Hi Justice,
Yes, I agree with you, please see my email id in my prior post to Ketki and send a test email to me.

Hello William,

You are right. In atleast my school we were graded on a separate curve. But my application as a general applicant was approved by CA bar. I think ABA school may have a difference. I am not sure. I did my LL.M from UC Berkeley (Boalt School of Law). I advise you to talk to CA Bar and seek clarification.

The rule and its guideline are new - it only went into effect this academic year. That is why I am drawing attention to it so that no one in the future who is seeking eligibility under the new rule/guideline has any nasty surprises (such as relying on the previous rules).

I don't speak for the Ca. Bar - It is up to each Bar applicant to verify his or her eligibility under the new rules.

My suggestion for myself would be, if I were seeking eligibility under this new rule and guideline, to verify that my program met the requirements of it BEFORE I enrolled.


The school must be ABA or Ca. Bar

Hi Ketki!

I am planning to appear for the CA bar. I am an Indian attorney with 5 yrs of work experience in litigation. Can you please suggest how to go about it? Any coaching or study material or strategy which works. Any help will be highly appreciated.

Thanks!

Can an Indian Company Secretary with other multiple accounting certifications in India and the US apply for writing the NY Bar examination? An Indian Company Secretary course is recognized in India as the equivalent of a Master's Degree in Business Laws and provides for admission to Phd programs in Business Laws.

Hello fellow CS...

I am also a CS. But I also had LL.B from India. Have you done your LL.B? I am doubtful whether you can appear for Bar without a law degree....I have registered for CA Bar. So I am not that familiar with NY Bar. But still I do not think that you can appear for it w/o any law qualification.

Best,
Ketki

Dear Pinz

My law school has sifted through numerous Bar preparation materials, and we find that the www.BarSecrets.com best prepares persons to take the Bar exam because it is the most efficient at doing so. We even have contracted as an institution to grant our students substantially discounted access. Those that choose to take advantage of BarSecrets seem to pass.

Having said this, via a simple google search you will find numerous other bar prep materials. I also think that one size does ot fit all. Learners are stimulated differently and thus one method that works for you may not be the best for another learner. Conclusion- do your research in reviewing example materials to fund what best attracts your interest.

For me, of all the Bar prep products that I have reviewed, Bar Secrets would be the one that I would choose for me because I don't have patience for repetition or outline (regurgitation) models. I learn quickly based on concepts, not on memorization. This is just me. Your technique may be different.

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Do you have any experience with this requirement:

Been awarded a Master of Law degree (LL.M) based on a minimum of twenty (20) semester or equivalent units of legal education that included a minimum of one course in four separate subjects tested on the California Bar Examination of not less than a total of twelve (12) semester or equivalent units. One of the four courses must be Professional Responsibility (...)

As far as I understand this provision, in order to be eligible to take the CA Bar Exam as a general applicant, one must take (i) professional responsibility and (ii) three other courses such as contracts, torts, constitutional law, remedies, wills and succession etc.

Does anyone have any experience with this requirement? I am currently studying in CA (LL.M.), however, I did not take any first year courses (such as torts etc). I therefore doubt that I am eligible to take the CA bar exam which would be bad...

Dear Hannah

The bar counselor at your law school should map you what is exactly necessary for the Cal Bar, and how you can obtain it at your law school. This is the normal practice.

While you have probably reviewed the Ca. Bar website at http://www.calbar.ca.gov/calbar/pdfs/admissions/sf_legal-edu-outside-us.pdf for the required Bar courses - be aware that of the new "Guidelines" when choosing that LLM.

The new Ca. Guidelines require that the law school apply the JD grading standard (normally called a "curve") to the LLM candidates (who are seeking Ca. Bar eligibility): 1.3 "All course work for the degree required by Guideline 1.2(A) and all course work for the legal education required by Guideline 1.2(B) must be graded using the standards the law school uses in grading course work of students in its J.D. degree program." http://calbar.ca.gov/calbar/pdfs/admissions/Outside-Ed-Guidelines.pdf

We have graduated our first class under the new Guidelines and will need to certify for the Ca. Bar eligible candidates that we have graded the LLM students with our JD ones. I alert you because I have heard from two foreign students that some law schools grade the LLMs separate from the JD ones on a LLM scale and that this may be a problem as it is not in compliance iwth the Bar's eligibility requirements. Thus, you should check with your law school that to determine if it is in compliance with the new Guideline 1.3.

Hope this is helpful for you.

I am a Chinese lawyer. with certificate of good standing, I get to sit in California Bar.

To save time and money, you don't have to go back to school to pass it. I had a great tutor who helped me to pass it after 12 months preparation.

You can do it too!