New York Bar Exam


Hello everyone, I have a question about the New York Bar Exam. How can i know which schools approved by examiners for L.L.M. ? or every school in USA okay for the NY exam ? Thanks and appreciate!

[Edited by Enesyildirim on Sep 25, 2017]

Hello everyone, I have a question about the New York Bar Exam. How can i know which schools approved by examiners for L.L.M. ? or every school in USA okay for the NY exam ? Thanks and appreciate!
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Thanks a lott. Also do you have any idea about the shifts of the programs ? I mean full time-Part time. Both of them approved by ABA and New York Bar Examiners right ?

Thanks a lott. Also do you have any idea about the shifts of the programs ? I mean full time-Part time. Both of them approved by ABA and New York Bar Examiners right ?
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Poli

Anyone knows about the Skills requirement for LLM 2018 students? How will students fill that new requirement, will the universities allow us to do more credits and will send us the pathway 1 certification?
This is an extract from Georgetown's website:

SKILLS COMPETENCY REQUIREMENT

In December 2015, the New York Court of Appeals adopted a Skills Competency Requirement for admission to the New York Bar. However, this requirement does not apply to foreign-trained lawyers who need an LL.M. to establish bar eligibility until the class beginning LL.M. studies in 2018.(Note that this is a requirement for admission and not for bar exam eligibility.)
https://www.law.georgetown.edu/academics/academic-programs/graduate-programs/us-bar/New-York-Bar-Examination.cfm

Anyone knows about the Skills requirement for LLM 2018 students? How will students fill that new requirement, will the universities allow us to do more credits and will send us the pathway 1 certification?
This is an extract from Georgetown's website:

SKILLS COMPETENCY REQUIREMENT

In December 2015, the New York Court of Appeals adopted a Skills Competency Requirement for admission to the New York Bar. However, this requirement does not apply to foreign-trained lawyers who need an LL.M. to establish bar eligibility until the class beginning LL.M. studies in 2018.(Note that this is a requirement for admission and not for bar exam eligibility.)
https://www.law.georgetown.edu/academics/academic-programs/graduate-programs/us-bar/New-York-Bar-Examination.cfm
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imarkon

Adding to this thread.

Does somebody know if I am eligible for the bar exam with a LLM from the National University of Singapore?

Thanks!

Adding to this thread.

Does somebody know if I am eligible for the bar exam with a LLM from the National University of Singapore?

Thanks!
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Adding to this thread.

Does somebody know if I am eligible for the bar exam with a LLM from the National University of Singapore?

Thanks!


Where did you complete your undergraduate legal studies? If you completed your undergraduate legal studies from a school that teaches the common law (e.g. England, Australia, New Zealand), you can take the New York Bar - if you did not, your LL.M. from NUS will not make you eligible.

[Edited by LLMSherpa.COM on Nov 07, 2017]

[quote]Adding to this thread.

Does somebody know if I am eligible for the bar exam with a LLM from the National University of Singapore?

Thanks![/quote]

Where did you complete your undergraduate legal studies? If you completed your undergraduate legal studies from a school that teaches the common law (e.g. England, Australia, New Zealand), you can take the New York Bar - if you did not, your LL.M. from NUS will not make you eligible.
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chococho

Anyone knows about the Skills requirement for LLM 2018 students? How will students fill that new requirement, will the universities allow us to do more credits and will send us the pathway 1 certification?
This is an extract from Georgetown's website:

SKILLS COMPETENCY REQUIREMENT

In December 2015, the New York Court of Appeals adopted a Skills Competency Requirement for admission to the New York Bar. However, this requirement does not apply to foreign-trained lawyers who need an LL.M. to establish bar eligibility until the class beginning LL.M. studies in 2018.(Note that this is a requirement for admission and not for bar exam eligibility.)
https://www.law.georgetown.edu/academics/academic-programs/graduate-programs/us-bar/New-York-Bar-Examination.cfm


@Poli : Do you have more information about this new requirement ? On the website of Cornell University, it is written that we should follow pathway (4) or (5) :

"If you plan to take the NY Bar in July 2019 request your Foreign Evaluation of Academic Credentials now. You can also review New York Bar requirements here: NYS Bar Memo. 2018-2019 updates will be listed in late-June. Please note that NY has a new skills competency requirement. Foreign educated applicants who are required to complete an LLM at an ABA-approved law school may satisfy this requirement by submitting proof of compliance with either pathway (4) Apprenticeship, or, (5) Practice in another jurisdiction."

[quote]Anyone knows about the Skills requirement for LLM 2018 students? How will students fill that new requirement, will the universities allow us to do more credits and will send us the pathway 1 certification?
This is an extract from Georgetown's website:

SKILLS COMPETENCY REQUIREMENT

In December 2015, the New York Court of Appeals adopted a Skills Competency Requirement for admission to the New York Bar. However, this requirement does not apply to foreign-trained lawyers who need an LL.M. to establish bar eligibility until the class beginning LL.M. studies in 2018.(Note that this is a requirement for admission and not for bar exam eligibility.)
https://www.law.georgetown.edu/academics/academic-programs/graduate-programs/us-bar/New-York-Bar-Examination.cfm [/quote]

@Poli : Do you have more information about this new requirement ? On the website of Cornell University, it is written that we should follow pathway (4) or (5) :

"If you plan to take the NY Bar in July 2019 request your Foreign Evaluation of Academic Credentials now. You can also review New York Bar requirements here: NYS Bar Memo. 2018-2019 updates will be listed in late-June. Please note that NY has a new skills competency requirement. Foreign educated applicants who are required to complete an LLM at an ABA-approved law school may satisfy this requirement by submitting proof of compliance with either pathway (4) Apprenticeship, or, (5) Practice in another jurisdiction."
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AdmissionL...

As an LLM student, typically only pathways 4 and 5 will be possible. This is mainly due to a lack of offers from universities for this short period of study.
But it is particularly important to bear in mind that the requirement can still be fulfilled up to three years after the examinations.

(Unfortunately, it is especially annoying that you can't add the necessary times through different stations.)

[Edited by AdmissionLLM on Feb 20, 2018]

As an LLM student, typically only pathways 4 and 5 will be possible. This is mainly due to a lack of offers from universities for this short period of study.
But it is particularly important to bear in mind that the requirement can still be fulfilled up to three years after the examinations.

(Unfortunately, it is especially annoying that you can't add the necessary times through different stations.)
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mahsa-jf

Adding to this thread.

Does somebody know if I am eligible for the bar exam with a LLM from the National University of Singapore?

Thanks!


Where did you complete your undergraduate legal studies? If you completed your undergraduate legal studies from a school that teaches the common law (e.g. England, Australia, New Zealand), you can take the New York Bar - if you did not, your LL.M. from NUS will not make you eligible.

[quote][quote]Adding to this thread.

Does somebody know if I am eligible for the bar exam with a LLM from the National University of Singapore?

Thanks![/quote]

Where did you complete your undergraduate legal studies? If you completed your undergraduate legal studies from a school that teaches the common law (e.g. England, Australia, New Zealand), you can take the New York Bar - if you did not, your LL.M. from NUS will not make you eligible. [/quote]
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mahsa-jf

as an international student desiring to pass my llm degree in american universities, do you think I will be allowed to the NYK bar exam?

as an international student desiring to pass my llm degree in american universities, do you think I will be allowed to the NYK bar exam?
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jwpetterch...

as an international student desiring to pass my llm degree in american universities, do you think I will be allowed to the NYK bar exam?


Depends. Are you licensed to practice law in your home country? Is that home country’s law based on common law or civil law?

[quote]as an international student desiring to pass my llm degree in american universities, do you think I will be allowed to the NYK bar exam? [/quote]

Depends. Are you licensed to practice law in your home country? Is that home country’s law based on common law or civil law?
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as an international student desiring to pass my llm degree in american universities, do you think I will be allowed to the NYK bar exam?


Depends. Are you licensed to practice law in your home country? Is that home country’s law based on common law or civil law?


What if both? Like the Philippines—which is both a civil law and a common law jurisdiction

[quote][quote]as an international student desiring to pass my llm degree in american universities, do you think I will be allowed to the NYK bar exam? [/quote]

Depends. Are you licensed to practice law in your home country? Is that home country’s law based on common law or civil law? [/quote]

What if both? Like the Philippines—which is both a civil law and a common law jurisdiction
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jwpetterch...

Scotland and Quebec are both combined civil law/common law legal systems and graduates with degrees in Quebec or Scottish law are both allowed to take the NY bar exam without an LLM. I have advised them. In order to get permission, you need to do some paperwork for Board of Legal Examiners that costs no money except for postage and copying. I wrote a how-to guide for this that is on LinkedIn but I cannot post links here so google my name and find my profile.
I knew a guy who I worked with a Legal Aid who was from the Philippines and was in the process of moving to Arizona with his doctor wife and was planning to do immigration law out there. I don’t know if he had an LLM or just sent his transcripts in to the BOLE and took the exam.

[Edited by jwpetterchak on Apr 25, 2020]

Scotland and Quebec are both combined civil law/common law legal systems and graduates with degrees in Quebec or Scottish law are both allowed to take the NY bar exam without an LLM. I have advised them. In order to get permission, you need to do some paperwork for Board of Legal Examiners that costs no money except for postage and copying. I wrote a how-to guide for this that is on LinkedIn but I cannot post links here so google my name and find my profile.<div><br></div><div>I knew a guy who I worked with a Legal Aid who was from the Philippines and was in the process of moving to Arizona with his doctor wife and was planning to do immigration law out there. I don’t know if he had an LLM or just sent his transcripts in to the BOLE and took the exam.</div>
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cs16

Scotland and Quebec are both combined civil law/common law legal systems and graduates with degrees in Quebec or Scottish law are both allowed to take the NY bar exam without an LLM. I have advised them. In order to get permission, you need to do some paperwork for Board of Legal Examiners that costs no money except for postage and copying. I wrote a how-to guide for this that is on LinkedIn but I cannot post links here so google my name and find my profile.
I knew a guy who I worked with a Legal Aid who was from the Philippines and was in the process of moving to Arizona with his doctor wife and was planning to do immigration law out there. I don’t know if he had an LLM or just sent his transcripts in to the BOLE and took the exam.

Thank You, I read your post on LinkedIn and it was very insightful.

[quote]Scotland and Quebec are both combined civil law/common law legal systems and graduates with degrees in Quebec or Scottish law are both allowed to take the NY bar exam without an LLM. I have advised them. In order to get permission, you need to do some paperwork for Board of Legal Examiners that costs no money except for postage and copying. I wrote a how-to guide for this that is on LinkedIn but I cannot post links here so google my name and find my profile.<div><br></div><div>I knew a guy who I worked with a Legal Aid who was from the Philippines and was in the process of moving to Arizona with his doctor wife and was planning to do immigration law out there. I don’t know if he had an LLM or just sent his transcripts in to the BOLE and took the exam.</div> [/quote]<div><br></div><div>Thank You, I read your post on LinkedIn and it was very insightful.</div>
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cs16

I had scheduled a conversation with one of the barbri international legal advicers and over the course of the conversation, I was told that the pathway to register for the NY Bar without an LLM requirement for Indians is more valid in theory than practice. However, the University in which I am pursuing my bachelor degree in law does satisfy the requirements set out on the BOLE website for foreign graduates intending to register without an LLM Degree. Any further information on registering for the NY Bar Exam without an LLM, particularly for Indian applicants, would be helpful.

I had scheduled a conversation with one of the barbri international legal advicers and over the course of the conversation, I was told that the pathway to register for the NY Bar without an LLM requirement for Indians is more valid in theory than practice. However, the University in which I am pursuing my bachelor degree in law does satisfy the requirements set out on the BOLE website for foreign graduates intending to register without an LLM Degree. Any further information on registering for the NY Bar Exam without an LLM, particularly for Indian applicants, would be helpful.
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cs16

I had scheduled a conversation with one of the barbri international legal advicers and over the course of the conversation, I was told that the pathway to register for the NY Bar without an LLM requirement for Indians is more valid in theory than practice. However, the University in which I am pursuing my bachelor degree in law does satisfy the requirements set out on the BOLE website for foreign graduates intending to register without an LLM Degree. Any further information on registering for the NY Bar Exam without an LLM, particularly for Indian applicants, would be helpful.

While I intend to pursue an LLM from an ABA approved law school in potentially two years from now, I want to explore the possibilities of passing the UBE before that. I will complete my bachelor degree in a couple of months and intend on being admitted to the bar in my country by the end of the year. As far as preparation materials are concerned, I've been considering barbri and barmax. I was able to obtain some barbri materials from the 2014 and 2015 UBE exams online, how useful will this be, given that the UBE was introduced in NY in 2016? I want to have a  systematic understanding on going about preparation for the NY Bar exam, so I am considering testing out available materials before actually purchasing barbri or barmax. Am I taking the right approach?

[quote]I had scheduled a conversation with one of the barbri international legal advicers and over the course of the conversation, I was told that the pathway to register for the NY Bar without an LLM requirement for Indians is more valid in theory than practice. However, the University in which I am pursuing my bachelor degree in law does satisfy the requirements set out on the BOLE website for foreign graduates intending to register without an LLM Degree. Any further information on registering for the NY Bar Exam without an LLM, particularly for Indian applicants, would be helpful. [/quote]<div><br></div><div>While I intend to pursue an LLM from an ABA approved law school in potentially two years from now, I want to explore the possibilities of passing the UBE before that. I will complete my bachelor degree in a couple of months and intend on being admitted to the bar in my country by the end of the year. As far as preparation materials are concerned, I've been considering barbri and barmax. I was able to obtain some barbri materials from the 2014 and 2015 UBE exams online, how useful will this be, given that the UBE was introduced in NY in 2016? I want to have a&nbsp; systematic understanding on going about preparation for the NY Bar exam, so I am considering testing out available materials before actually purchasing barbri or barmax. Am I taking the right approach?<br></div>
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