foreign LL.B and Canadian LLM prior to NCA


Hi,

I was wondering if anyone can provide information on the following:

I have an LL.B from the UK and I was given 7 NCA exams. I am interested in the field of criminal law and policy work although I do want to practice.

I have spoken to a few universities and they are reluctant to allow people in my position to take the specific NCA courses through their LLMs.

They do offer graduate courses that are more advanced than first year Canadian Criminal or Constitutional Law. But I am not sure if courses like Advanced Criminal Law and Advanced Constitutional Law will be acceptable substitutions for the NCA and they are reluctant to provide an answer.

Has anybody completed an LLM in Canada and then applied to the NCA? Were you able to take NCA courses in the program and how many exams did you get?

If anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated.

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone can provide information on the following:

I have an LL.B from the UK and I was given 7 NCA exams. I am interested in the field of criminal law and policy work although I do want to practice.

I have spoken to a few universities and they are reluctant to allow people in my position to take the specific NCA courses through their LLMs.

They do offer graduate courses that are more advanced than first year Canadian Criminal or Constitutional Law. But I am not sure if courses like Advanced Criminal Law and Advanced Constitutional Law will be acceptable substitutions for the NCA and they are reluctant to provide an answer.

Has anybody completed an LLM in Canada and then applied to the NCA? Were you able to take NCA courses in the program and how many exams did you get?

If anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated.
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Hi,
I am currently in the process of accreditation to practice law in Canada. I am also a newcomer to Canada. The NCA advised me to write 4 NCA exams. I contacted many law schools to explore the option of registering with them, taking classes with them and having them forward my results to the NCA. I discovered that only a few universities accept NCA students. I contacted the University of Toronto and the University of British Columbia and was informed that they would be happy to accept me as a special student.I chose to challenge the exams on my own though at the end of the day because I am in Alberta and I was not in a position at that time to move outside of Alberta.
You must not fail to see that the NCA exams that are allotted to us as NCA students are not graduate level courses. They are mostly courses that are taken at the undergraduate levels in most law faculties across Canada, so you can not send them in as NCA courses. If you go on the FLSC website, you would see that it states in there that if you choose to complete your NCA requirements through a university in Canada, you must have the pre-approval of the NCA for the courses that you will be taking at the university.
I have a few friends here in Alberta who are writing the NCA exams and in LLM programs as well. They are challenging the NCA exams on their own while studying to attain their LLMs. If you prefer to take classes for the allotted NCA subjects, you may want to register as a special student with the universities that accept NCA students. You may want to check out the University of Toronto and the University of British Columbia. These two accept NCA special students but that's all there is to it. You are either a special student with them preparing for the NCA exams or you are an LLM student. I don't think there is really any room to kill two birds with one stone here. I wish you all the very best.

Hi,
I am currently in the process of accreditation to practice law in Canada. I am also a newcomer to Canada. The NCA advised me to write 4 NCA exams. I contacted many law schools to explore the option of registering with them, taking classes with them and having them forward my results to the NCA. I discovered that only a few universities accept NCA students. I contacted the University of Toronto and the University of British Columbia and was informed that they would be happy to accept me as a special student.I chose to challenge the exams on my own though at the end of the day because I am in Alberta and I was not in a position at that time to move outside of Alberta.
You must not fail to see that the NCA exams that are allotted to us as NCA students are not graduate level courses. They are mostly courses that are taken at the undergraduate levels in most law faculties across Canada, so you can not send them in as NCA courses. If you go on the FLSC website, you would see that it states in there that if you choose to complete your NCA requirements through a university in Canada, you must have the pre-approval of the NCA for the courses that you will be taking at the university.
I have a few friends here in Alberta who are writing the NCA exams and in LLM programs as well. They are challenging the NCA exams on their own while studying to attain their LLMs. If you prefer to take classes for the allotted NCA subjects, you may want to register as a special student with the universities that accept NCA students. You may want to check out the University of Toronto and the University of British Columbia. These two accept NCA special students but that's all there is to it. You are either a special student with them preparing for the NCA exams or you are an LLM student. I don't think there is really any room to kill two birds with one stone here. I wish you all the very best.
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canadafsd2

Hello Gays, thanks a lot for the valuable contributions and scholarly advice for this topic.I have done my MSc ,M.A and LLB from pakistan in first Class First in the university in LLB. i intend to apply for LLM at Osgood , ufot and Queen uni Kingston Ontario .My NCA assessment is under process but i am thinking about LLM after passing NCA exams, but i am not sure about my admission in these law schools. i am Canadian citizen and will pay my tuition at domestic rate. please give me your valuable advice in this regard.

Hello Gays, thanks a lot for the valuable contributions and scholarly advice for this topic.I have done my MSc ,M.A and LLB from pakistan in first Class First in the university in LLB. i intend to apply for LLM at Osgood , ufot and Queen uni Kingston Ontario .My NCA assessment is under process but i am thinking about LLM after passing NCA exams, but i am not sure about my admission in these law schools. i am Canadian citizen and will pay my tuition at domestic rate. please give me your valuable advice in this regard.
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SuperFLI

I am interested In moving to canada and just completed a masters and undergraduate course from a uk university. I would like to know however if the NCA is only available to be taken in Canada or whether they have it available in other countries as well? is it generally available outside Canada or only open to certain listed countries?

I am interested In moving to canada and just completed a masters and undergraduate course from a uk university. I would like to know however if the NCA is only available to be taken in Canada or whether they have it available in other countries as well? is it generally available outside Canada or only open to certain listed countries?
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I am interested In moving to canada and just completed a masters and undergraduate course from a uk university. I would like to know however if the NCA is only available to be taken in Canada or whether they have it available in other countries as well? is it generally available outside Canada or only open to certain listed countries?


Hey, my understanding is that you can write them at certain locations in the UK. You'd have to contact them to get more details and still have to send in your application along with the fees.

<blockquote>I am interested In moving to canada and just completed a masters and undergraduate course from a uk university. I would like to know however if the NCA is only available to be taken in Canada or whether they have it available in other countries as well? is it generally available outside Canada or only open to certain listed countries?</blockquote>

Hey, my understanding is that you can write them at certain locations in the UK. You'd have to contact them to get more details and still have to send in your application along with the fees.
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sarahlou

UBC Law is starting distance learning programs (4 to start off with) in September 2014 some of which (e.g. their Criminal Law distance programme - LAW525) are compatible with the NCA requirements. As someone who has gone through 3 of these exams it comes as a huge relief that I can complete my final exam with the structure and feed back of a well established university. The cost per subject is close to $5000 which is quite expensive (but in my opinion well worth it - if anything to stay sane!).

http://www.law.ubc.ca/admissions/law-non-degree-studies/ubc-law-distance-learning-program/distance-learning-program

UBC Law is starting distance learning programs (4 to start off with) in September 2014 some of which (e.g. their Criminal Law distance programme - LAW525) are compatible with the NCA requirements. As someone who has gone through 3 of these exams it comes as a huge relief that I can complete my final exam with the structure and feed back of a well established university. The cost per subject is close to $5000 which is quite expensive (but in my opinion well worth it - if anything to stay sane!).

http://www.law.ubc.ca/admissions/law-non-degree-studies/ubc-law-distance-learning-program/distance-learning-program
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grumpyJD

You might be able to get some more info from the law faculties at Leicester or Birmingham. Lots of Canadians attend there and they are experienced with helping students through the process. I know people who went through it here in Canada and it seems to vary a lot. Some people are assessed more exams than others, etc...

You might be able to get some more info from the law faculties at Leicester or Birmingham. Lots of Canadians attend there and they are experienced with helping students through the process. I know people who went through it here in Canada and it seems to vary a lot. Some people are assessed more exams than others, etc...
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sarahlou

Thanks but my last post was to encourage foreign trained lawyers who would like to practice in British Columbus to check
out this course and the other distance learning programs at UBC (University of British Columbia).

Thanks but my last post was to encourage foreign trained lawyers who would like to practice in British Columbus to check
out this course and the other distance learning programs at UBC (University of British Columbia).
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grumpyJD

Ahhh...I must have been referring to an early post or misread something. The UBC program sounds good because it's organized and structured, I agree. And UBC has a brand new building too. Sorry for being irrelevant- I was mostly here for stress relief while editing a factum :-)

Ahhh...I must have been referring to an early post or misread something. The UBC program sounds good because it's organized and structured, I agree. And UBC has a brand new building too. Sorry for being irrelevant- I was mostly here for stress relief while editing a factum :-)
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sarahlou

No worries

No worries
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Hi everyone,
I am Niharika and have just completed my LLb from India. I am planning to pursue LLM from canada and subsequently give Nca exams to get enrolled in the bar. I am searching for canadian or common law courses so that later when applying for job, I have knowledge and degree on canadian law too. But, my query is that
1. I have not sent an application to Nca before applying for the courses. Should I do that? And what if I first pursue LLm and subsequently apply for Nca would that be wrong? and;
2. can one get permanent residency after getting enrolled in the bar?
Please kindly guide me in relation to my above queries. I am super confused and have no clue which path to take.

Thank you..

Hi everyone,
I am Niharika and have just completed my LLb from India. I am planning to pursue LLM from canada and subsequently give Nca exams to get enrolled in the bar. I am searching for canadian or common law courses so that later when applying for job, I have knowledge and degree on canadian law too. But, my query is that
1. I have not sent an application to Nca before applying for the courses. Should I do that? And what if I first pursue LLm and subsequently apply for Nca would that be wrong? and;
2. can one get permanent residency after getting enrolled in the bar?
Please kindly guide me in relation to my above queries. I am super confused and have no clue which path to take.

Thank you..
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