Hi, I filled in my foreign evaluation form for the NY bar exam. In the form they ask whether you have completed or are enrolled at a program of study at an approved law school and initially I answered “yes” (as I will be starting my LLM program in October) but subsequently they asked these questions in past tense, such as did you attend all classes in the US and did you take any of the classes online etc. which is why then I changed my answer to no (as I thought they questions mandated that you have finished at least a portion of the course and technically I enroll in October). My question is - should my answer have been yes and just answered those questions on the basis of what I thought? Can I change it now? If I can’t change it, what can I do? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
NY BAR - foreign evaluation request
Posted Jun 19, 2019 09:03
Posted Jun 26, 2019 20:40
You probably want to contact the bar association and ask them these questions directly.
It's a bit of an odd procedure, since they need the evaluation done at least 6 months in advance of taking the bar (and why would you wait to fill it out until after you're done with the LLM?) Doesn't make a lot of sense.
It's a bit of an odd procedure, since they need the evaluation done at least 6 months in advance of taking the bar (and why would you wait to fill it out until after you're done with the LLM?) Doesn't make a lot of sense.
Posted Jun 28, 2019 11:02
If you find the answer @Applicant4... I think a lot of us would be grateful if you could write it here, this process is mind-boggling...
Posted Jun 28, 2019 22:30
So I did speak to them and they told me that they will judge the evaluation as per the college transcripts mainly and that to fill the form as I deem fit and if I want I can send them additional information in the form of a mail/ fax. So I indicated that I am not currently enrolled and then faxed them a latter stating that I will start my program in October 2019 and when I called them they said they have added my letter to my file. They also recommended that since changes can take place between now and October 2019, to send them intimation when I do actually start my program letting them know that I have started it.
Posted Jul 02, 2019 14:31
That's great that you got that worked out.
Posted Sep 07, 2019 15:07
Hi,
In my case, I am a french student currently applying for a LLM degree for 2020/21 and I saw on the NY bar website that a new requirement was necessary to be eligible for the NY bar admission: satisfy a Skills Competency Requirement (in addition to all existing bar admission requirements) effective as of August 1, 2018 for LL.M. students who plan to qualify for the bar exam using their LL.M. degree.
Does anyone know about this new requirement and how it can be satisfy?
Thanks
In my case, I am a french student currently applying for a LLM degree for 2020/21 and I saw on the NY bar website that a new requirement was necessary to be eligible for the NY bar admission: satisfy a Skills Competency Requirement (in addition to all existing bar admission requirements) effective as of August 1, 2018 for LL.M. students who plan to qualify for the bar exam using their LL.M. degree.
Does anyone know about this new requirement and how it can be satisfy?
Thanks
Posted Sep 08, 2019 21:49
Hi,
In my case, I am a french student currently applying for a LLM degree for 2020/21 and I saw on the NY bar website that a new requirement was necessary to be eligible for the NY bar admission: satisfy a Skills Competency Requirement (in addition to all existing bar admission requirements) effective as of August 1, 2018 for LL.M. students who plan to qualify for the bar exam using their LL.M. degree.
Does anyone know about this new requirement and how it can be satisfy?
Thanks
Hey !
I am also French and I am currently an LLM student.
Concerning your question, to satisfy a skills Competency Requirement, you will have to satisfy the requirement via one of several "Pathway" options. There are three Pathways possible for LLM students :
- Pathway 1: Additional LLM coursework , this is a burdensome Pathway that requires the completion of 6 additional units of LLM coursework and a minimum overall total of 27 units for the LLM degree. (Only students who cannot qualify under Pathways 4 and 5 may plan to use this Pathway).
- Pathway 4: Full-time Apprenticeship of at least 6 months in a law office. This is an appealing Pathway as it can be completed after the bar exam has been successfully passed. Via this Pathway no additional LLM coursework is necessary for students. I chose this Pathway. It has to be a continuous apprenticeship of 6 months. (As a foreign educated bar applicant you are allowed to complete your six-month apprenticeship before commencing the LLM program, as long as the apprenticeship commenced after you completed your foreign law degree - by "completion of your foreign law degree" they are talking about your Master 1).
- Pathway 5: At least one year of full-time practice, or two years of part-time practice, as a licensed attorney in a jurisdiction outside New-York. Like Pathway 4 this work can be completed after the bar exam has been successfully passed and no additional LLM coursework is needed.
In my case, I am a french student currently applying for a LLM degree for 2020/21 and I saw on the NY bar website that a new requirement was necessary to be eligible for the NY bar admission: satisfy a Skills Competency Requirement (in addition to all existing bar admission requirements) effective as of August 1, 2018 for LL.M. students who plan to qualify for the bar exam using their LL.M. degree.
Does anyone know about this new requirement and how it can be satisfy?
Thanks [/quote]
Hey !
I am also French and I am currently an LLM student.
Concerning your question, to satisfy a skills Competency Requirement, you will have to satisfy the requirement via one of several "Pathway" options. There are three Pathways possible for LLM students :
- Pathway 1: Additional LLM coursework , this is a burdensome Pathway that requires the completion of 6 additional units of LLM coursework and a minimum overall total of 27 units for the LLM degree. (Only students who cannot qualify under Pathways 4 and 5 may plan to use this Pathway).
- Pathway 4: Full-time Apprenticeship of at least 6 months in a law office. This is an appealing Pathway as it can be completed after the bar exam has been successfully passed. Via this Pathway no additional LLM coursework is necessary for students. I chose this Pathway. It has to be a continuous apprenticeship of 6 months. (As a foreign educated bar applicant you are allowed to complete your six-month apprenticeship before commencing the LLM program, as long as the apprenticeship commenced after you completed your foreign law degree - by "completion of your foreign law degree" they are talking about your Master 1).
- Pathway 5: At least one year of full-time practice, or two years of part-time practice, as a licensed attorney in a jurisdiction outside New-York. Like Pathway 4 this work can be completed after the bar exam has been successfully passed and no additional LLM coursework is needed.
Posted Sep 15, 2019 17:28
Hi,
In my case, I am a french student currently applying for a LLM degree for 2020/21 and I saw on the NY bar website that a new requirement was necessary to be eligible for the NY bar admission: satisfy a Skills Competency Requirement (in addition to all existing bar admission requirements) effective as of August 1, 2018 for LL.M. students who plan to qualify for the bar exam using their LL.M. degree.
Does anyone know about this new requirement and how it can be satisfy?
Thanks
Hey !
I am also French and I am currently an LLM student.
Concerning your question, to satisfy a skills Competency Requirement, you will have to satisfy the requirement via one of several "Pathway" options. There are three Pathways possible for LLM students :
- Pathway 1: Additional LLM coursework , this is a burdensome Pathway that requires the completion of 6 additional units of LLM coursework and a minimum overall total of 27 units for the LLM degree. (Only students who cannot qualify under Pathways 4 and 5 may plan to use this Pathway).
- Pathway 4: Full-time Apprenticeship of at least 6 months in a law office. This is an appealing Pathway as it can be completed after the bar exam has been successfully passed. Via this Pathway no additional LLM coursework is necessary for students. I chose this Pathway. It has to be a continuous apprenticeship of 6 months. (As a foreign educated bar applicant you are allowed to complete your six-month apprenticeship before commencing the LLM program, as long as the apprenticeship commenced after you completed your foreign law degree - by "completion of your foreign law degree" they are talking about your Master 1).
- Pathway 5: At least one year of full-time practice, or two years of part-time practice, as a licensed attorney in a jurisdiction outside New-York. Like Pathway 4 this work can be completed after the bar exam has been successfully passed and no additional LLM coursework is needed.
Okay thank you so much for your answer, I didn’t know we could complete it after the bar exam
In my case, I am a french student currently applying for a LLM degree for 2020/21 and I saw on the NY bar website that a new requirement was necessary to be eligible for the NY bar admission: satisfy a Skills Competency Requirement (in addition to all existing bar admission requirements) effective as of August 1, 2018 for LL.M. students who plan to qualify for the bar exam using their LL.M. degree.
Does anyone know about this new requirement and how it can be satisfy?
Thanks [/quote]
Hey !
I am also French and I am currently an LLM student.
Concerning your question, to satisfy a skills Competency Requirement, you will have to satisfy the requirement via one of several "Pathway" options. There are three Pathways possible for LLM students :
- Pathway 1: Additional LLM coursework , this is a burdensome Pathway that requires the completion of 6 additional units of LLM coursework and a minimum overall total of 27 units for the LLM degree. (Only students who cannot qualify under Pathways 4 and 5 may plan to use this Pathway).
- Pathway 4: Full-time Apprenticeship of at least 6 months in a law office. This is an appealing Pathway as it can be completed after the bar exam has been successfully passed. Via this Pathway no additional LLM coursework is necessary for students. I chose this Pathway. It has to be a continuous apprenticeship of 6 months. (As a foreign educated bar applicant you are allowed to complete your six-month apprenticeship before commencing the LLM program, as long as the apprenticeship commenced after you completed your foreign law degree - by "completion of your foreign law degree" they are talking about your Master 1).
- Pathway 5: At least one year of full-time practice, or two years of part-time practice, as a licensed attorney in a jurisdiction outside New-York. Like Pathway 4 this work can be completed after the bar exam has been successfully passed and no additional LLM coursework is needed. [/quote]
Okay thank you so much for your answer, I didn’t know we could complete it after the bar exam
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