Undergraduate GPA/Rank


Rody
To all LLMGuiders out there,

Anyone has an idea how much of a factor is undergraduate (pre-JD/LL.B.) grades and/or rank in determining the success of an LLM application? Are they equally considered alongside law school grades and rank?

Let's say for instance, you have a failing grade before you took law, can it be a dealbreaker for top schools like Yale or Harvard?

Thanks in advance!
To all LLMGuiders out there,

Anyone has an idea how much of a factor is undergraduate (pre-JD/LL.B.) grades and/or rank in determining the success of an LLM application? Are they equally considered alongside law school grades and rank?

Let's say for instance, you have a failing grade before you took law, can it be a dealbreaker for top schools like Yale or Harvard?

Thanks in advance!
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Camford
At Oxford, grades are very important. Oxford concentrates on academic achievement and academic potential. They also look to your references (regarding how you've done academically) and to your writing style through the essay.
At Oxford, grades are very important. Oxford concentrates on academic achievement and academic potential. They also look to your references (regarding how you've done academically) and to your writing style through the essay.
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grisham
Good point. I totally agree grades are the foremost consideration in evaluating applications esp. at the most competitive schools.

I'm also curious as to how undergrad grades play out vis-a-vis law school grades, extracurriculars, references, personal statements, etc.
Good point. I totally agree grades are the foremost consideration in evaluating applications esp. at the most competitive schools.

I'm also curious as to how undergrad grades play out vis-a-vis law school grades, extracurriculars, references, personal statements, etc.
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Camford
Good point. I totally agree grades are the foremost consideration in evaluating applications esp. at the most competitive schools.

I'm also curious as to how undergrad grades play out vis-a-vis law school grades, extracurriculars, references, personal statements, etc.


Personal statements and the CV play less weight for Oxford. Non-academic interests (i.e. extracurricular activities) and work experience essentially have no weight unless it reveals something about future academic potential. See the following extract from https://www.law.ox.ac.uk/admissions/postgraduate/postgraduate-admission-faqs.

What information is relied upon to make admissions decisions?

Academic transcripts, confidential academic recommendations, submitted examples of academic work, and the statement of study plans (for taught programmes), or research proposal (for research programmes). Information about your non-academic interests or professional experience is disregarded except to the extent that it reveals something relevant to future academic achievement.
[quote]Good point. I totally agree grades are the foremost consideration in evaluating applications esp. at the most competitive schools.

I'm also curious as to how undergrad grades play out vis-a-vis law school grades, extracurriculars, references, personal statements, etc.[/quote]

Personal statements and the CV play less weight for Oxford. Non-academic interests (i.e. extracurricular activities) and work experience essentially have no weight unless it reveals something about future academic potential. See the following extract from https://www.law.ox.ac.uk/admissions/postgraduate/postgraduate-admission-faqs.

What information is relied upon to make admissions decisions?

Academic transcripts, confidential academic recommendations, submitted examples of academic work, and the statement of study plans (for taught programmes), or research proposal (for research programmes). Information about your non-academic interests or professional experience is disregarded except to the extent that it reveals something relevant to future academic achievement.
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Margaret99
I'm also curious as to how undergrad grades play out vis-a-vis law school grades, extracurriculars, references, personal statements, etc.


How does it work for JD and AJD? I have read that LSAC CAS considers only the first undergrad course grades, not that of LLB (irrespective of it being a graduate/ second undergrad degree).
[quote]I'm also curious as to how undergrad grades play out vis-a-vis law school grades, extracurriculars, references, personal statements, etc.[/quote]

How does it work for JD and AJD? I have read that LSAC CAS considers only the first undergrad course grades, not that of LLB (irrespective of it being a graduate/ second undergrad degree).
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