UC London or FU Berlin?


Hi there, I cannot make up my mind between doing an LLM at UCL (specialisation either competition law or commercial and corporate law) and doing an LLM at FUB (Business, Cometition and Regulatory Law).

I have previously worked in a law firm and we had a few M&A cases and this field seems to be very interesting. I have also worked with unfair trade issues and import/export cases before. Has anyone experience on one of the two (or three) programmes?

How about the city, can someone compare their London and Berlin experience? How is Brexit going to affect me (French) if I apply for 2017/18 and maybe job perspectives afterwards?
Hi there, I cannot make up my mind between doing an LLM at UCL (specialisation either competition law or commercial and corporate law) and doing an LLM at FUB (Business, Cometition and Regulatory Law).

I have previously worked in a law firm and we had a few M&A cases and this field seems to be very interesting. I have also worked with unfair trade issues and import/export cases before. Has anyone experience on one of the two (or three) programmes?

How about the city, can someone compare their London and Berlin experience? How is Brexit going to affect me (French) if I apply for 2017/18 and maybe job perspectives afterwards?
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sunyun
Hi Scotch! I used to look at different London programmes but they are all so expansive! I am looking at the FUB programme but also at programmes in the Netherlands, they can be interesting too! City-wise I believe Berlin is very exciting! Have you applied already?
Hi Scotch! I used to look at different London programmes but they are all so expansive! I am looking at the FUB programme but also at programmes in the Netherlands, they can be interesting too! City-wise I believe Berlin is very exciting! Have you applied already?
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Duncan
Wouldn't a traditional, full-time, academic LLM have advantages over FUB? https://llm-guide.com/board/europe/business-and-competition-berlin-198117

Remember, that course at FUB is not an LLM.

[Edited by Duncan on Apr 08, 2017]

Wouldn't a traditional, full-time, academic LLM have advantages over FUB? https://llm-guide.com/board/europe/business-and-competition-berlin-198117

Remember, that course at FUB is not an LLM.
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sunyun
Thanks :-) Hm, not sure what you mean by "full-time academic" llm? A student described the programme and it seems full-time (and obviously academic)? (here's the discussion https://llm-guide.com/board/europe/business-and-competition-berlin-198117)
Thanks :-) Hm, not sure what you mean by "full-time academic" llm? A student described the programme and it seems full-time (and obviously academic)? (here's the discussion https://llm-guide.com/board/europe/business-and-competition-berlin-198117)
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Hi, Yeah the price is definitely an issue though I am willing to pay for quality education. The discussion you linked is quite interesting, thanks for pointing that out. Which advantages would that be, Duncan? Anyone any news on Brexit and what comes after for lawyers?
Hi, Yeah the price is definitely an issue though I am willing to pay for quality education. The discussion you linked is quite interesting, thanks for pointing that out. Which advantages would that be, Duncan? Anyone any news on Brexit and what comes after for lawyers?
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Duncan
By more full time I mean a programme that is not compatible with employment. The FUB programme is taught in short blocks rather than having the academic programme paced evenly through the week and the academic year. By more academic, I mean a programme taught by academics, with a greater volume of scholarly assessment.
By more full time I mean a programme that is not compatible with employment. The FUB programme is taught in short blocks rather than having the academic programme paced evenly through the week and the academic year. By more academic, I mean a programme taught by academics, with a greater volume of scholarly assessment.
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MBL-FU
Hi everyone, since our programme was linked to this thread, I thought maybe I can provide some answers :-)

So, ScotchEZtape, M&A experience will definitely a big plus for our programme since it's one of the three core concepts of competition/antitrust law. But our programme doesn't end with competition law, we also go into regulatory law (IP, telecommunications, energy) and general trade/investment/business law. When it comes to the city of Berlin, personlly, I love it here, all the benefits of an international metropolitan area but still very affordable and with the countryside not too far away. However, chosing a city to live in is a very personal decision and what works best for me doesn't have to be the ideal decision for you, so maybe just come and visit ;-) When it comes to Brexit, I feel like someone from the UK is better placed to answer, even thought nobody oviously knows for sure what will happen, the best are speculations right now.

Regarding your remarks, Duncan, you're right that we have lectures en bloc. There reason for this is because it works best for our lecturers from the all around the world (UK, Italy, US, France etc.). Many could not take off four days from work (including jetlag!). We are, however, a full-time programme. If you are really planning on working next to the programme, you need serious dedication. We have mandatory reading and e-learning exercises during the week so when you attend the lectures, you need to be prepared. We obviously believe that our mix of practitioners and academics from different universities provides the best mixture to teach our student the real-life skills which are nowadays expected from young professionals. But opinions will always differ what is "ideal" so everyone has mix and match until it fits your personal ideas :-)

Hope I could provide some context!
Hi everyone, since our programme was linked to this thread, I thought maybe I can provide some answers :-)

So, ScotchEZtape, M&A experience will definitely a big plus for our programme since it's one of the three core concepts of competition/antitrust law. But our programme doesn't end with competition law, we also go into regulatory law (IP, telecommunications, energy) and general trade/investment/business law. When it comes to the city of Berlin, personlly, I love it here, all the benefits of an international metropolitan area but still very affordable and with the countryside not too far away. However, chosing a city to live in is a very personal decision and what works best for me doesn't have to be the ideal decision for you, so maybe just come and visit ;-) When it comes to Brexit, I feel like someone from the UK is better placed to answer, even thought nobody oviously knows for sure what will happen, the best are speculations right now.

Regarding your remarks, Duncan, you're right that we have lectures en bloc. There reason for this is because it works best for our lecturers from the all around the world (UK, Italy, US, France etc.). Many could not take off four days from work (including jetlag!). We are, however, a full-time programme. If you are really planning on working next to the programme, you need serious dedication. We have mandatory reading and e-learning exercises during the week so when you attend the lectures, you need to be prepared. We obviously believe that our mix of practitioners and academics from different universities provides the best mixture to teach our student the real-life skills which are nowadays expected from young professionals. But opinions will always differ what is "ideal" so everyone has mix and match until it fits your personal ideas :-)

Hope I could provide some context!
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I think I'll go with Berlin :-) Met up with a friend who did an internship there and asked him about the city and it really sounds brilliant!
I think I'll go with Berlin :-) Met up with a friend who did an internship there and asked him about the city and it really sounds brilliant!
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MBL-FU
Quite an old post but I thought I'd update you guys about a change in the Study and Examination Regulations of the MBL programme. The official title is now "Legum Magister of Business Law (LL.M. MBL)", maybe interesting for Duncan (or others)?

Source: http://www.fu-berlin.de/service/zuvdocs/amtsblatt/2017/ab392017.pdf
Quite an old post but I thought I'd update you guys about a change in the Study and Examination Regulations of the MBL programme. The official title is now "Legum Magister of Business Law (LL.M. MBL)", maybe interesting for Duncan (or others)?

Source: http://www.fu-berlin.de/service/zuvdocs/amtsblatt/2017/ab392017.pdf
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Raphaelaf
Thank you
Thank you
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MBL-FU
These changes will already affect the students who graduated in September last year. So at the graduation ceremony in a few weeks we'll hand out the new certificates ;-)
These changes will already affect the students who graduated in September last year. So at the graduation ceremony in a few weeks we'll hand out the new certificates ;-)
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