UCLA vs. Georgetown


Hi everyone

Do you know where UCLA and Georgetown stand against each other?

Hi everyone

Do you know where UCLA and Georgetown stand against each other?
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RAMP

congrats floridaguy
in accordance with usnews.com georgetown is ranked 14 and UCLA 16

congrats floridaguy
in accordance with usnews.com georgetown is ranked 14 and UCLA 16
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Yeah...I saw that, so it seems to be a really close call. I have heard some people say that it is always best to be in the "Top 15" law schools, have you heard anything about that?

Also, does/should the general ranking of the university as a whole have any influence? I know that UCLA has a higher ranking overall as a university than Georgetown has, but they are really really close when it comes to the law school ranking.

Yeah...I saw that, so it seems to be a really close call. I have heard some people say that it is always best to be in the "Top 15" law schools, have you heard anything about that?

Also, does/should the general ranking of the university as a whole have any influence? I know that UCLA has a higher ranking overall as a university than Georgetown has, but they are really really close when it comes to the law school ranking.
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RAMP

i heard that as a "general rule" the best recommendation is to be in the Top 20 Law Schools
in accordance with the World Universities Ranking 2008, UCLA is ranked 30 and Georgetown 110, it is a big difference, so, i think that overall, UCLA is best ranked and well known univ than Georgetown

i heard that as a "general rule" the best recommendation is to be in the Top 20 Law Schools
in accordance with the World Universities Ranking 2008, UCLA is ranked 30 and Georgetown 110, it is a big difference, so, i think that overall, UCLA is best ranked and well known univ than Georgetown
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mav09

This is a very tough decision.
One has to consider that Georgetown has had more than 100 years of establishment and UCLA has been in operation for the last 50 years or so.
Georgetown accepts almost 350 candidates for its LLM program whereas UCLA accepts only 55 and thus may be more selective however the same may not be reflective of the quality of the applicants.
Georgetown is in Washington DC which is capital of USA and offers a lot more networking opportunities and is almost recession proof whereas California is currently in dumps due to a strong recession and with unemployment rate as strong as 9.3% and with a deficit of more than 42 Billion dollars.
UCLA is one of the best schools for LLM in Entertainment law and at the same time its business law specialization is ranked higher than that of Georgetown however Georgetown offers unparalleled education in Clinical methods, Tax Laws and International Laws.
So faculty wise both schools have their strengths.
Like many others, I am in a fix right now, unless I hear from UPenn soon enough.
Now we have another aspect to consider which is a post by RAMP that would one go for overall ranking of a university or specific ranking of a university in terms of a specific graduates program?
I look forward to hearing from you all.
Please keep your posts coming which will help a lot of souls to decide where to go and what to choose.

This is a very tough decision.
One has to consider that Georgetown has had more than 100 years of establishment and UCLA has been in operation for the last 50 years or so.
Georgetown accepts almost 350 candidates for its LLM program whereas UCLA accepts only 55 and thus may be more selective however the same may not be reflective of the quality of the applicants.
Georgetown is in Washington DC which is capital of USA and offers a lot more networking opportunities and is almost recession proof whereas California is currently in dumps due to a strong recession and with unemployment rate as strong as 9.3% and with a deficit of more than 42 Billion dollars.
UCLA is one of the best schools for LLM in Entertainment law and at the same time its business law specialization is ranked higher than that of Georgetown however Georgetown offers unparalleled education in Clinical methods, Tax Laws and International Laws.
So faculty wise both schools have their strengths.
Like many others, I am in a fix right now, unless I hear from UPenn soon enough.
Now we have another aspect to consider which is a post by RAMP that would one go for overall ranking of a university or specific ranking of a university in terms of a specific graduates program?
I look forward to hearing from you all.
Please keep your posts coming which will help a lot of souls to decide where to go and what to choose.

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isradv

But what field do you wish to concentrate on your LL.M, Tax? Buisness? Entertainment? I think that's the most important thing about it all.

But what field do you wish to concentrate on your LL.M, Tax? Buisness? Entertainment? I think that's the most important thing about it all.
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smartjerry

Did you get any grants or scholarships?

Did you get any grants or scholarships?
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Isthatso

What do you think about UCLA vs. UChicago?

What do you think about UCLA vs. UChicago?
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mav09

UChicago any day better than UCLA
Can I request fellow posters to stick to the subject being dealt here.
Let's debate the pros and cons of GULC and UCLA.
why should one go the either of these and what the advantages of each LLM program.
Whether overall ranking should be taken into account or the law rankings should be considered?
I know that UCLA's Business Law is ranked better than GULC's Business law and since I am taking up International Business and Economic Law( almost same as Business law program at UCLA) at GULC which is a fairly new program introduced last year, what should be the right choice?
The point is that sometimes it is debated that UCLA will offer opportunities mainly in California and other regions in the west coast and may not have a wider reach such as the one offered by GULC at Washington DC where the exposure is truly international and generally interaction with International institutions is much more.
Further 350 Lawyers at GULC also implies that class sizes may be bigger but usually do not exceed more than 50 to 60 students, However due to the LLM community being fairly large, it will offer much more opportunities for networking than UCLA where class sizes are considerably smaller taking into account the fact that 50 to 55 LLM students are the average intake every year.

Another factor being LLM centered Job Fairs which is organized by UCLA, can we have some light on this please. Can somebody elaborate how many LLM alumni manage or have managed to find a job on account of the Job fair.

I think there are many factors that one needs to consider at this point of time.
Let's keep the discussion going.

UChicago any day better than UCLA
Can I request fellow posters to stick to the subject being dealt here.
Let's debate the pros and cons of GULC and UCLA.
why should one go the either of these and what the advantages of each LLM program.
Whether overall ranking should be taken into account or the law rankings should be considered?
I know that UCLA's Business Law is ranked better than GULC's Business law and since I am taking up International Business and Economic Law( almost same as Business law program at UCLA) at GULC which is a fairly new program introduced last year, what should be the right choice?
The point is that sometimes it is debated that UCLA will offer opportunities mainly in California and other regions in the west coast and may not have a wider reach such as the one offered by GULC at Washington DC where the exposure is truly international and generally interaction with International institutions is much more.
Further 350 Lawyers at GULC also implies that class sizes may be bigger but usually do not exceed more than 50 to 60 students, However due to the LLM community being fairly large, it will offer much more opportunities for networking than UCLA where class sizes are considerably smaller taking into account the fact that 50 to 55 LLM students are the average intake every year.

Another factor being LLM centered Job Fairs which is organized by UCLA, can we have some light on this please. Can somebody elaborate how many LLM alumni manage or have managed to find a job on account of the Job fair.

I think there are many factors that one needs to consider at this point of time.
Let's keep the discussion going.


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mav09

anyone??????????????????

anyone??????????????????
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uganda

I think Gtown is far better than UCLA.
UCLA vs Chicago?? was that a joke?

I think Gtown is far better than UCLA.
UCLA vs Chicago?? was that a joke?
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smartjerry

Further 350 Lawyers at GULC also implies that class sizes may be bigger but usually do not exceed more than 50 to 60 students, However due to the LLM community being fairly large, it will offer much more opportunities for networking than UCLA where class sizes are considerably smaller taking into account the fact that 50 to 55 LLM students are the average intake every year.


well, i don't think bigger class offers better chance for networking.

my high school class has 50 students, and my college calss has around 200. More than half of the 50 high school classmates are still in connection with me, while I now keep in touch with less than 10 people from my college class -- of course it's partially because I'm not an active person. But I think one has less interaction with his classmates in a large program.

another point is, since CA is in huge depression now, maybe grads from UCLA can hardly find decent jobs there? i think GULC might be safer for job placements in this bad market.

<blockquote>Further 350 Lawyers at GULC also implies that class sizes may be bigger but usually do not exceed more than 50 to 60 students, However due to the LLM community being fairly large, it will offer much more opportunities for networking than UCLA where class sizes are considerably smaller taking into account the fact that 50 to 55 LLM students are the average intake every year.</blockquote>

well, i don't think bigger class offers better chance for networking.

my high school class has 50 students, and my college calss has around 200. More than half of the 50 high school classmates are still in connection with me, while I now keep in touch with less than 10 people from my college class -- of course it's partially because I'm not an active person. But I think one has less interaction with his classmates in a large program.

another point is, since CA is in huge depression now, maybe grads from UCLA can hardly find decent jobs there? i think GULC might be safer for job placements in this bad market.
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