NYU Admitted


Whistler

@ Awojc, does the offer e-mail say something about the consequences of accepting now and not effectively enrolling? U. Chicago expressly warns they would let other law schools and your recommenders know about your dishonest conduct.

A second question: is there any requirement for a deposit from NYU?

Thanks a lot.


But how can U. Chicago know which law schools you've applied/been admitted to?


Well, I suppose they can't. What they must do is report the fact to a pre-set group of law schools, for instance the top 10.

Unfortunately you are not right here. Of course they have no idea where else you applied to. And they will not initiató any investigation on this.

Get smart and you will discover the answer yourself. There is onó small organization which BY NATURE is aware of any institution you are applying) Hint: it is connected with your transcript verification.

<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>@ Awojc, does the offer e-mail say something about the consequences of accepting now and not effectively enrolling? U. Chicago expressly warns they would let other law schools and your recommenders know about your dishonest conduct.

A second question: is there any requirement for a deposit from NYU?

Thanks a lot.</blockquote>

But how can U. Chicago know which law schools you've applied/been admitted to? </blockquote>

Well, I suppose they can't. What they must do is report the fact to a pre-set group of law schools, for instance the top 10.</blockquote>
Unfortunately you are not right here. Of course they have no idea where else you applied to. And they will not initiató any investigation on this.

Get smart and you will discover the answer yourself. There is onó small organization which BY NATURE is aware of any institution you are applying) Hint: it is connected with your transcript verification.
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Do you have any idea when HLS will submit their decision?? I can't wait! I obtained full scholarship at NYU, and admitted to Columbia... (I will go to CLS), but I need to answer by 17 march!

Do you have any idea when HLS will submit their decision?? I can't wait! I obtained full scholarship at NYU, and admitted to Columbia... (I will go to CLS), but I need to answer by 17 march!
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Xview

To valeria: you have obtained full scholarship at NYU, and u are going to CLS? Have you obtained financ aid at cls? HLS will anounce at the end of march...

where r u from?

To valeria: you have obtained full scholarship at NYU, and u are going to CLS? Have you obtained financ aid at cls? HLS will anounce at the end of march...

where r u from?
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No, I have not obtained financial aid at CLS. My fingers crossed for HLS.
Is great the offer, but CLS is a better university and I can afford it... and at the end of the day you recover the money with job opportunities.
Im from brazil.

No, I have not obtained financial aid at CLS. My fingers crossed for HLS.
Is great the offer, but CLS is a better university and I can afford it... and at the end of the day you recover the money with job opportunities.
Im from brazil.
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Whistler

Well as for the legal market in NYC these days I doubt anyone of the current LLM class shall expect an easy placement.... Maybe it would be better May 2011?

Well as for the legal market in NYC these days I doubt anyone of the current LLM class shall expect an easy placement.... Maybe it would be better May 2011?
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JCA

I know alot of people here have March deadlines, when did you get accepted? I received my acceptance a few hours ago and my deadline is 15 April...

I know alot of people here have March deadlines, when did you get accepted? I received my acceptance a few hours ago and my deadline is 15 April...
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Xview

I got accepted on March 1, and my deadline is March 9

I got accepted on March 1, and my deadline is March 9
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anchal

I got admitted on March 2 in corporate program... m from India... I hv created a forum of NYU LL.M. 2010 on FACEBOOK.... kindly b a member so all of us will get in touch.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=365316169313&ref=nf

I got admitted on March 2 in corporate program... m from India... I hv created a forum of NYU LL.M. 2010 on FACEBOOK.... kindly b a member so all of us will get in touch.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=365316169313&ref=nf
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MAB79

No, I have not obtained financial aid at CLS. My fingers crossed for HLS.
Is great the offer, but CLS is a better university and I can afford it... and at the end of the day you recover the money with job opportunities.
Im from brazil.


I strongly doubt that the difference between CLS and NYU is worth more than a full scholarship. In particular it is not a disadvantage in the job market. There are not more CLS lawyers with top jobs than NYU lawyers At the moment the job market itself is its greatest disadvantage.

I can also afford it to study without scholarship, but if I imagine what I could do with another 45k Dollar...wow, what a nice appartment this would be in the village instead of a one bedroom studio. How often could I go to the excellent restaurants etc...but maybe you are lucky and can still afford this and everything else...Manhattan is a very expensive place...

<blockquote>No, I have not obtained financial aid at CLS. My fingers crossed for HLS.
Is great the offer, but CLS is a better university and I can afford it... and at the end of the day you recover the money with job opportunities.
Im from brazil.</blockquote>

I strongly doubt that the difference between CLS and NYU is worth more than a full scholarship. In particular it is not a disadvantage in the job market. There are not more CLS lawyers with top jobs than NYU lawyers At the moment the job market itself is its greatest disadvantage.

I can also afford it to study without scholarship, but if I imagine what I could do with another 45k Dollar...wow, what a nice appartment this would be in the village instead of a one bedroom studio. How often could I go to the excellent restaurants etc...but maybe you are lucky and can still afford this and everything else...Manhattan is a very expensive place...
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Awojc

No, I have not obtained financial aid at CLS. My fingers crossed for HLS.
Is great the offer, but CLS is a better university and I can afford it... and at the end of the day you recover the money with job opportunities.
Im from brazil.


I strongly doubt that the difference between CLS and NYU is worth more than a full scholarship. In particular it is not a disadvantage in the job market. There are not more CLS lawyers with top jobs than NYU lawyers At the moment the job market itself is its greatest disadvantage.

I can also afford it to study without scholarship, but if I imagine what I could do with another 45k Dollar...wow, what a nice appartment this would be in the village instead of a one bedroom studio. How often could I go to the excellent restaurants etc...but maybe you are lucky and can still afford this and everything else...Manhattan is a very expensive place...


MAB79
I can't agree more. The award is going to be very decisive in my choice.

<blockquote><blockquote>No, I have not obtained financial aid at CLS. My fingers crossed for HLS.
Is great the offer, but CLS is a better university and I can afford it... and at the end of the day you recover the money with job opportunities.
Im from brazil.</blockquote>

I strongly doubt that the difference between CLS and NYU is worth more than a full scholarship. In particular it is not a disadvantage in the job market. There are not more CLS lawyers with top jobs than NYU lawyers At the moment the job market itself is its greatest disadvantage.

I can also afford it to study without scholarship, but if I imagine what I could do with another 45k Dollar...wow, what a nice appartment this would be in the village instead of a one bedroom studio. How often could I go to the excellent restaurants etc...but maybe you are lucky and can still afford this and everything else...Manhattan is a very expensive place...</blockquote>

MAB79
I can't agree more. The award is going to be very decisive in my choice.
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For those who are worried about whether they can accept the NYU offer and still accept a subsequent offer, such as HLS, don't sweat it.

The first paragraph under the section "Accepting an Offer of Admission" states:

"In order to accept an offer of admission, we will require you to withdraw from any other offers of admission you have at that point."

The key words being "...at that point." So if you are only worried about an offer that will come after you accept the NYU offer, then you can accept the NYU offer in good faith. If HLS makes a subsequent offer after you have accepted the NYU offer, you are free to accept it and still be in conformance with the NYU rules. Of course if you accept the NYU offer of admission then you must withdraw your application from any law school that has already made you an offer.

Can't get any clearer than that.

For those who are worried about whether they can accept the NYU offer and still accept a subsequent offer, such as HLS, don't sweat it.

The first paragraph under the section "Accepting an Offer of Admission" states:

"In order to accept an offer of admission, we will require you to withdraw from any other offers of admission you have at that point."

The key words being "...at that point." So if you are only worried about an offer that will come after you accept the NYU offer, then you can accept the NYU offer in good faith. If HLS makes a subsequent offer after you have accepted the NYU offer, you are free to accept it and still be in conformance with the NYU rules. Of course if you accept the NYU offer of admission then you must withdraw your application from any law school that has already made you an offer.

Can't get any clearer than that.
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mgm

Well I don't know if someone is worried about accepting a non-scholarship offer from NYU before having HLS/YLS admission's decision... I mean, the deadline for those NYU offers is April 15, hence you should have a final answer from Y/H by then....

On the other hand, the people that are worried about timing are those who got NYU offers WITH A SCHOLARSHIP, 'cause they have to accept it by March 9 or sooner.

I should assume that you're talking about the latter, 'cause otherwise your post makes no sense to me. If so, then let me point out that the conditions under which SCHOLARSHIP RECIPIENTS are to enroll include the following clause:

"in committing to NYU, you must withdraw all pending applications and [ii] withdraw from all offers of admission to other institutions."

Although your memo takes into account point [ii], it openly disregards point . It clearly represents a breach of your (freely assumed) commitments to NYU if you accept a subsequent offer from another school after you have accepted theirs, because you're specifically required to withdraw ALL pending applications treating NYU as your school of "first choice" (see Scholarship Enrollment Terms memo).

I guess we can continue to sweat it.

Well I don't know if someone is worried about accepting a non-scholarship offer from NYU before having HLS/YLS admission's decision... I mean, the deadline for those NYU offers is April 15, hence you should have a final answer from Y/H by then....

On the other hand, the people that are worried about timing are those who got NYU offers WITH A SCHOLARSHIP, 'cause they have to accept it by March 9 or sooner.

I should assume that you're talking about the latter, 'cause otherwise your post makes no sense to me. If so, then let me point out that the conditions under which SCHOLARSHIP RECIPIENTS are to enroll include the following clause:

"in committing to NYU, you must [i] withdraw all pending applications and [ii] withdraw from all offers of admission to other institutions."

Although your memo takes into account point [ii], it openly disregards point [i]. It clearly represents a breach of your (freely assumed) commitments to NYU if you accept a subsequent offer from another school after you have accepted theirs, because you're specifically required to withdraw ALL pending applications treating NYU as your school of "first choice" (see Scholarship Enrollment Terms memo).

I guess we can continue to sweat it.
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love-m

If I haven't heard from NYU yet, is there still chance to be admitted? Thanks everybody..

If I haven't heard from NYU yet, is there still chance to be admitted? Thanks everybody..
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mgm.
Read what you wrote. That statement is completely consistent with the statement I quoted. Besides basic contract law holds that where there is ambiguity the clause will be construed in a manner most favorable to the non drafting party. But again it isn't ambiguous. If you accept you must withdrawl applications with offers or more appropriately turn down the offers. The competing sentence clearly and unambiguously states that anyone who accepts NYU's offer must withdraw from any offers of admission you have at that point. They could have said any and all applications that you have submitted. Instead only offers at the point in time of acceptance.

Those persons who are offered admission and scholarships are very concerned about accepting the NYU offer and then receive an admit from HLS or any other school they still haven't heard from.

It would be better to get an extension because you wouldn't forfeit your deposit if you accepted a subsequent offer. However, the section you quoted from makes it clear that NYU understands the situtation prospective students with offers have but they are offerring admission and scholarship to those students to whom NYU is there first choice. Makes sense. Its their school and their money, but they do give honest students a honorable out should they receive a subsequent offer from a preferred law school sans the depost of course.

mgm.
Read what you wrote. That statement is completely consistent with the statement I quoted. Besides basic contract law holds that where there is ambiguity the clause will be construed in a manner most favorable to the non drafting party. But again it isn't ambiguous. If you accept you must withdrawl applications with offers or more appropriately turn down the offers. The competing sentence clearly and unambiguously states that anyone who accepts NYU's offer must withdraw from any offers of admission you have at that point. They could have said any and all applications that you have submitted. Instead only offers at the point in time of acceptance.

Those persons who are offered admission and scholarships are very concerned about accepting the NYU offer and then receive an admit from HLS or any other school they still haven't heard from.

It would be better to get an extension because you wouldn't forfeit your deposit if you accepted a subsequent offer. However, the section you quoted from makes it clear that NYU understands the situtation prospective students with offers have but they are offerring admission and scholarship to those students to whom NYU is there first choice. Makes sense. Its their school and their money, but they do give honest students a honorable out should they receive a subsequent offer from a preferred law school sans the depost of course.
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Awojc

mgm.
Read what you wrote. That statement is completely consistent with the statement I quoted. Besides basic contract law holds that where there is ambiguity the clause will be construed in a manner most favorable to the non drafting party. But again it isn't ambiguous. If you accept you must withdrawl applications with offers or more appropriately turn down the offers. The competing sentence clearly and unambiguously states that anyone who accepts NYU's offer must withdraw from any offers of admission you have at that point. They could have said any and all applications that you have submitted. Instead only offers at the point in time of acceptance.

Those persons who are offered admission and scholarships are very concerned about accepting the NYU offer and then receive an admit from HLS or any other school they still haven't heard from.

It would be better to get an extension because you wouldn't forfeit your deposit if you accepted a subsequent offer. However, the section you quoted from makes it clear that NYU understands the situtation prospective students with offers have but they are offerring admission and scholarship to those students to whom NYU is there first choice. Makes sense. Its their school and their money, but they do give honest students a honorable out should they receive a subsequent offer from a preferred law school sans the depost of course.

I wish your post reflects the true position. Alas, it does not. I am lokking at my "Intention to Enroll Form" and it clearly states "If i have been offered a merit award, I attest that I have also withdrawn all pending applications at other institutions as a condition of accepting the award and enrolling at the law school".

It doesn't rain; it pours!!!

<blockquote>mgm.
Read what you wrote. That statement is completely consistent with the statement I quoted. Besides basic contract law holds that where there is ambiguity the clause will be construed in a manner most favorable to the non drafting party. But again it isn't ambiguous. If you accept you must withdrawl applications with offers or more appropriately turn down the offers. The competing sentence clearly and unambiguously states that anyone who accepts NYU's offer must withdraw from any offers of admission you have at that point. They could have said any and all applications that you have submitted. Instead only offers at the point in time of acceptance.

Those persons who are offered admission and scholarships are very concerned about accepting the NYU offer and then receive an admit from HLS or any other school they still haven't heard from.

It would be better to get an extension because you wouldn't forfeit your deposit if you accepted a subsequent offer. However, the section you quoted from makes it clear that NYU understands the situtation prospective students with offers have but they are offerring admission and scholarship to those students to whom NYU is there first choice. Makes sense. Its their school and their money, but they do give honest students a honorable out should they receive a subsequent offer from a preferred law school sans the depost of course.</blockquote>
I wish your post reflects the true position. Alas, it does not. I am lokking at my "Intention to Enroll Form" and it clearly states "If i have been offered a merit award, I attest that I have also withdrawn all pending applications at other institutions as a condition of accepting the award and enrolling at the law school".

It doesn't rain; it pours!!!
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MAB79

For those who are worried about whether they can accept the NYU offer and still accept a subsequent offer, such as HLS, don't sweat it.

The first paragraph under the section "Accepting an Offer of Admission" states:

"In order to accept an offer of admission, we will require you to withdraw from any other offers of admission you have at that point."

The key words being "...at that point." So if you are only worried about an offer that will come after you accept the NYU offer, then you can accept the NYU offer in good faith. If HLS makes a subsequent offer after you have accepted the NYU offer, you are free to accept it and still be in conformance with the NYU rules. Of course if you accept the NYU offer of admission then you must withdraw your application from any law school that has already made you an offer.

Can't get any clearer than that.


Makes sense, but is it still good faith when you accept the offer only, because you won't lose the scholarship although you know very well that you will withdraw it as soon as HLS wants you?;-)

<blockquote>For those who are worried about whether they can accept the NYU offer and still accept a subsequent offer, such as HLS, don't sweat it.

The first paragraph under the section "Accepting an Offer of Admission" states:

"In order to accept an offer of admission, we will require you to withdraw from any other offers of admission you have at that point."

The key words being "...at that point." So if you are only worried about an offer that will come after you accept the NYU offer, then you can accept the NYU offer in good faith. If HLS makes a subsequent offer after you have accepted the NYU offer, you are free to accept it and still be in conformance with the NYU rules. Of course if you accept the NYU offer of admission then you must withdraw your application from any law school that has already made you an offer.

Can't get any clearer than that.</blockquote>

Makes sense, but is it still good faith when you accept the offer only, because you won't lose the scholarship although you know very well that you will withdraw it as soon as HLS wants you?;-)
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lextra

NYU's intention wrt scholarships and early deadline is clearly to encourage you to choose their offer over latter offers from HLS and/or YLS. That's why the deadline is earlier than the offers which are made w/no financial aid. It puts them in an annoying position if you accept w/aid and then pull out (because those scholarships could have been awarded to other applicants, and likely all decisions will have been made by the enrolment date) and it is definitely not in good faith. The situation re: standard offers of admission (with no financial aid) is different as it does not necessarily cause any issues for the university if you accept and subsequently withdraw.

One may question the fairness of these early deadlines but at the end of the day they seek to get the best candidates and it makes complete sense for them to ask you to withdraw other apps. I doubt any serious consequences would ensue (outside of NYU) if you were to accept and withdraw following an offer from HLS etc, but I wouldn't expect them to look on you very favourably in the event you wanted something to do with them in the future. They are well aware that this poses a dilemma for candidates and they are asking you to consider the risk.

NYU's intention wrt scholarships and early deadline is clearly to encourage you to choose their offer over latter offers from HLS and/or YLS. That's why the deadline is earlier than the offers which are made w/no financial aid. It puts them in an annoying position if you accept w/aid and then pull out (because those scholarships could have been awarded to other applicants, and likely all decisions will have been made by the enrolment date) and it is definitely not in good faith. The situation re: standard offers of admission (with no financial aid) is different as it does not necessarily cause any issues for the university if you accept and subsequently withdraw.

One may question the fairness of these early deadlines but at the end of the day they seek to get the best candidates and it makes complete sense for them to ask you to withdraw other apps. I doubt any serious consequences would ensue (outside of NYU) if you were to accept and withdraw following an offer from HLS etc, but I wouldn't expect them to look on you very favourably in the event you wanted something to do with them in the future. They are well aware that this poses a dilemma for candidates and they are asking you to consider the risk.
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Awojc

NYU's intention wrt scholarships and early deadline is clearly to encourage you to choose their offer over latter offers from HLS and/or YLS. That's why the deadline is earlier than the offers which are made w/no financial aid. It puts them in an annoying position if you accept w/aid and then pull out (because those scholarships could have been awarded to other applicants, and likely all decisions will have been made by the enrolment date) and it is definitely not in good faith. The situation re: standard offers of admission (with no financial aid) is different as it does not necessarily cause any issues for the university if you accept and subsequently withdraw.

One may question the fairness of these early deadlines but at the end of the day they seek to get the best candidates and it makes complete sense for them to ask you to withdraw other apps. I doubt any serious consequences would ensue (outside of NYU) if you were to accept and withdraw following an offer from HLS etc, but I wouldn't expect them to look on you very favourably in the event you wanted something to do with them in the future. They are well aware that this poses a dilemma for candidates and they are asking you to consider the risk.


I think your post hits the nail on the head. I can't agree more

<blockquote>NYU's intention wrt scholarships and early deadline is clearly to encourage you to choose their offer over latter offers from HLS and/or YLS. That's why the deadline is earlier than the offers which are made w/no financial aid. It puts them in an annoying position if you accept w/aid and then pull out (because those scholarships could have been awarded to other applicants, and likely all decisions will have been made by the enrolment date) and it is definitely not in good faith. The situation re: standard offers of admission (with no financial aid) is different as it does not necessarily cause any issues for the university if you accept and subsequently withdraw.

One may question the fairness of these early deadlines but at the end of the day they seek to get the best candidates and it makes complete sense for them to ask you to withdraw other apps. I doubt any serious consequences would ensue (outside of NYU) if you were to accept and withdraw following an offer from HLS etc, but I wouldn't expect them to look on you very favourably in the event you wanted something to do with them in the future. They are well aware that this poses a dilemma for candidates and they are asking you to consider the risk.</blockquote>

I think your post hits the nail on the head. I can't agree more
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mgm

@cmplxlitigator: Look I don't want to be disrespectful, but please don't play the role of "the lawyer" in a board full of (apparently much more experienced) lawyers... it doesn't make you sound smart.
Instead of watching "Boston Legal", I suggest you to read carefully what others write before posting.

mgm.
Read what you wrote. That statement is completely consistent with the statement I quoted.

Where did I deny this? I'm not saying that NYU's rules for erollment are contradictory. I'm just saying that your analysis openly disregards one clause that is absolutely relevant, for it specifically applies to the people you intend to advice and commands them to do X (while you are telling them they can do Y, and still be playing safely within the rules if they do so).

Besides basic contract law holds that where there is ambiguity the clause will be construed in a manner most favorable to the non drafting party.

What? Other than proving your "ample knowledge" of the law (I'm impressed), what does this has to do with it? (As if NYU would take you to court...)

But again it isn't ambiguous.

Ah, now I see what it has to do with it.

If you accept you must withdrawl applications with offers or more appropriately turn down the offers. The competing sentence clearly and unambiguously states that anyone who accepts NYU's offer must withdraw from any offers of admission you have at that point.

What's up with this lawyerly defense of a point everyone agrees on?? Save the fancy wording for the supreme court brief, please.

They could have said any and all applications that you have submitted. Instead only offers at the point in time of acceptance.

Which part of "you must withdraw all pending applications" you didn't get? I'm just curious.

Those persons who are offered admission and scholarships are very concerned about accepting the NYU offer and then receive an admit from HLS or any other school they still haven't heard from.

At last, here you contradict something I've written. ...Oh wait, didn't I write: "people that are worried about timing are those who got NYU offers WITH A SCHOLARSHIP, 'cause they have to accept it by March 9 or sooner." Well, at least I'm glad we're on the same page...

It would be better to get an extension because you wouldn't forfeit your deposit if you accepted a subsequent offer.

Look, the whole point of the debate is that there is (or better: IF there is) something more than $500 to loose for people who go for the "dishonest acceptance" strategy. No one facing a choice between "H/Y -$500" and "NYU with scholarship" is particularly concerned with such a dilemma.

However, the section you quoted from makes it clear that NYU understands the situtation prospective students with offers have but they are offerring admission and scholarship to those students to whom NYU is there first choice.

Oh, man. You just don't get it. Again: if NYU was those people's first choice, we wouldn't be having an argument --they (we) would simply enroll. If what you're implying is that NYU just THINKS they are our first choice although really they are not ('cause we've deceived them), then read careefully the same document of conditions for enrollment:
"Our preference is that our scholarship awards assist those whose first choice is to attend NYU Law. If NYU is your school of choice-and we certainly hope it is-you may of course accept our offer and enroll today. If you need more time to deliberate, we have provided a short interval..." Got it now? They are not necessarily making offers to people who consider NYU their first choice; in case they are NOT your first choice, they just ask you to think about it (get expedit answers from others, etc.) and, in the case you finally decide to enroll with a scholarship, they reasonably require you to treat them as your school of first choice.

Makes sense. Its their school and their money,

Of course it does!

but they do give honest students a honorable out should they receive a subsequent offer from a preferred law school sans the depost of course.

OK, I quit!

Now, back to serious business:
Since (hopefully now) everybody agrees that there is a breach in case you accept a scholarship-offer from NYU and then decide to enroll in another school (H/Y, whatever), some have asked what would NYU do in this case, if and how can they "punish" you.
For other Boston Legal fans that happen to be around: no, they won't take you to court.

Thay can do 3 things, to my knowledge:
1. Blacklist you from any future NYU thing. Unlikely that they actually have a black list, but might happen.
2. Let other schools know about your lack of ethical behavior (it is not hard to know which could be the one you're enrolling in, there are some 6 or 7 other schools "worth" the move). Keep in mind that schools have ties much more important to them than the mere fact of getting one slightly better candidate (you're not the Tiger Woods of law, I'm sorry to tell). So if you're going for this, make sure that the law school of your first choice is aware of the situation and agrees to maintain its offer.
3. They can contact your recommenders and let them know. They won't like it, believe me. Your recommenders are putting their prestige behind you, not only informing you are an academically worth candidate, but that you are a person of integrity worth of NYU (H/Y, etc.). NYU may stop paying attention to your recommenders' recommendees from now on...

Those are my 2 cents.

@cmplxlitigator: Look I don't want to be disrespectful, but please don't play the role of "the lawyer" in a board full of (apparently much more experienced) lawyers... it doesn't make you sound smart.
Instead of watching "Boston Legal", I suggest you to read carefully what others write before posting.

<blockquote>mgm.
Read what you wrote. That statement is completely consistent with the statement I quoted.</blockquote>
Where did I deny this? I'm not saying that NYU's rules for erollment are contradictory. I'm just saying that your analysis openly disregards one clause that is absolutely relevant, for it specifically applies to the people you intend to advice and commands them to do X (while you are telling them they can do Y, and still be playing safely within the rules if they do so).

<blockquote>Besides basic contract law holds that where there is ambiguity the clause will be construed in a manner most favorable to the non drafting party.</blockquote>
What? Other than proving your "ample knowledge" of the law (I'm impressed), what does this has to do with it? (As if NYU would take you to court...)

<blockquote>But again it isn't ambiguous.</blockquote>
Ah, now I see what it has to do with it.

<blockquote>If you accept you must withdrawl applications with offers or more appropriately turn down the offers. The competing sentence clearly and unambiguously states that anyone who accepts NYU's offer must withdraw from any offers of admission you have at that point.</blockquote>
What's up with this lawyerly defense of a point everyone agrees on?? Save the fancy wording for the supreme court brief, please.

<blockquote>They could have said any and all applications that you have submitted. Instead only offers at the point in time of acceptance.</blockquote>
Which part of "you must withdraw all pending applications" you didn't get? I'm just curious.

<blockquote>Those persons who are offered admission and scholarships are very concerned about accepting the NYU offer and then receive an admit from HLS or any other school they still haven't heard from.</blockquote>
At last, here you contradict something I've written. ...Oh wait, didn't I write: "people that are worried about timing are those who got NYU offers WITH A SCHOLARSHIP, 'cause they have to accept it by March 9 or sooner." Well, at least I'm glad we're on the same page...

<blockquote>It would be better to get an extension because you wouldn't forfeit your deposit if you accepted a subsequent offer.</blockquote>
Look, the whole point of the debate is that there is (or better: IF there is) something more than $500 to loose for people who go for the "dishonest acceptance" strategy. No one facing a choice between "H/Y -$500" and "NYU with scholarship" is particularly concerned with such a dilemma.

<blockquote>However, the section you quoted from makes it clear that NYU understands the situtation prospective students with offers have but they are offerring admission and scholarship to those students to whom NYU is there first choice.</blockquote>
Oh, man. You just don't get it. Again: if NYU was those people's first choice, we wouldn't be having an argument --they (we) would simply enroll. If what you're implying is that NYU just THINKS they are our first choice although really they are not ('cause we've deceived them), then read careefully the same document of conditions for enrollment:
"Our preference is that our scholarship awards assist those whose first choice is to attend NYU Law. If NYU is your school of choice-and we certainly hope it is-you may of course accept our offer and enroll today. If you need more time to deliberate, we have provided a short interval..." Got it now? They are not necessarily making offers to people who consider NYU their first choice; in case they are NOT your first choice, they just ask you to think about it (get expedit answers from others, etc.) and, in the case you finally decide to enroll with a scholarship, they reasonably require you to treat them as your school of first choice.

<blockquote>Makes sense. Its their school and their money,</blockquote>
Of course it does!

<blockquote>but they do give honest students a honorable out should they receive a subsequent offer from a preferred law school sans the depost of course.</blockquote>
OK, I quit!

Now, back to serious business:
Since (hopefully now) everybody agrees that there is a breach in case you accept a scholarship-offer from NYU and then decide to enroll in another school (H/Y, whatever), some have asked what would NYU do in this case, if and how can they "punish" you.
For other Boston Legal fans that happen to be around: no, they won't take you to court.

Thay can do 3 things, to my knowledge:
1. Blacklist you from any future NYU thing. Unlikely that they actually have a black list, but might happen.
2. Let other schools know about your lack of ethical behavior (it is not hard to know which could be the one you're enrolling in, there are some 6 or 7 other schools "worth" the move). Keep in mind that schools have ties much more important to them than the mere fact of getting one slightly better candidate (you're not the Tiger Woods of law, I'm sorry to tell). So if you're going for this, make sure that the law school of your first choice is aware of the situation and agrees to maintain its offer.
3. They can contact your recommenders and let them know. They won't like it, believe me. Your recommenders are putting their prestige behind you, not only informing you are an academically worth candidate, but that you are a person of integrity worth of NYU (H/Y, etc.). NYU may stop paying attention to your recommenders' recommendees from now on...

Those are my 2 cents.
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hi, i also have an offer from nyu with a 10k grant and not more than 6 days to decide. i have applied to harvard and yale because i say to myself, you have achance since i think my resume is good but i have not herd anything from yale and hls is also advising i accept any offer i have got.

i am worried that if i accept nyu and later back out they will inform harvard. someone told me that they do report a few people. is this true ? please help

hi, i also have an offer from nyu with a 10k grant and not more than 6 days to decide. i have applied to harvard and yale because i say to myself, you have achance since i think my resume is good but i have not herd anything from yale and hls is also advising i accept any offer i have got.

i am worried that if i accept nyu and later back out they will inform harvard. someone told me that they do report a few people. is this true ? please help
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