NYU Scholarship worth turning down Harvard etc.?
Posted Mar 13, 2011 12:55
I am one of the lucky ones. So far, I got admitted to every university I applied to (still waiting for Harvard's decision). Among others, I have been admitted to Stanford's "Law, Science and Technology" program, and NYU offered me the Arthur T. Vanderbilt full-tuition scholarship. And honestly, I almost expect that I will also be admitted to Harvard (though not being admitted would make my dilemma much easier...).
I always thought that if NYU offered me one of its substantial scholarships, I would accept in an instant - hey, studying in NYC (my girlfriend will accompany me and would love to live in New York for a year) without having to pay for it! What more could you want?
But now that I am in this situation, I find it difficult to commit to NYU and decline Stanford's excellent small-sized program and the unique reputation of Harvard. Will I regret turning down Stanford (and Harvard)? Is the unparalleled prestige of Harvard and Stanford worth turning down NYU's $ 47k?
I am one of the lucky ones. So far, I got admitted to every university I applied to (still waiting for Harvard's decision). Among others, I have been admitted to Stanford's "Law, Science and Technology" program, and NYU offered me the Arthur T. Vanderbilt full-tuition scholarship. And honestly, I almost expect that I will also be admitted to Harvard (though not being admitted would make my dilemma much easier...).
I always thought that if NYU offered me one of its substantial scholarships, I would accept in an instant - hey, studying in NYC (my girlfriend will accompany me and would love to live in New York for a year) without having to pay for it! What more could you want?
But now that I am in this situation, I find it difficult to commit to NYU and decline Stanford's excellent small-sized program and the unique reputation of Harvard. Will I regret turning down Stanford (and Harvard)? Is the unparalleled prestige of Harvard and Stanford worth turning down NYU's $ 47k?
Posted Mar 13, 2011 14:22
Posted Mar 13, 2011 14:35
Hi there,
I am one of the lucky ones. So far, I got admitted to every university I applied to (still waiting for Harvard's decision). Among others, I have been admitted to Stanford's "Law, Science and Technology" program, and NYU offered me the Arthur T. Vanderbilt full-tuition scholarship. And honestly, I almost expect that I will also be admitted to Harvard (though not being admitted would make my dilemma much easier...).
I always thought that if NYU offered me one of its substantial scholarships, I would accept in an instant - hey, studying in NYC (my girlfriend will accompany me and would love to live in New York for a year) without having to pay for it! What more could you want?
But now that I am in this situation, I find it difficult to commit to NYU and decline Stanford's excellent small-sized program and the unique reputation of Harvard. Will I regret turning down Stanford (and Harvard)? Is the unparalleled prestige of Harvard and Stanford worth turning down NYU's $ 47k?
tough one... but I'd turn it down... Harvard Stanford and Chicago (and to a lesser extent Columbia) have an unparelleled prestige and x-factor...
I am one of the lucky ones. So far, I got admitted to every university I applied to (still waiting for Harvard's decision). Among others, I have been admitted to Stanford's "Law, Science and Technology" program, and NYU offered me the Arthur T. Vanderbilt full-tuition scholarship. And honestly, I almost expect that I will also be admitted to Harvard (though not being admitted would make my dilemma much easier...).
I always thought that if NYU offered me one of its substantial scholarships, I would accept in an instant - hey, studying in NYC (my girlfriend will accompany me and would love to live in New York for a year) without having to pay for it! What more could you want?
But now that I am in this situation, I find it difficult to commit to NYU and decline Stanford's excellent small-sized program and the unique reputation of Harvard. Will I regret turning down Stanford (and Harvard)? Is the unparalleled prestige of Harvard and Stanford worth turning down NYU's $ 47k? </blockquote>
tough one... but I'd turn it down... Harvard Stanford and Chicago (and to a lesser extent Columbia) have an unparelleled prestige and x-factor...
Posted Mar 13, 2011 14:45
Posted Mar 13, 2011 14:48
Not true, Columbia beats Chicago or at least they are equal... Additionally CLS is better ranked
I don't agree at all on that point...
Chicago is younger school that is steadily rising (all analysts agree on that point). It's a matter of time until Chicago becomse no. 4 (and maybe even higher after that). Morover, from an acedemic perspective Chicago is far superior to NYC schools. From a hiring perspective it differs from country to country.
I don't agree at all on that point...
Chicago is younger school that is steadily rising (all analysts agree on that point). It's a matter of time until Chicago becomse no. 4 (and maybe even higher after that). Morover, from an acedemic perspective Chicago is far superior to NYC schools. From a hiring perspective it differs from country to country.
Posted Mar 13, 2011 14:52
Anyway, rankings are going to be released tomorrow and we will see....
Anyway, rankings are going to be released tomorrow and we will see....
Posted Mar 13, 2011 14:53
I think you are not objective at all, since it seems you got admission to Chicago and rejected by CLS.
Anyway, rankings are going to be released tomorrow and we will see....
Lols... thank You for analysing my skills to be objective or not. I appreciate that. As a future lawyer, of course, I must be unable to look at things objectively... Ever considered I'd choose Chicago over Columbia any day? (accepted or not?). Hell, I'd even choose it over Harvard.
Anyway, rankings are going to be released tomorrow and we will see....</blockquote>
Lols... thank You for analysing my skills to be objective or not. I appreciate that. As a future lawyer, of course, I must be unable to look at things objectively... Ever considered I'd choose Chicago over Columbia any day? (accepted or not?). Hell, I'd even choose it over Harvard.
Posted Mar 13, 2011 14:59
Posted Mar 13, 2011 15:00
Decline the offer from SLS and turn down the admission with scholarship from NYU. As you said, you will surely be admitted to HLS which will make you be proud of yourself forever in your lifetime legal career! You and your girlfriend will enjoy lobster very much in Boston! Believe me. :P
² however... do wait for admissions comming from Harvard :P
² however... do wait for admissions comming from Harvard :P
Posted Mar 13, 2011 15:24
Good luck!
Good luck!
Posted Mar 13, 2011 16:43
Is Harvard really worth it (besides the name, of course)? Is the education really that superior? Just as NYU, Harvard has rather large LL.M. classes (compared to say Stanford). Will I be a better lawyer having spent a year in Cambridge? I'm not that sure. Do I get a better cultural experience having spent a year in New York? I might. And frankly, an LL.M. is not only about sitting in the library, right?
Sure, also in my country Harvard has this huge brand, but a full-tuition merit scholarship is also considered a significant achievement. And as Vanderbilt scholar, you are said to have special attention from the faculty. A professor already called me and offered to be my counselor during my LL.M. It seems like they really care.
Or am I blinded by all the money NYU is offering? Damn, I'm torn! And NYU's deadline is fast approaching (Mar 18). (Don't get me wrong, I know how privileged I am and what a good decision it is to make.)
By the way, I did not apply to Chicago and Yale - my girlfriend vetoed both (Chicago on the cold winters, Yale on the location). You know, it's the girlfriends who wear the pants... And still, I have not yet been admitted to Harvard. But of course, considering the previous responses, I have to be confident.
Is Harvard really worth it (besides the name, of course)? Is the education really that superior? Just as NYU, Harvard has rather large LL.M. classes (compared to say Stanford). Will I be a better lawyer having spent a year in Cambridge? I'm not that sure. Do I get a better cultural experience having spent a year in New York? I might. And frankly, an LL.M. is not only about sitting in the library, right?
Sure, also in my country Harvard has this huge brand, but a full-tuition merit scholarship is also considered a significant achievement. And as Vanderbilt scholar, you are said to have special attention from the faculty. A professor already called me and offered to be my counselor during my LL.M. It seems like they really care.
Or am I blinded by all the money NYU is offering? Damn, I'm torn! And NYU's deadline is fast approaching (Mar 18). (Don't get me wrong, I know how privileged I am and what a good decision it is to make.)
By the way, I did not apply to Chicago and Yale - my girlfriend vetoed both (Chicago on the cold winters, Yale on the location). You know, it's the girlfriends who wear the pants... And still, I have not yet been admitted to Harvard. But of course, considering the previous responses, I have to be confident.
Posted Mar 13, 2011 16:56
Moreover, if time is not an issue, you may be able to take both. For example: study for free in NYU, defer Harvard for next year. You will not be the first one doing something like this. Just be aware that Stanford does not grant deferrals, so it's an all or nothing game with them.
EDIT: having lived in NYC, close to Washington square, I can confirm that NYU is, by far, the best in the "living experience" front.
Moreover, if time is not an issue, you may be able to take both. For example: study for free in NYU, defer Harvard for next year. You will not be the first one doing something like this. Just be aware that Stanford does not grant deferrals, so it's an all or nothing game with them.
EDIT: having lived in NYC, close to Washington square, I can confirm that NYU is, by far, the best in the "living experience" front.
Posted Mar 13, 2011 18:15
Harvard is a huge name.
Fact 2:
NYC is what most people refer to as "the States"
Fact 3:
NYU offers a great chance to explore NYC.
Fact 4:
Stanford is the name and the expert in what Oldtimer has pointed out, information etc.
Fact 5:
SF has a lovely weather!
The rest seems personal.
Personally I would choose Stanford over the other two.
The partner of my lawfirm chooses NYC and hense NYU since he considers that LLM means just an experience.
I have met many Harvard alumni and I think (no offense to anyone!), it doesnt make you a better lawyer, however, it is a great network (but at the end, if you will be practicing at your home country, what you learn at Harvard does not make huge difference).
What do you expect from your LLM?
Remember that scholarships (exp a full tuition waiver!) is a big plus on your CV and if professors want to work with you already, that means a lot! It means that they could be good reference for the future (having worked closely with them!).
After all, it will be your own experience, make it personal and choose your best!
Try to get a deferral if you cant make your mind up yet :)
and Congrats!!!
Harvard is a huge name.
Fact 2:
NYC is what most people refer to as "the States"
Fact 3:
NYU offers a great chance to explore NYC.
Fact 4:
Stanford is the name and the expert in what Oldtimer has pointed out, information etc.
Fact 5:
SF has a lovely weather!
The rest seems personal.
Personally I would choose Stanford over the other two.
The partner of my lawfirm chooses NYC and hense NYU since he considers that LLM means just an experience.
I have met many Harvard alumni and I think (no offense to anyone!), it doesnt make you a better lawyer, however, it is a great network (but at the end, if you will be practicing at your home country, what you learn at Harvard does not make huge difference).
What do you expect from your LLM?
Remember that scholarships (exp a full tuition waiver!) is a big plus on your CV and if professors want to work with you already, that means a lot! It means that they could be good reference for the future (having worked closely with them!).
After all, it will be your own experience, make it personal and choose your best!
Try to get a deferral if you cant make your mind up yet :)
and Congrats!!!
Posted Mar 13, 2011 18:36
Thanks for all the helpful answers - though I was hoping for some "Take NYU's money, great school, great city, you won't regret it!" kind of answers.
Is Harvard really worth it (besides the name, of course)? Is the education really that superior? Just as NYU, Harvard has rather large LL.M. classes (compared to say Stanford). Will I be a better lawyer having spent a year in Cambridge? I'm not that sure. Do I get a better cultural experience having spent a year in New York? I might. And frankly, an LL.M. is not only about sitting in the library, right?
Sure, also in my country Harvard has this huge brand, but a full-tuition merit scholarship is also considered a significant achievement. And as Vanderbilt scholar, you are said to have special attention from the faculty. A professor already called me and offered to be my counselor during my LL.M. It seems like they really care.
Or am I blinded by all the money NYU is offering? Damn, I'm torn! And NYU's deadline is fast approaching (Mar 18). (Don't get me wrong, I know how privileged I am and what a good decision it is to make.)
By the way, I did not apply to Chicago and Yale - my girlfriend vetoed both (Chicago on the cold winters, Yale on the location). You know, it's the girlfriends who wear the pants... And still, I have not yet been admitted to Harvard. But of course, considering the previous responses, I have to be confident.
This is exactly what I had in mind: "Take NYU's money, great school, great city, you won't regret it!"
I disagree with most ppl on the thread..It is just not rational to take the excelent choice you have in your hands and give it up for the mere possibility of getting admitted to harvard, despite all odds in your favour.
If you can wait for a decision from harvard great...postpone making a decision..if you can't. too bad (or too good) take the scholarship..
Is Harvard really worth it (besides the name, of course)? Is the education really that superior? Just as NYU, Harvard has rather large LL.M. classes (compared to say Stanford). Will I be a better lawyer having spent a year in Cambridge? I'm not that sure. Do I get a better cultural experience having spent a year in New York? I might. And frankly, an LL.M. is not only about sitting in the library, right?
Sure, also in my country Harvard has this huge brand, but a full-tuition merit scholarship is also considered a significant achievement. And as Vanderbilt scholar, you are said to have special attention from the faculty. A professor already called me and offered to be my counselor during my LL.M. It seems like they really care.
Or am I blinded by all the money NYU is offering? Damn, I'm torn! And NYU's deadline is fast approaching (Mar 18). (Don't get me wrong, I know how privileged I am and what a good decision it is to make.)
By the way, I did not apply to Chicago and Yale - my girlfriend vetoed both (Chicago on the cold winters, Yale on the location). You know, it's the girlfriends who wear the pants... And still, I have not yet been admitted to Harvard. But of course, considering the previous responses, I have to be confident. </blockquote>
This is exactly what I had in mind: "Take NYU's money, great school, great city, you won't regret it!"
I disagree with most ppl on the thread..It is just not rational to take the excelent choice you have in your hands and give it up for the mere possibility of getting admitted to harvard, despite all odds in your favour.
If you can wait for a decision from harvard great...postpone making a decision..if you can't. too bad (or too good) take the scholarship..
Posted Mar 13, 2011 20:17
Posted Mar 13, 2011 21:21
That must be what they call marketing :)
That must be what they call marketing :)
Posted Mar 13, 2011 21:40
It is an incredible amount that we are spending for a one-year program...
That must be what they call marketing :)
Unless somebody else, like NYU, pays for it!!!!
LOL
That must be what they call marketing :) </blockquote>
Unless somebody else, like NYU, pays for it!!!!
LOL
Posted Mar 14, 2011 02:03
I agree with those who said that a full tuition waiver scholarship is a great plus in your CV, even if Harvard is Harvard as with regard to the name...
In sum, If I had no money issues, I'd pick Harvard, otherwise (eg., if you must choose between going to Harvard and buying an apartment when you get back home), go to NYU. It has a great reputation for those who will eventually go to the market (the legal firm one, I mean).
Of course none of us will make up your mind in one way or another, but I hope my suggestion could be of some help.
I agree with those who said that a full tuition waiver scholarship is a great plus in your CV, even if Harvard is Harvard as with regard to the name...
In sum, If I had no money issues, I'd pick Harvard, otherwise (eg., if you must choose between going to Harvard and buying an apartment when you get back home), go to NYU. It has a great reputation for those who will eventually go to the market (the legal firm one, I mean).
Of course none of us will make up your mind in one way or another, but I hope my suggestion could be of some help.
Posted Mar 14, 2011 03:35
Hi there,
I am one of the lucky ones. So far, I got admitted to every university I applied to (still waiting for Harvard's decision). Among others, I have been admitted to Stanford's "Law, Science and Technology" program, and NYU offered me the Arthur T. Vanderbilt full-tuition scholarship. And honestly, I almost expect that I will also be admitted to Harvard (though not being admitted would make my dilemma much easier...).
I always thought that if NYU offered me one of its substantial scholarships, I would accept in an instant - hey, studying in NYC (my girlfriend will accompany me and would love to live in New York for a year) without having to pay for it! What more could you want?
But now that I am in this situation, I find it difficult to commit to NYU and decline Stanford's excellent small-sized program and the unique reputation of Harvard. Will I regret turning down Stanford (and Harvard)? Is the unparalleled prestige of Harvard and Stanford worth turning down NYU's $ 47k?
Hi, Sam
iv to appologize for not being able to hold back my curiosity. as someone whose credentials have clearly convinced all top us law schools (with harvard to come for sure), would u mind to share some of ur achievements with us?
i'm sensing a burning jealousy , if not about the full tuition scholarship, def about the "my girl friend's accompanying me to live in ny for year" part... : )
I am one of the lucky ones. So far, I got admitted to every university I applied to (still waiting for Harvard's decision). Among others, I have been admitted to Stanford's "Law, Science and Technology" program, and NYU offered me the Arthur T. Vanderbilt full-tuition scholarship. And honestly, I almost expect that I will also be admitted to Harvard (though not being admitted would make my dilemma much easier...).
I always thought that if NYU offered me one of its substantial scholarships, I would accept in an instant - hey, studying in NYC (my girlfriend will accompany me and would love to live in New York for a year) without having to pay for it! What more could you want?
But now that I am in this situation, I find it difficult to commit to NYU and decline Stanford's excellent small-sized program and the unique reputation of Harvard. Will I regret turning down Stanford (and Harvard)? Is the unparalleled prestige of Harvard and Stanford worth turning down NYU's $ 47k? </blockquote>
Hi, Sam
iv to appologize for not being able to hold back my curiosity. as someone whose credentials have clearly convinced all top us law schools (with harvard to come for sure), would u mind to share some of ur achievements with us?
i'm sensing a burning jealousy , if not about the full tuition scholarship, def about the "my girl friend's accompanying me to live in ny for year" part... : )
Posted Mar 14, 2011 04:53
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