Hello.
I'm in as well! I just got the acceptance to IBL. See you guys in 3 months!
BTW anybody from Europe? Just curious if there is a chance to fly together to SIngapure...
take care!

Has anyone thought on the following issues? they worry me, wanted to know what you guys think:

1. Recession: ppl arent getting job- everyone is coming back- Sing' is also very badly hit. I hear ppl didnt even get internships-leave alone jobs;

2. The classes are with undergrads and you are marked with them- i hear from alumni that you have to work 24x7 to keep up your grades at NUS- and if you r like me- no scholarship- then u cant consider doing a part-time job with so much work.

3. in the end- for ppl with no scholarship- thr might be no job- and the burden of a loan to payoff.

Not sure about the job situation to be honest. I will be returning home when the year is over so never looked into employment opportunities in Singapore!

I also do not know anyone who has taken the LLM at NUS so I don't know how many hours of work a week we can expect. Does anyone have any idea what the work load is like?

Hello Everyone!!
I am sorry to interrupting the chain of discussion about the employment scene, but I am getting anxious about the result. I am a 2007 law graduate from India and am currently working in Delhi.
I was wondering if anyone has any idea of the order in which the NUS people are sending out the results? Is it based on the date at which the application was recieved by the university? My applicatio had reached a little late, so I was wondering if my result (either ways) would be declared that much later?
A response would really help me in easing the nail biting tension!!!

Congratulations to everyone who has recieved the confirmation. Hope to meet you guys soon!

Hi Richa,

You should write to Prof. Alan Tan directly. He is super prompt in replying.

Send him a P.M.

His nick is NUSLLM-alantan on this thread.

Hey Neha

Thanks a lot for your prompt response.

Take care

Congratulations for everyone accepted to NUS Law School. I'm now doing LLM here.

As some people may want to know about the learning environment and the size of workloads, my comments are as follows.

The class size here is quite small (for me), max is around 50. And yes, we study with LLB students. They are VERY active in class participation. Although we study with LLB, the grading is separate. Professors here are easy to approach. They are happy to help you :-)

The workload here is quite heavy but manageable. By the end of your academic session, for LL.M. by coursework you will have written at least 25,000 words (exclude what you have to write by hands) for your papers/assignments. Apart from paperwork, you will have to do some exciting assignments such as moot court (for those who study International Commercial Arbitration, Maritime Law, Admiralty Law). However, you don't need to do the dissertation for coursework. But if you would like to do, you can register for the Graduate Research Opportunity. It counts as one subject with four credits. In this regard, you will have to write up to 15,000 words for your dissertation.

The job prospective for foreign lawyers in Singapore nowadays is quite narrow due to the recession. However, it is not difficult if you want to do the internship here. For IBL students, you will be arranged to do the internship at leading law firms or the Supreme Court before your flight to Shanghai. You will also get good allowance which can cover your flight to Shanghai.

Hope this is helpful. If you need any further information, feel free to let me know :)

Hi Everyone!

Got the mail for confirmation in IBL!! Thnx Neha for the suggestion once again!

Hope to see u ppl there! Anyone else going for IBL from India (especially Delhi)?

Does nybody know when tuition must be paid?

I got a mail saying i am selected for Corp and Financial Services and i havent got a scholarship. I was wondering whether to go or not. But i see a lot of ppl here who are ready to go.
I am from India. Sad all my dear friends who applied to NUS have got into IBL and not into Corp and Finance. I will miss them though.My seniors at college who did their LLMs from NUS told me it was a great oppurtunity but jobs are difficult as recession has hit Singapore badly. But UK is worse. Weighing possibilities i think i will be joining you people there in NUS. Congrats everyone who has got into.

richa are you planning to joining the course?

Two of my dear friends have got into IBL and are planning to join. I dont know whether they are posting in this forum as we have nicknames here. Jana and Revathy are their names. Hope you people will meet soon

Hey

Yes at the moment I am planning on joining the course a it appears to be a good learning opportunity and i am hoping that the recession scene would improve by the time we pass out.

@ Shivangi
Hey, I am a 2007 passout from Chandigarh and am currently working in Gurgaon. What about you?

It's great to get to interact with everyone on this forum....

Take Care

Hi Richa and Shivangi,

I'm from Delhi. I too have got IBL. I'm working with a law firm in Delhi right now.. passed out in 2007 from Gurgaon. Hope to c u guys soon :-)

cheers

Hi ppl i am from india and i have got into IBL course

Two of my dear friends have got into IBL and are planning to join. I dont know whether they are posting in this forum as we have nicknames here. Jana and Revathy are their names. Hope you people will meet soon

Hi janardhan..

congratulations!! hope you're joining IBL too... would you like to tell us something more about you?

This is gud....tht makes quite a lot of us from India in the IBL course.....

I cant tell u jana if you are that bad...

I got into corp and ibl.. have to decide which to join.. somebody give me a good opinion.. i am totally confused

sorry in the earlier post i mentioned i got inoto only corp anf finan.. but actually i got into ibl also..

Hi Clamour,

There are several factors that you may well take into consideration.

Subjects-
CFL: The choice of subjects is extremely wide and if you've had prior experience in the corporate field, you'l be able to make more sense of the subjects per se. Even as a graduate student, your work experience should come in quite handy. I say that because I'm expecting my experience in arbitrations to help me out while studying Int'l Commercial Arbitration in the IBL course.

IBL: There are limited subjects, in fact, fixed subjects for ECUPL stay. You might get to take a few picks here n there while in singapore depending upon whether you're from common law background or a civil jurisdiction. However, the course focuses on the international aspect of various laws that come handy in litigation as well as chamber practice- taxation, corp. finance, sale of goods, dispute resolution. I feel it saves you the initial trouble of choosing from a wide platter of 20 odd subjects as offered in CFL.


The cost factor- Needless to say, its all before you. The money that you save in IBL may well be utilised to cover your travelling expenses to Shanghai and basic accomodation (should you choose to stay on ECUPL campus- the rental is around 5000 yuan/ annum, approx S$1000- its a real steal for an expensive place like Shanghai)

Study module- Some of the posts above in this thread stated that certain classes in NUS are held with the LLB students, however, evaluation is done seprarately. I"m sure it's such a unique experience, that you may not get in IBL, perhaps not many other universities for that matter
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On the other hand (i make a wild guess here), IBL class would comprise of people who have already completed their undergrad, and may include quite a few people with prior work experience. Studying in this environment would be competitive at a different level all together. As I say this, I do not in any way doubt the credentials of the undergrad students at NUS- they're a brilliant bunch and I've interacted with a couple of them about a year ago when i visited NUS.

Internship- This is one thing I would keenly look forward to in IBL. I've interned in India, worked with a law firm in India- interning in an int'l law firm, albeit for two weeks will be a different experience alltogether. From what I have gathered, lawyers in singapore firms not only make freshers learn and work, they also instil business building instincts in you and how you can grow in a firm. You wouldn't get a taste of that in CFL to say the least.

Recent devlopment vis-a-vis India- It seems that the LLP bill is in its final stages of becoming a law in India (or may be it already has become, I'm not sure on that). Once that happens, no matter whether you're from CFL or IBL, there will be a positive influence of this on students coming from Singapore and U.K. since LLPs are widely prevalant in both places. Once the markets stabilise and start opening up, the hunt for legal talent will intensify once again as it was happening in the last few years pre- recession. Who knows, the Indian govt might even lift the ban on foreign firms seeking to enter Indian legal market.

So thats that. You've got pies in both hands and I have made a little attempt to give you a fragrance of both- its upto you now as to which flavour tempts you more :-) Take your pick and just remember as a great poet once said

"If what you desire happens, its really good, but if what you desired didn't happen, its even better... cuz there must've been something bigger in store for you"

Cheers!!
p.s. the views expressed above are a purely personal opinion. please feel free to contribute your bouqets and brickbats :-)