Tax LLM 2013 Admissions


Ok guys, I am in at UF, Georgetown, and NYU. Where should I go?

Full disclosure and facts:

I am from the DC Area and want to work in DC. Also, all my contacts and internship experiences have been in DC. Plus, my parents are still there and they have a one-bedroom apartment detached from the house that I can stay in for free in North Arlington near Ballston (for those familiar).

BUT:

I am a Virginia resident, so I would get in-state tuition at Florida through the Academic Common Market as Virginia (the state) does not have a Tasx LL.M. program. For those of you wondering, in state at UF is dirt cheap and living in FL is not that expensive, especially compared to DC and NY.

I really have no interest in living and or working in New York. I love my hometown, but NYU is clearly the #1 program in the land. However, with cost of living NYU is essentially a $100,000 decision. Whereas, I would literally only have to pay the about $50,000 to go to G-town.

Any help is appreciated guys. Thanks.
Ok guys, I am in at UF, Georgetown, and NYU. Where should I go?

Full disclosure and facts:

I am from the DC Area and want to work in DC. Also, all my contacts and internship experiences have been in DC. Plus, my parents are still there and they have a one-bedroom apartment detached from the house that I can stay in for free in North Arlington near Ballston (for those familiar).

BUT:

I am a Virginia resident, so I would get in-state tuition at Florida through the Academic Common Market as Virginia (the state) does not have a Tasx LL.M. program. For those of you wondering, in state at UF is dirt cheap and living in FL is not that expensive, especially compared to DC and NY.

I really have no interest in living and or working in New York. I love my hometown, but NYU is clearly the #1 program in the land. However, with cost of living NYU is essentially a $100,000 decision. Whereas, I would literally only have to pay the about $50,000 to go to G-town.

Any help is appreciated guys. Thanks.
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CSJTax
Ok guys, I am in at UF, Georgetown, and NYU. Where should I go?

Full disclosure and facts:

I am from the DC Area and want to work in DC. Also, all my contacts and internship experiences have been in DC. Plus, my parents are still there and they have a one-bedroom apartment detached from the house that I can stay in for free in North Arlington near Ballston (for those familiar).

BUT:

I am a Virginia resident, so I would get in-state tuition at Florida through the Academic Common Market as Virginia (the state) does not have a Tasx LL.M. program. For those of you wondering, in state at UF is dirt cheap and living in FL is not that expensive, especially compared to DC and NY.

I really have no interest in living and or working in New York. I love my hometown, but NYU is clearly the #1 program in the land. However, with cost of living NYU is essentially a $100,000 decision. Whereas, I would literally only have to pay the about $50,000 to go to G-town.

Any help is appreciated guys. Thanks.


That's a tough one--Obviously UF is the best choice for you economically and it's ranked higher than GULC. US News & World Report last year ranked the Tax LLM programs as:
#1 - NYU
#2 - UF
#3 - GULC

If you can get a top degree and pay next to nothing (comparably), UF sounds like the best. And living in Florida for a year is appealing if you're tired of mid-Atlantic winters.

I also live in DC area and am considering NYU because I can take the train up two or three times a week and still live in DC. Get all of my classes on the same two or three days per week and study on the train. A lot of travel, but studying on the train and still getting the #1 Tax LLM in the country is appealing.

Regardless, congrats on all three acceptances. This is a good problem to have!!
<blockquote>Ok guys, I am in at UF, Georgetown, and NYU. Where should I go?

Full disclosure and facts:

I am from the DC Area and want to work in DC. Also, all my contacts and internship experiences have been in DC. Plus, my parents are still there and they have a one-bedroom apartment detached from the house that I can stay in for free in North Arlington near Ballston (for those familiar).

BUT:

I am a Virginia resident, so I would get in-state tuition at Florida through the Academic Common Market as Virginia (the state) does not have a Tasx LL.M. program. For those of you wondering, in state at UF is dirt cheap and living in FL is not that expensive, especially compared to DC and NY.

I really have no interest in living and or working in New York. I love my hometown, but NYU is clearly the #1 program in the land. However, with cost of living NYU is essentially a $100,000 decision. Whereas, I would literally only have to pay the about $50,000 to go to G-town.

Any help is appreciated guys. Thanks. </blockquote>

That's a tough one--Obviously UF is the best choice for you economically and it's ranked higher than GULC. US News & World Report last year ranked the Tax LLM programs as:
#1 - NYU
#2 - UF
#3 - GULC

If you can get a top degree and pay next to nothing (comparably), UF sounds like the best. And living in Florida for a year is appealing if you're tired of mid-Atlantic winters.

I also live in DC area and am considering NYU because I can take the train up two or three times a week and still live in DC. Get all of my classes on the same two or three days per week and study on the train. A lot of travel, but studying on the train and still getting the #1 Tax LLM in the country is appealing.

Regardless, congrats on all three acceptances. This is a good problem to have!!
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CPAJD
Well, I'm in at Florida now too...so I guess I have a decision to make like the rest of you
Well, I'm in at Florida now too...so I guess I have a decision to make like the rest of you
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CSJTax
Well, I'm in at Florida now too...so I guess I have a decision to make like the rest of you


Nice.
<blockquote>Well, I'm in at Florida now too...so I guess I have a decision to make like the rest of you</blockquote>

Nice.
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azarn21
Did anyone of you who got into to NYU or GULC graduate from a fourth tier law school? I graduated from a fourth tier in the top 13% of my class and im thinking about applying to these programs. ive been doing business litigation since i graduated in 2010. Wanted to see if there are others like me out there who had success in getting into these programs.

thanks!
Did anyone of you who got into to NYU or GULC graduate from a fourth tier law school? I graduated from a fourth tier in the top 13% of my class and im thinking about applying to these programs. ive been doing business litigation since i graduated in 2010. Wanted to see if there are others like me out there who had success in getting into these programs.

thanks!
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pedro1121
Go for it!. I'm not sure if my school is tier three or four, but I made it into both. It's worth the price of the application, especially if you have prior experience. With your grades, it just might depend on how you demonstrate your interest in tax.
Go for it!. I'm not sure if my school is tier three or four, but I made it into both. It's worth the price of the application, especially if you have prior experience. With your grades, it just might depend on how you demonstrate your interest in tax.
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azarn21
Thx! Do you think it's better to wait for next year as this admissions cycle is close to the end. I haven't letters together and I'm working on my personal statement. I am worried if I apply and get rejected then re applying doesn't look good. If anyone has any comments it would be much appreciated. Thx
Thx! Do you think it's better to wait for next year as this admissions cycle is close to the end. I haven't letters together and I'm working on my personal statement. I am worried if I apply and get rejected then re applying doesn't look good. If anyone has any comments it would be much appreciated. Thx
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pedro1121
I'd say it depends on your time frame. If there is no rush, there is no need to turn in a less than stellar application if you truly want to go to the best school. Plus, depending on your firm, is it possible to seek out extra work on tax issues. That way you could work on your resume and tighten it up over the next year, while gaining tax experience that you can then use in your personal statement to solidy your interest in tax. Hopefully that helps. Good luck on whatever you decide.
I'd say it depends on your time frame. If there is no rush, there is no need to turn in a less than stellar application if you truly want to go to the best school. Plus, depending on your firm, is it possible to seek out extra work on tax issues. That way you could work on your resume and tighten it up over the next year, while gaining tax experience that you can then use in your personal statement to solidy your interest in tax. Hopefully that helps. Good luck on whatever you decide.
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NYULLMTAX
I just got GULC admission package. Anyone know when we should expect to see the scholarship packages?
I just got GULC admission package. Anyone know when we should expect to see the scholarship packages?
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pedro1121
Wondering the same thing here NYULLMTAX. Have you seen any packages from NYU either?
Wondering the same thing here NYULLMTAX. Have you seen any packages from NYU either?
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Tetr4
I am an international student from Brazil. So far I got accepted to GULC, UF and LSE. Today I e-mailed Northwestern asking them about the timeframe for the tax decisions, and they said it will take another week or two.

I still haven't received information from GULC scholarships, but as a Latin American I am eligible to the in-state tuition at UF.
I am an international student from Brazil. So far I got accepted to GULC, UF and LSE. Today I e-mailed Northwestern asking them about the timeframe for the tax decisions, and they said it will take another week or two.

I still haven't received information from GULC scholarships, but as a Latin American I am eligible to the in-state tuition at UF.
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NYULLMTAX
Well, I got a package from NYU but contents were missing, as USPS managed to destroy the envelope and the contents were lost in transit. I received an acceptance email already, so I just need to get the admission package from NYU. Georgetown package seemed very nice.
Well, I got a package from NYU but contents were missing, as USPS managed to destroy the envelope and the contents were lost in transit. I received an acceptance email already, so I just need to get the admission package from NYU. Georgetown package seemed very nice.
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sfp5005
Where should I apply to?/What are my chances of getting in?

I really want to do tax planning for businesses (preferably small and medium size businesses).


T-4 School
GPA: 3.01
Rank: Top 45%
Tax Grades: Federal Estate and Gift Tax: B+; Federal Income Tax: B+; Business Tax (Corp/SCorp/Partnership): IN progress
Work Experience: Through Internship: Estate Planning
Extra Curricular/Other: Full tuition scholarship to JD program. ADR society.
Where should I apply to?/What are my chances of getting in?

I really want to do tax planning for businesses (preferably small and medium size businesses).


T-4 School
GPA: 3.01
Rank: Top 45%
Tax Grades: Federal Estate and Gift Tax: B+; Federal Income Tax: B+; Business Tax (Corp/SCorp/Partnership): IN progress
Work Experience: Through Internship: Estate Planning
Extra Curricular/Other: Full tuition scholarship to JD program. ADR society.
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CPAJD
Where should I apply to?/What are my chances of getting in?

I really want to do tax planning for businesses (preferably small and medium size businesses).


T-4 School
GPA: 3.01
Rank: Top 45%
Tax Grades: Federal Estate and Gift Tax: B+; Federal Income Tax: B+; Business Tax (Corp/SCorp/Partnership): IN progress
Work Experience: Through Internship: Estate Planning
Extra Curricular/Other: Full tuition scholarship to JD program. ADR society.


Are you using T-4 as "Top 4" or "Tier 4"??
<blockquote>Where should I apply to?/What are my chances of getting in?

I really want to do tax planning for businesses (preferably small and medium size businesses).


T-4 School
GPA: 3.01
Rank: Top 45%
Tax Grades: Federal Estate and Gift Tax: B+; Federal Income Tax: B+; Business Tax (Corp/SCorp/Partnership): IN progress
Work Experience: Through Internship: Estate Planning
Extra Curricular/Other: Full tuition scholarship to JD program. ADR society.</blockquote>

Are you using T-4 as "Top 4" or "Tier 4"??
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sfp5005
Where should I apply to?/What are my chances of getting in?

I really want to do tax planning for businesses (preferably small and medium size businesses).


T-4 School
GPA: 3.01
Rank: Top 45%
Tax Grades: Federal Estate and Gift Tax: B+; Federal Income Tax: B+; Business Tax (Corp/SCorp/Partnership): IN progress
Work Experience: Through Internship: Estate Planning
Extra Curricular/Other: Full tuition scholarship to JD program. ADR society.


Are you using T-4 as "Top 4" or "Tier 4"??


Tier 4.
<blockquote><blockquote>Where should I apply to?/What are my chances of getting in?

I really want to do tax planning for businesses (preferably small and medium size businesses).


T-4 School
GPA: 3.01
Rank: Top 45%
Tax Grades: Federal Estate and Gift Tax: B+; Federal Income Tax: B+; Business Tax (Corp/SCorp/Partnership): IN progress
Work Experience: Through Internship: Estate Planning
Extra Curricular/Other: Full tuition scholarship to JD program. ADR society.</blockquote>

Are you using T-4 as "Top 4" or "Tier 4"??</blockquote>

Tier 4.
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CPAJD
Where should I apply to?/What are my chances of getting in?

I really want to do tax planning for businesses (preferably small and medium size businesses).


T-4 School
GPA: 3.01
Rank: Top 45%
Tax Grades: Federal Estate and Gift Tax: B+; Federal Income Tax: B+; Business Tax (Corp/SCorp/Partnership): IN progress
Work Experience: Through Internship: Estate Planning
Extra Curricular/Other: Full tuition scholarship to JD program. ADR society.


Are you using T-4 as "Top 4" or "Tier 4"??


Tier 4.


It all depends on what you want to do, I guess.

From my readings of this Forum, schools generally look at two things. Your overall law school achievement and your interest in tax law. I've generally read that a Top 1/3 class ranking is good for overall performance, while high grades in tax related classes can help as well.

In MY OPINION, a Tier-4 law degree, a middle class rank, and a B+ average in tax classes doesn't look good to get into the Top Tax Programs. (NYU, UF, GULC)

But it all comes down to what you want to do. You could easily get into a lower ranked program if your true desire is Tax Law. However, those degrees tend to hold little weight outside their general geographic vicinity.

If I were you, I would apply anyways if you truly want to do this. If you're doing this to put off finding a job, or to add another degree from a university with higher recognition to your resume, I wouldn't.
<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>Where should I apply to?/What are my chances of getting in?

I really want to do tax planning for businesses (preferably small and medium size businesses).


T-4 School
GPA: 3.01
Rank: Top 45%
Tax Grades: Federal Estate and Gift Tax: B+; Federal Income Tax: B+; Business Tax (Corp/SCorp/Partnership): IN progress
Work Experience: Through Internship: Estate Planning
Extra Curricular/Other: Full tuition scholarship to JD program. ADR society.</blockquote>

Are you using T-4 as "Top 4" or "Tier 4"??</blockquote>

Tier 4.</blockquote>

It all depends on what you want to do, I guess.

From my readings of this Forum, schools generally look at two things. Your overall law school achievement and your interest in tax law. I've generally read that a Top 1/3 class ranking is good for overall performance, while high grades in tax related classes can help as well.

In MY OPINION, a Tier-4 law degree, a middle class rank, and a B+ average in tax classes doesn't look good to get into the Top Tax Programs. (NYU, UF, GULC)

But it all comes down to what you want to do. You could easily get into a lower ranked program if your true desire is Tax Law. However, those degrees tend to hold little weight outside their general geographic vicinity.

If I were you, I would apply anyways if you truly want to do this. If you're doing this to put off finding a job, or to add another degree from a university with higher recognition to your resume, I wouldn't.
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sfp5005
Where should I apply to?/What are my chances of getting in?

I really want to do tax planning for businesses (preferably small and medium size businesses).


T-4 School
GPA: 3.01
Rank: Top 45%
Tax Grades: Federal Estate and Gift Tax: B+; Federal Income Tax: B+; Business Tax (Corp/SCorp/Partnership): IN progress
Work Experience: Through Internship: Estate Planning
Extra Curricular/Other: Full tuition scholarship to JD program. ADR society.


Are you using T-4 as "Top 4" or "Tier 4"??


Tier 4.


It all depends on what you want to do, I guess.

From my readings of this Forum, schools generally look at two things. Your overall law school achievement and your interest in tax law. I've generally read that a Top 1/3 class ranking is good for overall performance, while high grades in tax related classes can help as well.

In MY OPINION, a Tier-4 law degree, a middle class rank, and a B+ average in tax classes doesn't look good to get into the Top Tax Programs. (NYU, UF, GULC)

But it all comes down to what you want to do. You could easily get into a lower ranked program if your true desire is Tax Law. However, those degrees tend to hold little weight outside their general geographic vicinity.

If I were you, I would apply anyways if you truly want to do this. If you're doing this to put off finding a job, or to add another degree from a university with higher recognition to your resume, I wouldn't.


I dont mind staying within the geographic vicinity of my degree.

Would Villanova, New York Law School, or Temple's Programs be in the universe of possibility?

Which programs would be a complete waste of time and money?
<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>Where should I apply to?/What are my chances of getting in?

I really want to do tax planning for businesses (preferably small and medium size businesses).


T-4 School
GPA: 3.01
Rank: Top 45%
Tax Grades: Federal Estate and Gift Tax: B+; Federal Income Tax: B+; Business Tax (Corp/SCorp/Partnership): IN progress
Work Experience: Through Internship: Estate Planning
Extra Curricular/Other: Full tuition scholarship to JD program. ADR society.</blockquote>

Are you using T-4 as "Top 4" or "Tier 4"??</blockquote>

Tier 4.</blockquote>

It all depends on what you want to do, I guess.

From my readings of this Forum, schools generally look at two things. Your overall law school achievement and your interest in tax law. I've generally read that a Top 1/3 class ranking is good for overall performance, while high grades in tax related classes can help as well.

In MY OPINION, a Tier-4 law degree, a middle class rank, and a B+ average in tax classes doesn't look good to get into the Top Tax Programs. (NYU, UF, GULC)

But it all comes down to what you want to do. You could easily get into a lower ranked program if your true desire is Tax Law. However, those degrees tend to hold little weight outside their general geographic vicinity.

If I were you, I would apply anyways if you truly want to do this. If you're doing this to put off finding a job, or to add another degree from a university with higher recognition to your resume, I wouldn't. </blockquote>

I dont mind staying within the geographic vicinity of my degree.

Would Villanova, New York Law School, or Temple's Programs be in the universe of possibility?

Which programs would be a complete waste of time and money?
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CPAJD
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2012/03/new-2013.html

Scroll down for the LLM rankings.

Or here is a research paper:

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1597337
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2012/03/new-2013.html

Scroll down for the LLM rankings.

Or here is a research paper:

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1597337
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CSJTax
I was accepted to GULC Tax LLM program. Here's my profile for those wondering whether to apply:

Domestic Student
Applied to Tax LLM plus Estate Planning Certificate (part time)
Graduated from Tier 2 school (rank is in the 60's) 19 years ago
GPA - 3.31
Class rank - Top 40%
Studied & practiced Intellectual Property Law
Career switch to Estate Planning 3 years ago

Career experience and current estate planning practice area made up for low class rank.

Application Submitted: Jan 4 2013
Application Completed: Jan 8 2013
Under Review: Feb 20 2013
Acceptance Email: Feb 21 2013
Status Changed Back to Application Completed: Feb 21 2013
I was accepted to GULC Tax LLM program. Here's my profile for those wondering whether to apply:

Domestic Student
Applied to Tax LLM plus Estate Planning Certificate (part time)
Graduated from Tier 2 school (rank is in the 60's) 19 years ago
GPA - 3.31
Class rank - Top 40%
Studied & practiced Intellectual Property Law
Career switch to Estate Planning 3 years ago

Career experience and current estate planning practice area made up for low class rank.

Application Submitted: Jan 4 2013
Application Completed: Jan 8 2013
Under Review: Feb 20 2013
Acceptance Email: Feb 21 2013
Status Changed Back to Application Completed: Feb 21 2013
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I am a international student and admitted to the tax program at NYU, Gtown and UF. Still thinking about where to go. Any suggestions? I am more into tax policy, anti-avoidance, tax administration and dispute resolution etc. and not very interested to understand all the technical details of US tax rules ...
I am a international student and admitted to the tax program at NYU, Gtown and UF. Still thinking about where to go. Any suggestions? I am more into tax policy, anti-avoidance, tax administration and dispute resolution etc. and not very interested to understand all the technical details of US tax rules ...
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