Hi:
I should introduce myself. I, too, am looking into doing an LLM in an American University. Have gone to law school in Australia.
I'm currently trying to make sense of admission standards and requirements. Does anyone know what GPA a 74 (high Credit) or 75 (Distinction) in Australia would be in the US? I've been told that a 75 is an "A", which is also about a 3.7. Have I been fed the right information?
Also, what GPA do top tier law schools accept for admission to their LLMs?
Thanking you in advance
US GPA
Posted Dec 27, 2008 23:37
I should introduce myself. I, too, am looking into doing an LLM in an American University. Have gone to law school in Australia.
I'm currently trying to make sense of admission standards and requirements. Does anyone know what GPA a 74 (high Credit) or 75 (Distinction) in Australia would be in the US? I've been told that a 75 is an "A", which is also about a 3.7. Have I been fed the right information?
Also, what GPA do top tier law schools accept for admission to their LLMs?
Thanking you in advance
Posted Dec 28, 2008 01:40
Hi:
I should introduce myself. I, too, am looking into doing an LLM in an American University. Have gone to law school in Australia.
I'm currently trying to make sense of admission standards and requirements. Does anyone know what GPA a 74 (high Credit) or 75 (Distinction) in Australia would be in the US? I've been told that a 75 is an "A", which is also about a 3.7. Have I been fed the right information?
Also, what GPA do top tier law schools accept for admission to their LLMs?
Thanking you in advance
Hey there, here are my thoughts and experience (I am from Russia, by the way).
My understanding that if you use LSAC, they make evaluation of your credentials (I think). If I am wrong I hope other members of the forum will correct me.
If you decide to not use LSAC, you may want to have some company evaluate your credentials. You may want to ask adms offices whether 1) they would accept an evaluation report done not by LSAC and whether you need one, and 2)whether they have any preferred evaluation company?
I did not use LSAC. However, I had my credentials evaluated by ECE. ECE made a course-by-course evaluation report that I sent along with my application.. Before sending it, I asked GULC whether GULC would want the report; the answer was positive.
ECE is one of the well-known companies in the US; WES and AACRAO are other pretty well known in the US as well..So you have a few of them to choose from.
I think you should ask adms offices of the law schools before proceeding with evaluation.
I should introduce myself. I, too, am looking into doing an LLM in an American University. Have gone to law school in Australia.
I'm currently trying to make sense of admission standards and requirements. Does anyone know what GPA a 74 (high Credit) or 75 (Distinction) in Australia would be in the US? I've been told that a 75 is an "A", which is also about a 3.7. Have I been fed the right information?
Also, what GPA do top tier law schools accept for admission to their LLMs?
Thanking you in advance
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Hey there, here are my thoughts and experience (I am from Russia, by the way).
My understanding that if you use LSAC, they make evaluation of your credentials (I think). If I am wrong I hope other members of the forum will correct me.
If you decide to not use LSAC, you may want to have some company evaluate your credentials. You may want to ask adms offices whether 1) they would accept an evaluation report done not by LSAC and whether you need one, and 2)whether they have any preferred evaluation company?
I did not use LSAC. However, I had my credentials evaluated by ECE. ECE made a course-by-course evaluation report that I sent along with my application.. Before sending it, I asked GULC whether GULC would want the report; the answer was positive.
ECE is one of the well-known companies in the US; WES and AACRAO are other pretty well known in the US as well..So you have a few of them to choose from.
I think you should ask adms offices of the law schools before proceeding with evaluation.
Posted Dec 28, 2008 02:41
Hi Baby_Luck:
Thanks for the information. Yes, I do know that I need to get them evaluated but I was wondering if anyone had some idea of what GPA they translate to in the US. I'm pretty sure that one of the universities (I have forgotten which one) had on their website that a B or 3.0 in the US was equivalent to a 65% or Credit in Australia, and that this was the admission requirement for acceptance to the LLM.
Anyone with knowledge of Australian and US grades who can enlighten me before I embark on the whole admission procedure? I would really like to know whether a Distinction (or A) is equivalent to a 3.7 or thereabouts, and whether this is a good GPA.
Much appreciated, kind regards
LLM in US
Thanks for the information. Yes, I do know that I need to get them evaluated but I was wondering if anyone had some idea of what GPA they translate to in the US. I'm pretty sure that one of the universities (I have forgotten which one) had on their website that a B or 3.0 in the US was equivalent to a 65% or Credit in Australia, and that this was the admission requirement for acceptance to the LLM.
Anyone with knowledge of Australian and US grades who can enlighten me before I embark on the whole admission procedure? I would really like to know whether a Distinction (or A) is equivalent to a 3.7 or thereabouts, and whether this is a good GPA.
Much appreciated, kind regards
LLM in US
Posted Dec 28, 2008 04:44
Try to look at your class rank. Is a 75 in the top 10%? Top 5%? Either of those are good places to be.
Posted Dec 28, 2008 05:58
I agree with hcase. It's difficult to make a straight conversion from your grades to a US GPA. Do you know how your 75 compares to the rest of your classmates and the rest of law school students in Australia? That information might be helpful.
I believe that the LSAC report will analyze your grades and determine a UGPA score that is passed on to law schools. I think the LSAC report just analyzes your numerical scores and does not factor in the difficulty of your school (compared to other schools). However, many/most law schools will take that into consideration when they look at the report.
Also, it is similarly difficult to convert your grades to a "US GPA." Many schools have varying degrees of difficulty (or even varying grade scales) and a 3.7 at school A may be similar to a 3.3 at school B.
Hope that helps.
I believe that the LSAC report will analyze your grades and determine a UGPA score that is passed on to law schools. I think the LSAC report just analyzes your numerical scores and does not factor in the difficulty of your school (compared to other schools). However, many/most law schools will take that into consideration when they look at the report.
Also, it is similarly difficult to convert your grades to a "US GPA." Many schools have varying degrees of difficulty (or even varying grade scales) and a 3.7 at school A may be similar to a 3.3 at school B.
Hope that helps.
Posted Dec 28, 2008 21:04
The USA standards that I am aware of are the following:
A = 4.0
A- = 3.7
B+ = 3.3
B = 3.0
B- = 2.7
C+ = 2.3
C = 2.0
C- = 1.7
D+ = 1.3
D = 1.0
D- = 0.7
F = 0.0
A lot of law schools in the USA have a bell curve grading system with the middle of the curve (50%) at 3.0 or so. My law school was a tad higher than that (3.05). To crack the top 10% at my school, one needed a 3.62. To crack the top 20%, one needed a 3.48. The top student in my class had a 3.93. The top student in the next year's class had a 3.77. I don't know if this helps you.
A = 4.0
A- = 3.7
B+ = 3.3
B = 3.0
B- = 2.7
C+ = 2.3
C = 2.0
C- = 1.7
D+ = 1.3
D = 1.0
D- = 0.7
F = 0.0
A lot of law schools in the USA have a bell curve grading system with the middle of the curve (50%) at 3.0 or so. My law school was a tad higher than that (3.05). To crack the top 10% at my school, one needed a 3.62. To crack the top 20%, one needed a 3.48. The top student in my class had a 3.93. The top student in the next year's class had a 3.77. I don't know if this helps you.
Posted Dec 29, 2008 01:42
Hi all:
Thank you for your replies. The information was most useful, it does give me some idea.
Another questions, do all law schools use the bell curve of simply hand out marks according to merit. That is, are marks scaled?
Kind regards,
LLM in US
Thank you for your replies. The information was most useful, it does give me some idea.
Another questions, do all law schools use the bell curve of simply hand out marks according to merit. That is, are marks scaled?
Kind regards,
LLM in US
Posted Dec 29, 2008 01:47
oops, sorry, I didn't read the last post properly. Thanks for the information
Kind regards,
LLM in US
Kind regards,
LLM in US
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