how much time will it take according to you?
if you read the question he/she asked --> 'How long does it take to get everything in place to submit to the schools?'
which means simply 'how long will it take me to fill in the application and submit it?'
You would have been right if she asked how long she'll have to wait to get a reply.. but 3-4 months to complete the application and submit it???? this would be ridiculous :s
Okay man, i am being ridiculous. You are right. Let's just agree to disagree.
if you read the question he/she asked --> 'How long does it take to get everything in place to submit to the schools?'
which means simply 'how long will it take me to fill in the application and submit it?'
You would have been right if she asked how long she'll have to wait to get a reply.. but 3-4 months to complete the application and submit it???? this would be ridiculous :s</blockquote>
Okay man, i am being ridiculous. You are right. Let's just agree to disagree.
Posted Jan 23, 2015 14:57
Then, how much time will it take according to you?
if you read the question he/she asked --> 'How long does it take to get everything in place to submit to the schools?'
which means simply 'how long will it take me to fill in the application and submit it?'
You would have been right if she asked how long she'll have to wait to get a reply.. but 3-4 months to complete the application and submit it???? this would be ridiculous :s
Okay man, i am being ridiculous. You are right. Let's just agree to disagree.
I'll give you the following example: Cambridge's LLM application opens in October and closes in the first days of November...if someone needs 3-4 months to complete an application as you argue then it would be impossible to apply to Cambridge....same with Oxford, some of its postgarduate degrees have a deadline in November!!! Harvard's applications start in October and officially end on the 1st of December but they suggest that you should submit by the 15th of November!!!
if you read the question he/she asked --> 'How long does it take to get everything in place to submit to the schools?'
which means simply 'how long will it take me to fill in the application and submit it?'
You would have been right if she asked how long she'll have to wait to get a reply.. but 3-4 months to complete the application and submit it???? this would be ridiculous :s</blockquote>
Okay man, i am being ridiculous. You are right. Let's just agree to disagree.</blockquote>
I'll give you the following example: Cambridge's LLM application opens in October and closes in the first days of November...if someone needs 3-4 months to complete an application as you argue then it would be impossible to apply to Cambridge....same with Oxford, some of its postgarduate degrees have a deadline in November!!! Harvard's applications start in October and officially end on the 1st of December but they suggest that you should submit by the 15th of November!!!
Posted Jan 23, 2015 15:06
first i was only talking about U.S. law schools. Application process is different in U.S.A. as far as Harvard is concerned, Harvard is one of those few colleges which doesn't require one to use services of LSAC. Did you take into account time to give TOEFL, getting the result and also the time taken by ETS to send the result to Harvard? Please feel free to correct me but i am guessing you assumed that the said process has already been completed.
Posted Jan 23, 2015 15:17
first i was only talking about U.S. law schools. Application process is different in U.S.A. as far as Harvard is concerned, Harvard is one of those few colleges which doesn't require one to use services of LSAC. Did you take into account time to give TOEFL, getting the result and also the time taken by ETS to send the result to Harvard? Please feel free to correct me but i am guessing you assumed that the said process has already been completed.
If you read my previous posts I made clear that the question made by Sonia clearly referred only to the actual application process!!! TOEFL results and other documents eg transcripts etc can be sent at a later date not necessarily together with your application! Further to this, if you obtained your degree from an English speaking University then you will not be required to sit TOEFL! So as the question was referring to the application as such hence my reply was directed to the application as well!!
</blockquote>
If you read my previous posts I made clear that the question made by Sonia clearly referred only to the actual application process!!! TOEFL results and other documents eg transcripts etc can be sent at a later date not necessarily together with your application! Further to this, if you obtained your degree from an English speaking University then you will not be required to sit TOEFL! So as the question was referring to the application as such hence my reply was directed to the application as well!!
Posted Jan 23, 2015 15:27
first i was only talking about U.S. law schools. Application process is different in U.S.A. as far as Harvard is concerned, Harvard is one of those few colleges which doesn't require one to use services of LSAC. Did you take into account time to give TOEFL, getting the result and also the time taken by ETS to send the result to Harvard? Please feel free to correct me but i am guessing you assumed that the said process has already been completed.
If you read my previous posts I made clear that the question made by Sonia clearly referred only to the actual application process!!! TOEFL results and other documents eg transcripts etc can be sent at a later date not necessarily together with your application! Further to this, if you obtained your degree from an English speaking University then you will not be required to sit TOEFL! So as the question was referring to the application as such hence my reply was directed to the application as well!!
i am sorry for not considering TOEFL as part of actual application process. Unless the law school receives all of your relevant documents including TOEFL score report, your file won't be considered as complete by the deadline. and i don't know which schools you are talking about, but all the documents are required along with application by most of the schools or at least good schools including the one Sonia was talking about. even i know about the exemption clause but how can you be 100 percent sure that it will be applicable to Sonia. and you said nothing about the LSAC process which is required by most of the law schools including the one Sonia was talking about.
As far as Cambridge is concerned, don't you know that they allow you to upload all the required documents but such is not the case with U.S. law schools.
it seems to me that you only have partial knowledge about the application process for LL.M. in U.S. law schools.
</blockquote>
If you read my previous posts I made clear that the question made by Sonia clearly referred only to the actual application process!!! TOEFL results and other documents eg transcripts etc can be sent at a later date not necessarily together with your application! Further to this, if you obtained your degree from an English speaking University then you will not be required to sit TOEFL! So as the question was referring to the application as such hence my reply was directed to the application as well!!</blockquote>
i am sorry for not considering TOEFL as part of actual application process. Unless the law school receives all of your relevant documents including TOEFL score report, your file won't be considered as complete by the deadline. and i don't know which schools you are talking about, but all the documents are required along with application by most of the schools or at least good schools including the one Sonia was talking about. even i know about the exemption clause but how can you be 100 percent sure that it will be applicable to Sonia. and you said nothing about the LSAC process which is required by most of the law schools including the one Sonia was talking about.
As far as Cambridge is concerned, don't you know that they allow you to upload all the required documents but such is not the case with U.S. law schools.
it seems to me that you only have partial knowledge about the application process for LL.M. in U.S. law schools.
Posted Jan 23, 2015 15:33
first i was only talking about U.S. law schools. Application process is different in U.S.A. as far as Harvard is concerned, Harvard is one of those few colleges which doesn't require one to use services of LSAC. Did you take into account time to give TOEFL, getting the result and also the time taken by ETS to send the result to Harvard? Please feel free to correct me but i am guessing you assumed that the said process has already been completed.
If you read my previous posts I made clear that the question made by Sonia clearly referred only to the actual application process!!! TOEFL results and other documents eg transcripts etc can be sent at a later date not necessarily together with your application! Further to this, if you obtained your degree from an English speaking University then you will not be required to sit TOEFL! So as the question was referring to the application as such hence my reply was directed to the application as well!!
i am sorry for not considering TOEFL as part of actual application process. Unless the law school receives all of your relevant documents including TOEFL score report, your file won't be considered as complete by the deadline. and i don't know which schools you are talking about, but all the documents are required along with application by most of the schools or at least good schools including the one Sonia was talking about. even i know about the exemption clause but how can you be 100 percent sure that it will be applicable to Sonia. and you said nothing about the LSAC process which is required by most of the law schools including the one Sonia was talking about.
As far as Cambridge is concerned, don't you know that they allow you to upload all the required documents but such is not the case with U.S. law schools.
it seems to me that you only have partial knowledge about the application process for LL.M. in U.S. law schools.
I applied to Harvard this year; which is considered by many to have the most challenging application. Harvard allows for any other supporting documents (such as TOEFL etc) to be sent at a later date; they will make a conditional offer subject to receiving those documents. So I don't know what do you mean by 'all good schools' because I doubt there is any school that tops Harvard....So you might have to review your knowledge and understanding of the LLM application system
</blockquote>
If you read my previous posts I made clear that the question made by Sonia clearly referred only to the actual application process!!! TOEFL results and other documents eg transcripts etc can be sent at a later date not necessarily together with your application! Further to this, if you obtained your degree from an English speaking University then you will not be required to sit TOEFL! So as the question was referring to the application as such hence my reply was directed to the application as well!!</blockquote>
i am sorry for not considering TOEFL as part of actual application process. Unless the law school receives all of your relevant documents including TOEFL score report, your file won't be considered as complete by the deadline. and i don't know which schools you are talking about, but all the documents are required along with application by most of the schools or at least good schools including the one Sonia was talking about. even i know about the exemption clause but how can you be 100 percent sure that it will be applicable to Sonia. and you said nothing about the LSAC process which is required by most of the law schools including the one Sonia was talking about.
As far as Cambridge is concerned, don't you know that they allow you to upload all the required documents but such is not the case with U.S. law schools.
it seems to me that you only have partial knowledge about the application process for LL.M. in U.S. law schools.</blockquote>
I applied to Harvard this year; which is considered by many to have the most challenging application. Harvard allows for any other supporting documents (such as TOEFL etc) to be sent at a later date; they will make a conditional offer subject to receiving those documents. So I don't know what do you mean by 'all good schools' because I doubt there is any school that tops Harvard....So you might have to review your knowledge and understanding of the LLM application system
Posted Jan 23, 2015 15:36
first i was only talking about U.S. law schools. Application process is different in U.S.A. as far as Harvard is concerned, Harvard is one of those few colleges which doesn't require one to use services of LSAC. Did you take into account time to give TOEFL, getting the result and also the time taken by ETS to send the result to Harvard? Please feel free to correct me but i am guessing you assumed that the said process has already been completed.
If you read my previous posts I made clear that the question made by Sonia clearly referred only to the actual application process!!! TOEFL results and other documents eg transcripts etc can be sent at a later date not necessarily together with your application! Further to this, if you obtained your degree from an English speaking University then you will not be required to sit TOEFL! So as the question was referring to the application as such hence my reply was directed to the application as well!!
i am sorry for not considering TOEFL as part of actual application process. Unless the law school receives all of your relevant documents including TOEFL score report, your file won't be considered as complete by the deadline. and i don't know which schools you are talking about, but all the documents are required along with application by most of the schools or at least good schools including the one Sonia was talking about. even i know about the exemption clause but how can you be 100 percent sure that it will be applicable to Sonia. and you said nothing about the LSAC process which is required by most of the law schools including the one Sonia was talking about.
As far as Cambridge is concerned, don't you know that they allow you to upload all the required documents but such is not the case with U.S. law schools.
it seems to me that you only have partial knowledge about the application process for LL.M. in U.S. law schools.
I applied to Harvard this year; which is considered by many to have the most challenging application. Harvard allows for any other supporting documents (such as TOEFL etc) to be sent at a later date; they will make a conditional offer subject to receiving those documents. So I don't know what do you mean by 'all good schools' because I doubt there is any school that tops Harvard....So you might have to review your knowledge and understanding of the LLM application system
Good for you man! but then i am guessing that you have assumed that the process in Harvard is same as in all other law schools.and it was never about how prestigious a school was.
</blockquote>
If you read my previous posts I made clear that the question made by Sonia clearly referred only to the actual application process!!! TOEFL results and other documents eg transcripts etc can be sent at a later date not necessarily together with your application! Further to this, if you obtained your degree from an English speaking University then you will not be required to sit TOEFL! So as the question was referring to the application as such hence my reply was directed to the application as well!!</blockquote>
i am sorry for not considering TOEFL as part of actual application process. Unless the law school receives all of your relevant documents including TOEFL score report, your file won't be considered as complete by the deadline. and i don't know which schools you are talking about, but all the documents are required along with application by most of the schools or at least good schools including the one Sonia was talking about. even i know about the exemption clause but how can you be 100 percent sure that it will be applicable to Sonia. and you said nothing about the LSAC process which is required by most of the law schools including the one Sonia was talking about.
As far as Cambridge is concerned, don't you know that they allow you to upload all the required documents but such is not the case with U.S. law schools.
it seems to me that you only have partial knowledge about the application process for LL.M. in U.S. law schools.</blockquote>
I applied to Harvard this year; which is considered by many to have the most challenging application. Harvard allows for any other supporting documents (such as TOEFL etc) to be sent at a later date; they will make a conditional offer subject to receiving those documents. So I don't know what do you mean by 'all good schools' because I doubt there is any school that tops Harvard....So you might have to review your knowledge and understanding of the LLM application system</blockquote>
Good for you man! but then i am guessing that you have assumed that the process in Harvard is same as in all other law schools.and it was never about how prestigious a school was.
Posted Jan 23, 2015 15:41
first i was only talking about U.S. law schools. Application process is different in U.S.A. as far as Harvard is concerned, Harvard is one of those few colleges which doesn't require one to use services of LSAC. Did you take into account time to give TOEFL, getting the result and also the time taken by ETS to send the result to Harvard? Please feel free to correct me but i am guessing you assumed that the said process has already been completed.
Posted Jan 23, 2015 15:41
this is what website of Harvard says:
"In addition to submitting the online LL.M. application by the deadline, applicants must make sure that any other required documents (e.g., transcripts, TOEFL results) are sent out in time for delivery to our office on or before the deadline. Please note that the application deadline will be strictly observed. It is your responsibility to make certain that all required materials reach the Graduate Program office by the deadline."
and this is what website of Harvard says about late submission of documents:
"Yes, your application will be reviewed even if some of your materials (e.g. transcripts, LSAC reports, TOEFL score reports, etc.) are not received by December 1. However, you will be at a disadvantage compared to other applicants who have submitted all of their application materials by the deadline."
i don't see the above quote as part of normal application process. and are you saying on record that the above mentioned process is similar for all law schools in U.S.?
"In addition to submitting the online LL.M. application by the deadline, applicants must make sure that any other required documents (e.g., transcripts, TOEFL results) are sent out in time for delivery to our office on or before the deadline. Please note that the application deadline will be strictly observed. It is your responsibility to make certain that all required materials reach the Graduate Program office by the deadline."
and this is what website of Harvard says about late submission of documents:
"Yes, your application will be reviewed even if some of your materials (e.g. transcripts, LSAC reports, TOEFL score reports, etc.) are not received by December 1. However, you will be at a disadvantage compared to other applicants who have submitted all of their application materials by the deadline."
i don't see the above quote as part of normal application process. and are you saying on record that the above mentioned process is similar for all law schools in U.S.?
Posted Jan 23, 2015 15:44
this is what website of Harvard says:
"In addition to submitting the online LL.M. application by the deadline, applicants must make sure that any other required documents (e.g., transcripts, TOEFL results) are sent out in time for delivery to our office on or before the deadline. Please note that the application deadline will be strictly observed. It is your responsibility to make certain that all required materials reach the Graduate Program office by the deadline."
I still need to sent Harvard a document, I contacted them and even though this is what is states in their site they told me to send it whenever i want and that I will suffer no disadvantage!!!!
and this is what website of Harvard says about late submission of documents:
"Yes, your application will be reviewed even if some of your materials (e.g. transcripts, LSAC reports, TOEFL score reports, etc.) are not received by December 1. However, you will be at a disadvantage compared to other applicants who have submitted all of their application materials by the deadline."
i don't see the above quote as part of normal application process. and are you saying on record that the above mentioned process is similar for all law schools in U.S.?
"In addition to submitting the online LL.M. application by the deadline, applicants must make sure that any other required documents (e.g., transcripts, TOEFL results) are sent out in time for delivery to our office on or before the deadline. Please note that the application deadline will be strictly observed. It is your responsibility to make certain that all required materials reach the Graduate Program office by the deadline."
I still need to sent Harvard a document, I contacted them and even though this is what is states in their site they told me to send it whenever i want and that I will suffer no disadvantage!!!!
and this is what website of Harvard says about late submission of documents:
"Yes, your application will be reviewed even if some of your materials (e.g. transcripts, LSAC reports, TOEFL score reports, etc.) are not received by December 1. However, you will be at a disadvantage compared to other applicants who have submitted all of their application materials by the deadline."
i don't see the above quote as part of normal application process. and are you saying on record that the above mentioned process is similar for all law schools in U.S.?</blockquote>
Posted Jan 24, 2015 18:16
Dear Sonia,
Many college's deadline are already closed, however this does not mean it is impossible to start your applications now. Although it may sound extremely optimistic, but its not impossible. I have been in a similar situation myself.
First, you need to figure out which Universities you wish to apply based on your area of interest, preferred city, ranking, US or UK etc.
There are many colleges (not the topmost but decently good) which have deadlines till March - April, some even till June.
For most of the colleges, you definitely need these 5 documents:
1. Transcripts
2. Letter of Recommendations
3. TOEFL/ IELTS Score or Waiver
4. Statement of Purpose
5. Resume/ CV
All of this can be either sent individually to each college or collectively through LSAC (preferred).
Other documents vary from college to college.
Hope this helps !
Many college's deadline are already closed, however this does not mean it is impossible to start your applications now. Although it may sound extremely optimistic, but its not impossible. I have been in a similar situation myself.
First, you need to figure out which Universities you wish to apply based on your area of interest, preferred city, ranking, US or UK etc.
There are many colleges (not the topmost but decently good) which have deadlines till March - April, some even till June.
For most of the colleges, you definitely need these 5 documents:
1. Transcripts
2. Letter of Recommendations
3. TOEFL/ IELTS Score or Waiver
4. Statement of Purpose
5. Resume/ CV
All of this can be either sent individually to each college or collectively through LSAC (preferred).
Other documents vary from college to college.
Hope this helps !
Posted Jan 25, 2015 04:30
Dear Kan,
I do appreciated your response to my note. It is so nice to know that there are good people out there like you that are willing to help. :)
I already figured out the schools I wish to apply, but it does seems so overwhelming to go trough this process without knowing If everything is going to be done right, I mean the way the schools want the whole process.
I don't want to burn my chances. I do want to make sure that I will have one of the best applications along with all the documents, TOEFL scores and etc.
You said that you were in similar situation yourself, and share with me what you did in order to still send your applications when the deadlines were over.
Does the LSAC responsible to get all of your documents and send them to every school you applied?
I am lost, since I don't know what to do to get these letters form my teachers. I graduated in 2001, and I have not seen or talked to them in years, and I not even know how could they right a letter to me when so many years has passed. They probably don't remember me anymore. What should I do?
The other things is, if the letter of recommendation have to be sent to LSAC completely sealed by my law school, how can I provide the translations of them If I don't have them? I must be missing something, am I?
Please, please help me my dear virtual friends to understand the whole process. For you guys that has been on my place is a piece of cake now, but for me it is such a big deal. :(
Anyway, any input and help is really appreciated. Thanks a lot.
I do appreciated your response to my note. It is so nice to know that there are good people out there like you that are willing to help. :)
I already figured out the schools I wish to apply, but it does seems so overwhelming to go trough this process without knowing If everything is going to be done right, I mean the way the schools want the whole process.
I don't want to burn my chances. I do want to make sure that I will have one of the best applications along with all the documents, TOEFL scores and etc.
You said that you were in similar situation yourself, and share with me what you did in order to still send your applications when the deadlines were over.
Does the LSAC responsible to get all of your documents and send them to every school you applied?
I am lost, since I don't know what to do to get these letters form my teachers. I graduated in 2001, and I have not seen or talked to them in years, and I not even know how could they right a letter to me when so many years has passed. They probably don't remember me anymore. What should I do?
The other things is, if the letter of recommendation have to be sent to LSAC completely sealed by my law school, how can I provide the translations of them If I don't have them? I must be missing something, am I?
Please, please help me my dear virtual friends to understand the whole process. For you guys that has been on my place is a piece of cake now, but for me it is such a big deal. :(
Anyway, any input and help is really appreciated. Thanks a lot.
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