LLM in Tsinghua


s-eric
to see our real life in Tsinghua
http://www.xn--fiq.com/blog/2006/06/14/go-tsinghua-video/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqfdhnhgXUw
That's great!
to see our real life in Tsinghua
http://www.xn--fiq.com/blog/2006/06/14/go-tsinghua-video/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqfdhnhgXUw
That's great!
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lawpat
Hey. I am a LL.B student from UK. I am happy to tell you guys that i have been admitted to Tsinghua LLM in Chinese Law.

I got their email on 30th April. The admission staff sounds very nice.

Has anyone heard about his/her result yet?
Hey. I am a LL.B student from UK. I am happy to tell you guys that i have been admitted to Tsinghua LLM in Chinese Law.

I got their email on 30th April. The admission staff sounds very nice.

Has anyone heard about his/her result yet?
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Meiguo JD
Hi lawpat, I am receiving my JD this spring from the Ohio State Moritz College of Law and I'll be enrolling in the Tsinghua LLM program this fall. I've been planning on doing the LLM program for over a year; I spent some time studying in China previously and I'm very excited to return.

I have spoken with a few past Tsinghua LLM students and they all had positive experiences and offered good advice. Feel free to send me a message if you'd like to correspond.

-CJ
Hi lawpat, I am receiving my JD this spring from the Ohio State Moritz College of Law and I'll be enrolling in the Tsinghua LLM program this fall. I've been planning on doing the LLM program for over a year; I spent some time studying in China previously and I'm very excited to return.

I have spoken with a few past Tsinghua LLM students and they all had positive experiences and offered good advice. Feel free to send me a message if you'd like to correspond.

-CJ
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lawpat
Hi lawpat, I am receiving my JD this spring from the Ohio State Moritz College of Law and I'll be enrolling in the Tsinghua LLM program this fall. I've been planning on doing the LLM program for over a year; I spent some time studying in China previously and I'm very excited to return.

I have spoken with a few past Tsinghua LLM students and they all had positive experiences and offered good advice. Feel free to send me a message if you'd like to correspond.

-CJ



Hi CJ, Nice hearing from you. Right~ Ohio State. Thats great. I am doing my final year of my undergrad degree - LLB in University of Durham, UK, and will be having my exams starting next week~!! Wish me luck!

Anyway, I haven't really thought about how long do I actually want to do the LLM in Tsinghua. What are the pros and cons?

U know people who did the LLM before? Really...? I honestly don't know anyone from Beijing or related to Tsinghua. I am from Hong Kong by the way. I have visit BJ though, it was.. about 10 years ago with my family. So, this will be my first time to study in BJ. And no doubt in one of the best Law school in CHINA! Same, i m very excited about it!!!!

Oh, do you watch youtube? I think there are a few videos posted by the 2006 batch. Quite interesting student life.
<blockquote>Hi lawpat, I am receiving my JD this spring from the Ohio State Moritz College of Law and I'll be enrolling in the Tsinghua LLM program this fall. I've been planning on doing the LLM program for over a year; I spent some time studying in China previously and I'm very excited to return.

I have spoken with a few past Tsinghua LLM students and they all had positive experiences and offered good advice. Feel free to send me a message if you'd like to correspond.

-CJ </blockquote>


Hi CJ, Nice hearing from you. Right~ Ohio State. Thats great. I am doing my final year of my undergrad degree - LLB in University of Durham, UK, and will be having my exams starting next week~!! Wish me luck!

Anyway, I haven't really thought about how long do I actually want to do the LLM in Tsinghua. What are the pros and cons?

U know people who did the LLM before? Really...? I honestly don't know anyone from Beijing or related to Tsinghua. I am from Hong Kong by the way. I have visit BJ though, it was.. about 10 years ago with my family. So, this will be my first time to study in BJ. And no doubt in one of the best Law school in CHINA! Same, i m very excited about it!!!!

Oh, do you watch youtube? I think there are a few videos posted by the 2006 batch. Quite interesting student life.
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s-eric
Hey. I am a LL.B student from UK. I am happy to tell you guys that i have been admitted to Tsinghua LLM in Chinese Law.

I got their email on 30th April. The admission staff sounds very nice.

Has anyone heard about his/her result yet?


welcome to Tsinghua
<blockquote>Hey. I am a LL.B student from UK. I am happy to tell you guys that i have been admitted to Tsinghua LLM in Chinese Law.

I got their email on 30th April. The admission staff sounds very nice.

Has anyone heard about his/her result yet?</blockquote>

welcome to Tsinghua
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s-eric
Hi lawpat, I am receiving my JD this spring from the Ohio State Moritz College of Law and I'll be enrolling in the Tsinghua LLM program this fall. I've been planning on doing the LLM program for over a year; I spent some time studying in China previously and I'm very excited to return.

I have spoken with a few past Tsinghua LLM students and they all had positive experiences and offered good advice. Feel free to send me a message if you'd like to correspond.

-CJ


welcome to Tsinghua^^^
<blockquote>Hi lawpat, I am receiving my JD this spring from the Ohio State Moritz College of Law and I'll be enrolling in the Tsinghua LLM program this fall. I've been planning on doing the LLM program for over a year; I spent some time studying in China previously and I'm very excited to return.

I have spoken with a few past Tsinghua LLM students and they all had positive experiences and offered good advice. Feel free to send me a message if you'd like to correspond.

-CJ </blockquote>

welcome to Tsinghua^^^
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Lic.Ani
Hey everyone, I was also accepted to both PKU and Tsinghua and as many of you, currently debating on which program to attend.

My question is this one though, from your posts I understand that it is posible to get an intership while studying in PKU. Is this posible to do while studying in Tsinghua? I'm looking forward to the whole intership experience in China but I'm not too sure about investing 2 full years in Beijing.

Do you guys know wether Tsinghua also helps its students find interships while taking the LLM program?

Also, what's your take on the class schedules of both Universities? I've read about the compulsory classes and what not but I still don't understand wether we'll be in class all day long or however that is going to work.

Thanks a lot

Ani
Hey everyone, I was also accepted to both PKU and Tsinghua and as many of you, currently debating on which program to attend.

My question is this one though, from your posts I understand that it is posible to get an intership while studying in PKU. Is this posible to do while studying in Tsinghua? I'm looking forward to the whole intership experience in China but I'm not too sure about investing 2 full years in Beijing.

Do you guys know wether Tsinghua also helps its students find interships while taking the LLM program?

Also, what's your take on the class schedules of both Universities? I've read about the compulsory classes and what not but I still don't understand wether we'll be in class all day long or however that is going to work.

Thanks a lot

Ani
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I also recently was accepted into the Tsinghua Program. I am currently a JD candidate at Cleveland Marshall College of Law. I am doing the LLM in between my JD degree and will have to return to the US next fall to finish up 1 semester. I will be participating in an intensive language program in Suzhou all summer, let me know if any 08-09 students will be in China this summer and would like to meet up.

Best regards,
Bill

P.S. CJ-- We will definitely have to find a bar where we can watch some Buckeye football this Fall.
I also recently was accepted into the Tsinghua Program. I am currently a JD candidate at Cleveland Marshall College of Law. I am doing the LLM in between my JD degree and will have to return to the US next fall to finish up 1 semester. I will be participating in an intensive language program in Suzhou all summer, let me know if any 08-09 students will be in China this summer and would like to meet up.

Best regards,
Bill

P.S. CJ-- We will definitely have to find a bar where we can watch some Buckeye football this Fall.


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Meiguo JD
Sorry guys, I forgot to check back to this site for a while. Studying for the bar has drastically cut into the time I can spend casually surfing the web ;)

There was recently an exchange about the relative value of LLM degrees in China on the China Law Prof blog:

http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/china_law_prof_blog/ [See posts from 5/21 and 5/25]

And here's a link to a document prepared by the blog's author Professor Clarke:

http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/china_law_prof_blog/files/chinese_llms_for_foreigners_v2.pdf

The document does not have much substantive analysis of the programs, but it is useful to see how some members of the legal community perceive them. With the exception of a few contributors that have personal experience with the programs, most limited their evaluation to whether or not an LLM program would increase one's chances of landing a job at a large US law firm. So from that standpoint this is a very limited analysis. Strangely while everyone seemed to focus on how an LLM program might help (or not help) one get a job, nobody talked about how the skills one develops might help one actually be successful in that job and build a solid US-China practice. Personally I'm more concerned with the latter concern (building a successful practice), and with building hard skills rather than simply building a resume that fits the mold, so I am not too bothered by the overall negative tone of the contributors.

If people have specific questions about the program (such as the question above regarding internships) I would contact Tsinghua directly through the website. I have found the program administrators to be extremely helpful.

http://www.tsinghua.edu.cn/docsn/fxy/english/llm/llmoverview.htm

PS Bill, I'd love to watch OSU football while in China, I hope we can find it. A noon kickoff EST would put us at midnight Saturday night in Beijing. Maybe we can find some other Buckeye fans, as well. We only need four to do O-H-I-O!

PSS If you like the China Law Prof Blog, I also really enjoy reading the China Law Blog: http://chinalawblog.com/

-CJ
Sorry guys, I forgot to check back to this site for a while. Studying for the bar has drastically cut into the time I can spend casually surfing the web ;)

There was recently an exchange about the relative value of LLM degrees in China on the China Law Prof blog:

http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/china_law_prof_blog/ [See posts from 5/21 and 5/25]

And here's a link to a document prepared by the blog's author Professor Clarke:

http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/china_law_prof_blog/files/chinese_llms_for_foreigners_v2.pdf

The document does not have much substantive analysis of the programs, but it is useful to see how some members of the legal community perceive them. With the exception of a few contributors that have personal experience with the programs, most limited their evaluation to whether or not an LLM program would increase one's chances of landing a job at a large US law firm. So from that standpoint this is a very limited analysis. Strangely while everyone seemed to focus on how an LLM program might help (or not help) one get a job, nobody talked about how the skills one develops might help one actually be successful in that job and build a solid US-China practice. Personally I'm more concerned with the latter concern (building a successful practice), and with building hard skills rather than simply building a resume that fits the mold, so I am not too bothered by the overall negative tone of the contributors.

If people have specific questions about the program (such as the question above regarding internships) I would contact Tsinghua directly through the website. I have found the program administrators to be extremely helpful.

http://www.tsinghua.edu.cn/docsn/fxy/english/llm/llmoverview.htm

PS Bill, I'd love to watch OSU football while in China, I hope we can find it. A noon kickoff EST would put us at midnight Saturday night in Beijing. Maybe we can find some other Buckeye fans, as well. We only need four to do O-H-I-O!

PSS If you like the China Law Prof Blog, I also really enjoy reading the China Law Blog: http://chinalawblog.com/

-CJ
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jforsell
I have applied and been accepted at Tsinghua. I received word via email. I have not gotten any snail mail, however. I have sent emails to both the the law school and the grad. school but have not heard back. As anyone gotten a hard copy of the acceptance letter? I also wanted to know if I can get a dorm room before I leave the states? Does anyone have any advice? Thanks
I have applied and been accepted at Tsinghua. I received word via email. I have not gotten any snail mail, however. I have sent emails to both the the law school and the grad. school but have not heard back. As anyone gotten a hard copy of the acceptance letter? I also wanted to know if I can get a dorm room before I leave the states? Does anyone have any advice? Thanks
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Meiguo JD
I would guess that you are conversing via email with Camellia? I would think that she would know when the hard copy acceptances are sent out.

For me, she has been very helpful with setting up the details, such as visa, accommodations, etc.

Best of luck to you, hope to meet you in Beijing this fall.

-CJ
I would guess that you are conversing via email with Camellia? I would think that she would know when the hard copy acceptances are sent out.

For me, she has been very helpful with setting up the details, such as visa, accommodations, etc.

Best of luck to you, hope to meet you in Beijing this fall.

-CJ
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danger
I'm going to Tsinghua in the fall for a semester of the LLM thing before coming back to finish my JD.

I'm stressing out because I have yet to receive any official welcome letter/visa info, etc... and I'm leaving for China in 4 weeks! With Visa issues this summer, I'm worried it's going to be a big mess.

I've contacted Tsinghua via email, but they have been less than impressive -- assuring me that I will receive a welcome package by early July and now being away from July 6-Aug 17th.

Anyone know if I can just apply for a regular visa and change it there? I don't have much faith in their operations.
I'm going to Tsinghua in the fall for a semester of the LLM thing before coming back to finish my JD.

I'm stressing out because I have yet to receive any official welcome letter/visa info, etc... and I'm leaving for China in 4 weeks! With Visa issues this summer, I'm worried it's going to be a big mess.

I've contacted Tsinghua via email, but they have been less than impressive -- assuring me that I will receive a welcome package by early July and now being away from July 6-Aug 17th.

Anyone know if I can just apply for a regular visa and change it there? I don't have much faith in their operations.
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I'm not from Tsinghua (doing my LLM in Peking Uni)
I'm not from Tsinghua (doing my LLM in Peking Uni)
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danger
Thank you for your reply, it was very helpful.

I'm leaving in four weeks to get their early and catch a the tail-end of the olympics.
Thank you for your reply, it was very helpful.

I'm leaving in four weeks to get their early and catch a the tail-end of the olympics.
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I am currently in Suzhou studying Mandarin and I am on a 90 day Visa. I recently talked to Tsinghua and they said I need to goto Hong Kong to get the X-Visa. I believe the law recently changed because of the Olympics. If anyone is in the same position and needs to go to Hong Kong, please let me know. I am planning to go around August 15.
I am currently in Suzhou studying Mandarin and I am on a 90 day Visa. I recently talked to Tsinghua and they said I need to goto Hong Kong to get the X-Visa. I believe the law recently changed because of the Olympics. If anyone is in the same position and needs to go to Hong Kong, please let me know. I am planning to go around August 15.
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horrors10
i have recently obtained the X-visa from hong kong. it takes 4 working days and the application fee is around HK$450. let me know if you want more information. =)
i have recently obtained the X-visa from hong kong. it takes 4 working days and the application fee is around HK$450. let me know if you want more information. =)
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I was planning to go Tuesday, but I only have 2 days. I thought you could pay extra money to get 2 day service. Am I wrong on this? I just need to get back to Suzhou and take my Chinese language exams before I head to Beijing.

Also, is everyone staying at Tsinghua dorms? I am getting an apartment, but would gladly throw in on a 2-3 bedroom if anyone is interested. Either way, I plan on getting one in Wudaokou with satellite TV, so everyone is welcome to come and watch some western TV, especially college football.
I was planning to go Tuesday, but I only have 2 days. I thought you could pay extra money to get 2 day service. Am I wrong on this? I just need to get back to Suzhou and take my Chinese language exams before I head to Beijing.

Also, is everyone staying at Tsinghua dorms? I am getting an apartment, but would gladly throw in on a 2-3 bedroom if anyone is interested. Either way, I plan on getting one in Wudaokou with satellite TV, so everyone is welcome to come and watch some western TV, especially college football.
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horrors10
i think they have 'express' or 'rush' service. you may wish to check this out: http://www.fmcoprc.gov.hk/eng/zgqz/bgfwxx/default.htm

hope this helps.
i think they have 'express' or 'rush' service. you may wish to check this out: http://www.fmcoprc.gov.hk/eng/zgqz/bgfwxx/default.htm

hope this helps.
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horrors10
btw, does anyone know what do we need to watch out for when we go flat hunting in beijing?
btw, does anyone know what do we need to watch out for when we go flat hunting in beijing?
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Meiguo JD
Hi all, I am in Beijing, checking out the Olympics before school begins. I plan to stop by the law school tomorrow, so if anyone has any questions feel free to email me and I'll try to ask and get back to you. My email: cjw12321 (at) yahoo.com. Also, I'm thinking of taking a trip outside of Beijing later this week, either a day trip or maybe to Dalian or Qingdao, so feel free to email me if you're around and interested.

If anyone still has yet to get a visa, I went through a service called visarite (www.visarite.com/), because I was in Ohio and not near any Chinese consulate, and they got an X visa for me in 5 business days. So it's still not too late.

Horrors10, as for apartment hunting, I'd check out http://www.thebeijinger.com/. There are a lot of listings, both for individual apartments or shares. I ultimately decided to live in the Zijing Dormitories at Tsinghua, at least for fall semester. The single rooms there are about 2400 RMB/month, which is less than most of what I saw on the Beijinger. But I'm sure there are good deals out there if you're diligent in your apartment search. I'm guessing that just after the Olympics will likely be a great renter's market, as so many landlords will have rented their units for short terms for the Olympics, so with so much more supply than demand you should be able to talk landlords down in price. Good luck with it.
Hi all, I am in Beijing, checking out the Olympics before school begins. I plan to stop by the law school tomorrow, so if anyone has any questions feel free to email me and I'll try to ask and get back to you. My email: cjw12321 (at) yahoo.com. Also, I'm thinking of taking a trip outside of Beijing later this week, either a day trip or maybe to Dalian or Qingdao, so feel free to email me if you're around and interested.

If anyone still has yet to get a visa, I went through a service called visarite (www.visarite.com/), because I was in Ohio and not near any Chinese consulate, and they got an X visa for me in 5 business days. So it's still not too late.

Horrors10, as for apartment hunting, I'd check out http://www.thebeijinger.com/. There are a lot of listings, both for individual apartments or shares. I ultimately decided to live in the Zijing Dormitories at Tsinghua, at least for fall semester. The single rooms there are about 2400 RMB/month, which is less than most of what I saw on the Beijinger. But I'm sure there are good deals out there if you're diligent in your apartment search. I'm guessing that just after the Olympics will likely be a great renter's market, as so many landlords will have rented their units for short terms for the Olympics, so with so much more supply than demand you should be able to talk landlords down in price. Good luck with it.
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