Advance Evaluation of Eligibility for NY Bar Exam


Borderline
Can I ask, why you guys take the bar?

I'm right now asking myself if it is worth to do it.

- 2-3 months learning A LOT
- cost: with housing, living, barbri, exam fee: minimum 7'000 $

In Switzerland nobody cares if you are a NY attorney-at-law. However, the LLM provides you a nice pay increase.

So are you doing the bar just for your ego? Interest? Title?

I'm not really sure if it is worth for me to pay a lot, learn a lot and to pass the bar with a chance of 50% (average rate of foreigners).


This is a good question. I think that the reasons vary on a case by case basis. In my case, I haven't decided yet whether to take the bar or not. For the moment I'll send all the documentation required for the evaluation of eligibility (which is free), and then I'll clear up my mind. If I decide to take the bar, it'll be because, even if my final goal is not to find a job in the US...you never know. Maybe I'll be lucky enough to find a good opportunity, and if I want to catch it I need the bar in NY. Then, even if I come back to Italy and find a job for an American law firm here, if I have the NY bar maybe they can decide to send me one/two years in the American office (this happens pretty often). So, I think it may be useful, after all. But as I said, it basically depends on the goals, dreams, aims of any single person.


I completely agree.

It depends on the area that you practice but I have heard people refer to the NY Bar (and the Hong Kong Bar, as well) as a lawyer's "passport". (I believe it was related to international arbitration.)
<blockquote><blockquote>Can I ask, why you guys take the bar?

I'm right now asking myself if it is worth to do it.

- 2-3 months learning A LOT
- cost: with housing, living, barbri, exam fee: minimum 7'000 $

In Switzerland nobody cares if you are a NY attorney-at-law. However, the LLM provides you a nice pay increase.

So are you doing the bar just for your ego? Interest? Title?

I'm not really sure if it is worth for me to pay a lot, learn a lot and to pass the bar with a chance of 50% (average rate of foreigners).</blockquote>

This is a good question. I think that the reasons vary on a case by case basis. In my case, I haven't decided yet whether to take the bar or not. For the moment I'll send all the documentation required for the evaluation of eligibility (which is free), and then I'll clear up my mind. If I decide to take the bar, it'll be because, even if my final goal is not to find a job in the US...you never know. Maybe I'll be lucky enough to find a good opportunity, and if I want to catch it I need the bar in NY. Then, even if I come back to Italy and find a job for an American law firm here, if I have the NY bar maybe they can decide to send me one/two years in the American office (this happens pretty often). So, I think it may be useful, after all. But as I said, it basically depends on the goals, dreams, aims of any single person. </blockquote>

I completely agree.

It depends on the area that you practice but I have heard people refer to the NY Bar (and the Hong Kong Bar, as well) as a lawyer's "passport". (I believe it was related to international arbitration.)
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thh
I admit that the bar could be some day useful.
But in the moment I'm not sure if I am motivated enough to learn all the stuff. Right now I have my final exams at the University. After the LLM I will have to learn again one year for the Swiss Bar.
I wonder if it is possible to get a clerkship in a US law firm after the LLM. I know it is very hard to find a job without a JD. But I heared there are opportunities to work as a "foreign legal assistant". I don't know the right job name. You would be responsable for legal cases of your home country and translate the documents etc.
I admit that the bar could be some day useful.
But in the moment I'm not sure if I am motivated enough to learn all the stuff. Right now I have my final exams at the University. After the LLM I will have to learn again one year for the Swiss Bar.
I wonder if it is possible to get a clerkship in a US law firm after the LLM. I know it is very hard to find a job without a JD. But I heared there are opportunities to work as a "foreign legal assistant". I don't know the right job name. You would be responsable for legal cases of your home country and translate the documents etc.
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raven
Dear X:

The Board is in receipt of your fax dated March 6, 2011. In regard to the foreign evaluation process the Board recommends that you begin the process 6 months to a one year prior to the examination you intend to take. If you plan to take the July 2012 examination, you should begin to submit you documentation in October or November 2011.


NOTE: Beginning with the February 2011 bar exam, the fee for candidates who qualify for the bar exam based on a program of law study in a foreign country (Section 520.6) is $750.00.


Sincerely,


New York State Board of Law Examiners
Corporate Plaza, Building 3
254 Washington Avenue Extension
Albany, NY 12203-5195
Phone: (518) 453-5990
Dear X:

The Board is in receipt of your fax dated March 6, 2011. In regard to the foreign evaluation process the Board recommends that you begin the process 6 months to a one year prior to the examination you intend to take. If you plan to take the July 2012 examination, you should begin to submit you documentation in October or November 2011.


NOTE: Beginning with the February 2011 bar exam, the fee for candidates who qualify for the bar exam based on a program of law study in a foreign country (Section 520.6) is $750.00.


Sincerely,


New York State Board of Law Examiners
Corporate Plaza, Building 3
254 Washington Avenue Extension
Albany, NY 12203-5195
Phone: (518) 453-5990
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waitgirl
Dear X:

The Board is in receipt of your fax dated March 6, 2011. In regard to the foreign evaluation process the Board recommends that you begin the process 6 months to a one year prior to the examination you intend to take. If you plan to take the July 2012 examination, you should begin to submit you documentation in October or November 2011.


NOTE: Beginning with the February 2011 bar exam, the fee for candidates who qualify for the bar exam based on a program of law study in a foreign country (Section 520.6) is $750.00.


Sincerely,


New York State Board of Law Examiners
Corporate Plaza, Building 3
254 Washington Avenue Extension
Albany, NY 12203-5195
Phone: (518) 453-5990


May I know if the reply is a fax or letter?
<blockquote>Dear X:

The Board is in receipt of your fax dated March 6, 2011. In regard to the foreign evaluation process the Board recommends that you begin the process 6 months to a one year prior to the examination you intend to take. If you plan to take the July 2012 examination, you should begin to submit you documentation in October or November 2011.


NOTE: Beginning with the February 2011 bar exam, the fee for candidates who qualify for the bar exam based on a program of law study in a foreign country (Section 520.6) is $750.00.


Sincerely,


New York State Board of Law Examiners
Corporate Plaza, Building 3
254 Washington Avenue Extension
Albany, NY 12203-5195
Phone: (518) 453-5990
</blockquote>

May I know if the reply is a fax or letter?
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putou
Dear X:

The Board is in receipt of your fax dated March 6, 2011. In regard to the foreign evaluation process the Board recommends that you begin the process 6 months to a one year prior to the examination you intend to take. If you plan to take the July 2012 examination, you should begin to submit you documentation in October or November 2011.


NOTE: Beginning with the February 2011 bar exam, the fee for candidates who qualify for the bar exam based on a program of law study in a foreign country (Section 520.6) is $750.00.


Sincerely,


New York State Board of Law Examiners
Corporate Plaza, Building 3
254 Washington Avenue Extension
Albany, NY 12203-5195
Phone: (518) 453-5990


Raven, thanks for contacting and sharing!!! And congrats on your admission to Harvard!
<blockquote>Dear X:

The Board is in receipt of your fax dated March 6, 2011. In regard to the foreign evaluation process the Board recommends that you begin the process 6 months to a one year prior to the examination you intend to take. If you plan to take the July 2012 examination, you should begin to submit you documentation in October or November 2011.


NOTE: Beginning with the February 2011 bar exam, the fee for candidates who qualify for the bar exam based on a program of law study in a foreign country (Section 520.6) is $750.00.


Sincerely,


New York State Board of Law Examiners
Corporate Plaza, Building 3
254 Washington Avenue Extension
Albany, NY 12203-5195
Phone: (518) 453-5990
</blockquote>

Raven, thanks for contacting and sharing!!! And congrats on your admission to Harvard!
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raven
Dear X:

The Board is in receipt of your fax dated March 6, 2011. In regard to the foreign evaluation process the Board recommends that you begin the process 6 months to a one year prior to the examination you intend to take. If you plan to take the July 2012 examination, you should begin to submit you documentation in October or November 2011.


NOTE: Beginning with the February 2011 bar exam, the fee for candidates who qualify for the bar exam based on a program of law study in a foreign country (Section 520.6) is $750.00.


Sincerely,


New York State Board of Law Examiners
Corporate Plaza, Building 3
254 Washington Avenue Extension
Albany, NY 12203-5195
Phone: (518) 453-5990


May I know if the reply is a fax or letter?


It was actually an Email from:
foreign@nybarexam.org


We could open a facebook group for all of you, who wants to take the bar exam in July 2012.
<blockquote><blockquote>Dear X:

The Board is in receipt of your fax dated March 6, 2011. In regard to the foreign evaluation process the Board recommends that you begin the process 6 months to a one year prior to the examination you intend to take. If you plan to take the July 2012 examination, you should begin to submit you documentation in October or November 2011.


NOTE: Beginning with the February 2011 bar exam, the fee for candidates who qualify for the bar exam based on a program of law study in a foreign country (Section 520.6) is $750.00.


Sincerely,


New York State Board of Law Examiners
Corporate Plaza, Building 3
254 Washington Avenue Extension
Albany, NY 12203-5195
Phone: (518) 453-5990
</blockquote>

May I know if the reply is a fax or letter?</blockquote>

It was actually an Email from:
foreign@nybarexam.org


We could open a facebook group for all of you, who wants to take the bar exam in July 2012.
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Greetings my European Counterparts!

I see that a lot of your posts are re. the NY Bar from places such as Switzerland and other civil law countries, are there any UK LL.B graduates who are thinking of taking the NY Bar?

I would be interested to know! =)
Greetings my European Counterparts!

I see that a lot of your posts are re. the NY Bar from places such as Switzerland and other civil law countries, are there any UK LL.B graduates who are thinking of taking the NY Bar?

I would be interested to know! =)
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putou
Dear X:

The Board is in receipt of your fax dated March 6, 2011. In regard to the foreign evaluation process the Board recommends that you begin the process 6 months to a one year prior to the examination you intend to take. If you plan to take the July 2012 examination, you should begin to submit you documentation in October or November 2011.


NOTE: Beginning with the February 2011 bar exam, the fee for candidates who qualify for the bar exam based on a program of law study in a foreign country (Section 520.6) is $750.00.


Sincerely,


New York State Board of Law Examiners
Corporate Plaza, Building 3
254 Washington Avenue Extension
Albany, NY 12203-5195
Phone: (518) 453-5990


May I know if the reply is a fax or letter?


It was actually an Email from:
foreign@nybarexam.org


We could open a facebook group for all of you, who wants to take the bar exam in July 2012.


that is a good idea!!!
<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>Dear X:

The Board is in receipt of your fax dated March 6, 2011. In regard to the foreign evaluation process the Board recommends that you begin the process 6 months to a one year prior to the examination you intend to take. If you plan to take the July 2012 examination, you should begin to submit you documentation in October or November 2011.


NOTE: Beginning with the February 2011 bar exam, the fee for candidates who qualify for the bar exam based on a program of law study in a foreign country (Section 520.6) is $750.00.


Sincerely,


New York State Board of Law Examiners
Corporate Plaza, Building 3
254 Washington Avenue Extension
Albany, NY 12203-5195
Phone: (518) 453-5990
</blockquote>

May I know if the reply is a fax or letter?</blockquote>

It was actually an Email from:
foreign@nybarexam.org


We could open a facebook group for all of you, who wants to take the bar exam in July 2012.</blockquote>

that is a good idea!!!
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Pinz
Hi All,

I just want to know if anybody from India have applied for this evaluation and what document they have provided for the following:
(d) Accreditation. Submit a written statement from the competent accrediting agency of your foreign government that the law school or schools you attended were recognized by them as qualified and approved throughout your period of study.

Just want to know whether to get this letter from UGC? I am in US, tried to email UGC about the letter, got no reply. If anybody has submitted such letter, please let me know how to get it?

Thanks!
Hi All,

I just want to know if anybody from India have applied for this evaluation and what document they have provided for the following:
•(d) Accreditation. Submit a written statement from the competent accrediting agency of your foreign government that the law school or schools you attended were recognized by them as qualified and approved throughout your period of study.

Just want to know whether to get this letter from UGC? I am in US, tried to email UGC about the letter, got no reply. If anybody has submitted such letter, please let me know how to get it?

Thanks!
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raven
there is a facebook group now:
NY Bar Exam July 2012
there is a facebook group now:
NY Bar Exam July 2012
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BettyChen
Hello everyone,

I feel so lucky that I bumped into this post recently.
I'm going to take LLM this fall and plan to sit for July 2012 NY Bar Exam.

I've submit on-line evaluation and I'm going to mail them supplement materials.

But I got 2 questions:
(1)
If I'm going to mail them the certificate of passing the bar exam in my country, i.e the proof of fulfillment for admission to practice law ,
Do I need to mail them the original one? Or can I just mail them a photocopy of the original one??

(2)
I saw on their website saying that they should receive the official transcript and other materials issued by my law school DIRECTLY from the law school.
Does that mean I should ask my school to send the mail for me or at least I should put school's name and address on the sender's column and then send it out by myself?

I'm really confused...
Thank you guys!!
Hello everyone,

I feel so lucky that I bumped into this post recently.
I'm going to take LLM this fall and plan to sit for July 2012 NY Bar Exam.

I've submit on-line evaluation and I'm going to mail them supplement materials.

But I got 2 questions:
(1)
If I'm going to mail them the certificate of passing the bar exam in my country, i.e the proof of fulfillment for admission to practice law ,
Do I need to mail them the original one? Or can I just mail them a photocopy of the original one??

(2)
I saw on their website saying that they should receive the official transcript and other materials issued by my law school DIRECTLY from the law school.
Does that mean I should ask my school to send the mail for me or at least I should put school's name and address on the sender's column and then send it out by myself?

I'm really confused...
Thank you guys!!
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MarcL
I'm a LLB graduate in the UK and I have forward my online evaluation for the exam in Feburary 2012.
For the proof of fulfillment of the education requirements of admission, what should i submit? I haven't taken the UK Bar Exam yet as I am not looking to practice in the UK.

I have forwarded my transcripts directly from the school and the school falls under the list of accredited schools recognised by the board so I don't need a written statement from a accreditation agency.

Please, if anyone knows, do inform me what to do.. I will be extremely grateful..This process has been extremely frustrating as the New York Exam Board Hotline is not being helpful Thanks!
I'm a LLB graduate in the UK and I have forward my online evaluation for the exam in Feburary 2012.
For the proof of fulfillment of the education requirements of admission, what should i submit? I haven't taken the UK Bar Exam yet as I am not looking to practice in the UK.

I have forwarded my transcripts directly from the school and the school falls under the list of accredited schools recognised by the board so I don't need a written statement from a accreditation agency.

Please, if anyone knows, do inform me what to do.. I will be extremely grateful..This process has been extremely frustrating as the New York Exam Board Hotline is not being helpful Thanks!
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Y.K Thomas
I'm a LLB graduate in the UK and I have forward my online evaluation for the exam in Feburary 2012.
For the proof of fulfillment of the education requirements of admission, what should i submit? I haven't taken the UK Bar Exam yet as I am not looking to practice in the UK.

I have forwarded my transcripts directly from the school and the school falls under the list of accredited schools recognised by the board so I don't need a written statement from a accreditation agency.

Please, if anyone knows, do inform me what to do.. I will be extremely grateful..This process has been extremely frustrating as the New York Exam Board Hotline is not being helpful Thanks!
<blockquote>I'm a LLB graduate in the UK and I have forward my online evaluation for the exam in Feburary 2012.
For the proof of fulfillment of the education requirements of admission, what should i submit? I haven't taken the UK Bar Exam yet as I am not looking to practice in the UK.

I have forwarded my transcripts directly from the school and the school falls under the list of accredited schools recognised by the board so I don't need a written statement from a accreditation agency.

Please, if anyone knows, do inform me what to do.. I will be extremely grateful..This process has been extremely frustrating as the New York Exam Board Hotline is not being helpful Thanks! </blockquote>
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Y.K Thomas
You should have asked the Law School you attended to submit the Transcript directly to the New York State Board of Bar Examiners. It is clearly stated under the rules that the Board does not accept transcript directly from the individual applicants. In addition to the transcript, your law school must include a letter confirming that your LLB is a Qualifying Law Degree (QLD) which allows you to enrol on a professional law course in the UK. I will therefore advise you contact the law school you attended for this purpose and send it to the Board on your behalf. Pls don't forget to give them your BOLE ID and ask them to quote it on your transcript and the letter that confirms that your degree is QLD. I hope this information assists. Good luck!
You should have asked the Law School you attended to submit the Transcript directly to the New York State Board of Bar Examiners. It is clearly stated under the rules that the Board does not accept transcript directly from the individual applicants. In addition to the transcript, your law school must include a letter confirming that your LLB is a Qualifying Law Degree (QLD) which allows you to enrol on a professional law course in the UK. I will therefore advise you contact the law school you attended for this purpose and send it to the Board on your behalf. Pls don't forget to give them your BOLE ID and ask them to quote it on your transcript and the letter that confirms that your degree is QLD. I hope this information assists. Good luck!
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MarcL
You should have asked the Law School you attended to submit the Transcript directly to the New York State Board of Bar Examiners. It is clearly stated under the rules that the Board does not accept transcript directly from the individual applicants. In addition to the transcript, your law school must include a letter confirming that your LLB is a Qualifying Law Degree (QLD) which allows you to enrol on a professional law course in the UK. I will therefore advise you contact the law school you attended for this purpose and send it to the Board on your behalf. Pls don't forget to give them your BOLE ID and ask them to quote it on your transcript and the letter that confirms that your degree is QLD. I hope this information assists. Good luck!


Thanks so much, my university just sent it out ( the additional letter i missed saying its QLD ) its gonna take another 2 weeks to get there, hope I can make it for February though... how do you reckon my chances>?
<blockquote>You should have asked the Law School you attended to submit the Transcript directly to the New York State Board of Bar Examiners. It is clearly stated under the rules that the Board does not accept transcript directly from the individual applicants. In addition to the transcript, your law school must include a letter confirming that your LLB is a Qualifying Law Degree (QLD) which allows you to enrol on a professional law course in the UK. I will therefore advise you contact the law school you attended for this purpose and send it to the Board on your behalf. Pls don't forget to give them your BOLE ID and ask them to quote it on your transcript and the letter that confirms that your degree is QLD. I hope this information assists. Good luck!</blockquote>

Thanks so much, my university just sent it out ( the additional letter i missed saying its QLD ) its gonna take another 2 weeks to get there, hope I can make it for February though... how do you reckon my chances>?
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