Michigan 2016/2017


Corfin
Creating this thread for all of those who are applying/interested in LLM at Michigan Law. If you have any questions let me know!!
Creating this thread for all of those who are applying/interested in LLM at Michigan Law. If you have any questions let me know!!
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bernaise
Applied in mid december! Waiting for the decision :).
Applied in mid december! Waiting for the decision :).
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Hey Corfin, thanks for starting.

I applied in mid-December too and waiting for a decision. I have a few questions.

a) When did you get accepted to Michigan?
b) How are you finding the cold weather in Michigan? Is it bearable?
c) What is the law community like at Michigan; are the LLM students warmly accepted by the JD students or do the LLM students keep to themselves.
d) Any other comments on your time at Michigan so far or things you wish you knew when you were choosing between schools?

Thanks a bunch!

CR
Hey Corfin, thanks for starting.

I applied in mid-December too and waiting for a decision. I have a few questions.

a) When did you get accepted to Michigan?
b) How are you finding the cold weather in Michigan? Is it bearable?
c) What is the law community like at Michigan; are the LLM students warmly accepted by the JD students or do the LLM students keep to themselves.
d) Any other comments on your time at Michigan so far or things you wish you knew when you were choosing between schools?

Thanks a bunch!

CR
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Corfin
Hey

1) I received my admission on February 14. I believe I got mine in the first wave.
2)cold weather was never an issue for me as I come from a four season geographic area. As someone who is used to cold winters I can honestly say that winter in Michigan was not special in any way - just regular winter weather.
3)the community in Michigan is amazing. It is hard to exaplain how welcoming and helpful the community is -LLMs get their representatives in the student senate, students organizations, in legal community affairs and social events (such as annual comeptitions). Since the LLM class is really small you get a lot of attention from the administration (maybe too much sometimes), the career service center etc.
4) one thing that I would emphasize is precisely the approach and attitude towards the LLM class. E,g, Decline in enrollement has hit all law schools in thr U.S even the T14. There is a number of measures that the schools may implement to tackle the situation - however Michigan never though of comprimising its unique small LLM class by accepting more and more students to make for the losses in the J.D program. If you think about it is pretty amazing. A lot of schools have the LLM program as a CASH cow and by no means it is a priority of the school's administration (to be honest I especially got this feeling from UPENN which was my number 1 choice at first but after my admission and communication with the administration and alumni my interest in UPENN quickly disappeared.). Michigan never compromised its LLM program. This might be one of the less obvious factors that, in my opinion, any LLM prospective student should take into consideration.


Hey Corfin, thanks for starting.

I applied in mid-December too and waiting for a decision. I have a few questions.

a) When did you get accepted to Michigan?
b) How are you finding the cold weather in Michigan? Is it bearable?
c) What is the law community like at Michigan; are the LLM students warmly accepted by the JD students or do the LLM students keep to themselves.
d) Any other comments on your time at Michigan so far or things you wish you knew when you were choosing between schools?

Thanks a bunch!

CR
Hey

1) I received my admission on February 14. I believe I got mine in the first wave.
2)cold weather was never an issue for me as I come from a four season geographic area. As someone who is used to cold winters I can honestly say that winter in Michigan was not special in any way - just regular winter weather.
3)the community in Michigan is amazing. It is hard to exaplain how welcoming and helpful the community is -LLMs get their representatives in the student senate, students organizations, in legal community affairs and social events (such as annual comeptitions). Since the LLM class is really small you get a lot of attention from the administration (maybe too much sometimes), the career service center etc.
4) one thing that I would emphasize is precisely the approach and attitude towards the LLM class. E,g, Decline in enrollement has hit all law schools in thr U.S even the T14. There is a number of measures that the schools may implement to tackle the situation - however Michigan never though of comprimising its unique small LLM class by accepting more and more students to make for the losses in the J.D program. If you think about it is pretty amazing. A lot of schools have the LLM program as a CASH cow and by no means it is a priority of the school's administration (to be honest I especially got this feeling from UPENN which was my number 1 choice at first but after my admission and communication with the administration and alumni my interest in UPENN quickly disappeared.). Michigan never compromised its LLM program. This might be one of the less obvious factors that, in my opinion, any LLM prospective student should take into consideration.


<blockquote>Hey Corfin, thanks for starting.

I applied in mid-December too and waiting for a decision. I have a few questions.

a) When did you get accepted to Michigan?
b) How are you finding the cold weather in Michigan? Is it bearable?
c) What is the law community like at Michigan; are the LLM students warmly accepted by the JD students or do the LLM students keep to themselves.
d) Any other comments on your time at Michigan so far or things you wish you knew when you were choosing between schools?

Thanks a bunch!

CR</blockquote>
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Dear Corfin, thank you very much for your helpful response. I have continually heard that about Michigan - that they are extremely helpful to their LLM candidates. One last question, how is living in Ann Arbor?
Dear Corfin, thank you very much for your helpful response. I have continually heard that about Michigan - that they are extremely helpful to their LLM candidates. One last question, how is living in Ann Arbor?
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Corfin
Basically youhave two options as far as housing
1) you opt in for a room in the lawyers club - quite fancy and substantially more expansive option compared to off campus housing. On the other hand you basically live in the law school which is very very very convenient.

2) you go live off camus - AnnArbor is 100% student city pretty much every housein the city is for lease so overall I got the feeling that the supply might have exceeded the demand so even if you come in without any housing arrangements you would be able to get a room after your arrival. of course you dont wanna take just anything as quality of housing differ (dah).

All in all - the city, environment and living conditions of Ann Arbor is often a major factor that draws a lot people (especially those coming with families) to Michigan (often from "better ranked T14 schools"). Needless to say that the living expenses are much lower that in major cities (if you live off campus you will come to realize that the living expenses that are listed on mlaw websites are quite overstated).

Dear Corfin, thank you very much for your helpful response. I have continually heard that about Michigan - that they are extremely helpful to their LLM candidates. One last question, how is living in Ann Arbor?
Basically youhave two options as far as housing
1) you opt in for a room in the lawyers club - quite fancy and substantially more expansive option compared to off campus housing. On the other hand you basically live in the law school which is very very very convenient.

2) you go live off camus - AnnArbor is 100% student city pretty much every housein the city is for lease so overall I got the feeling that the supply might have exceeded the demand so even if you come in without any housing arrangements you would be able to get a room after your arrival. of course you dont wanna take just anything as quality of housing differ (dah).

All in all - the city, environment and living conditions of Ann Arbor is often a major factor that draws a lot people (especially those coming with families) to Michigan (often from "better ranked T14 schools"). Needless to say that the living expenses are much lower that in major cities (if you live off campus you will come to realize that the living expenses that are listed on mlaw websites are quite overstated).

<blockquote>Dear Corfin, thank you very much for your helpful response. I have continually heard that about Michigan - that they are extremely helpful to their LLM candidates. One last question, how is living in Ann Arbor?</blockquote>
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shaymoy
Hi,
I applied in early december.

Someone else applied for the int. taxation program?
Hi,
I applied in early december.

Someone else applied for the int. taxation program?
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Hi everybody,

I've just been admitted today!! Good luck folks!

Best,
Hi everybody,

I've just been admitted today!! Good luck folks!

Best,
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I have just been admitted too. This is exciting!

P.S thanks for all your help and advice Corfin!
I have just been admitted too. This is exciting!

P.S thanks for all your help and advice Corfin!
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Corfin
I have just been admitted too. This is exciting!

P.S thanks for all your help and advice Corfin!


Congratulations to you all.. if you have any further questions feel free to ask here or pm..
<blockquote>I have just been admitted too. This is exciting!

P.S thanks for all your help and advice Corfin!</blockquote>

Congratulations to you all.. if you have any further questions feel free to ask here or pm..
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ziu
Hey,

How long after submitting the application did it take for you to get a confirmation mail (confirming that the application is received) from Michigan?

Thanks!
Hey,

How long after submitting the application did it take for you to get a confirmation mail (confirming that the application is received) from Michigan?

Thanks!
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Wheretogo_
About 6 days for me!
About 6 days for me!
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bzp
I believe I second pretty much everything Corfin said about Michigan.

Throughout the whole admissions' period, Michigan's staff was by far the most welcoming (especially if compared to other top law schools like UPenn, Columbia and NYU).

This welcoming feeling was confirmed when I arrived in Ann Arbor last fall and it hasn't waned a single bit since then.

Even though I was accepted to other "higher ranked" law schools, Michigan became my first option as soon as the admissions' folder arrived in my house hahaha.

Aside from the outstanding law program the school offers (with no restrictions on classes one might take, for example), all students - and that includes LLMs - are easily integrated in the community as a whole.

Ann Arbor is an amazing place to live, the college atmosphere is unique - especially for us foreigners that seldomly have that sort of thing in our home countries - and if you are a huge fan of sports like myself, the Michigan Wolverines are the best in the country.

Anyhow, just like Corfin said, feel free to ask any further questions you might have. And one last advice: US News rankings serve for JD programs, not LLMs. And even for JD programs, there are several other rankings that change substantially the order of the law firms. Do not take these "official" rankings as absolute truth.

Good luck!
I believe I second pretty much everything Corfin said about Michigan.

Throughout the whole admissions' period, Michigan's staff was by far the most welcoming (especially if compared to other top law schools like UPenn, Columbia and NYU).

This welcoming feeling was confirmed when I arrived in Ann Arbor last fall and it hasn't waned a single bit since then.

Even though I was accepted to other "higher ranked" law schools, Michigan became my first option as soon as the admissions' folder arrived in my house hahaha.

Aside from the outstanding law program the school offers (with no restrictions on classes one might take, for example), all students - and that includes LLMs - are easily integrated in the community as a whole.

Ann Arbor is an amazing place to live, the college atmosphere is unique - especially for us foreigners that seldomly have that sort of thing in our home countries - and if you are a huge fan of sports like myself, the Michigan Wolverines are the best in the country.

Anyhow, just like Corfin said, feel free to ask any further questions you might have. And one last advice: US News rankings serve for JD programs, not LLMs. And even for JD programs, there are several other rankings that change substantially the order of the law firms. Do not take these "official" rankings as absolute truth.

Good luck!
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chamjin
Thank you corfin and the others for creating this. I got into the LLM program and Michigan is my top choice so far. I wanted to know a little about what students do upon graduation from the LLM program? Do they tend to find it easier to find internships or jobs with some US law firms? Also, how does the preparation for the NY bar work for LLM students? Can LLM's take part in clinics easily?
Thank you corfin and the others for creating this. I got into the LLM program and Michigan is my top choice so far. I wanted to know a little about what students do upon graduation from the LLM program? Do they tend to find it easier to find internships or jobs with some US law firms? Also, how does the preparation for the NY bar work for LLM students? Can LLM's take part in clinics easily?
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Corfin
Thank you corfin and the others for creating this. I got into the LLM program and Michigan is my top choice so far. I wanted to know a little about what students do upon graduation from the LLM program? Do they tend to find it easier to find internships or jobs with some US law firms? Also, how does the preparation for the NY bar work for LLM students? Can LLM's take part in clinics easily?


What people do after graduation differs, obviously. Many students had made arrangements before coming to Michigan and have a job in the U.S secured ahead of time. Others just go back home as they never intended to stay in the U.S. In general, finding a job on your own is hard - not impossible - but hard. I am sure that you are familar with the U.S legal job market (its getting better but still not good enough, esoecially for LLMs). If you do not have any contacts in the U.S or havent made any arrangements I think the New York llm job fair would be your best shot. Michigan participates in a job fair where only a handful other school are invited (Stanford, Harvard, Chicago etc.) I definitely think this is abig advantage for Michigan LLMs (there is another job fair in New YOrk where most of other law schools and llms participate but this job fair has disadvantages= too many people, too many law schools). Of course, more than anything else, your chances of landing a job depend on your background and other nonacademic factors = country of origin, language skills etc.

LLM students can participate in any course offered by Michigan Law - upper class, seminar, first year courses, clinics, practicum. Whatever you see in the course offer you can take. This is truly amazing. In fact, you can apply to particpate in any course offered at the University - especially the Ross Business School and the Ford School of Public Policy might be of many students interest.
<blockquote>Thank you corfin and the others for creating this. I got into the LLM program and Michigan is my top choice so far. I wanted to know a little about what students do upon graduation from the LLM program? Do they tend to find it easier to find internships or jobs with some US law firms? Also, how does the preparation for the NY bar work for LLM students? Can LLM's take part in clinics easily? </blockquote>

What people do after graduation differs, obviously. Many students had made arrangements before coming to Michigan and have a job in the U.S secured ahead of time. Others just go back home as they never intended to stay in the U.S. In general, finding a job on your own is hard - not impossible - but hard. I am sure that you are familar with the U.S legal job market (its getting better but still not good enough, esoecially for LLMs). If you do not have any contacts in the U.S or havent made any arrangements I think the New York llm job fair would be your best shot. Michigan participates in a job fair where only a handful other school are invited (Stanford, Harvard, Chicago etc.) I definitely think this is abig advantage for Michigan LLMs (there is another job fair in New YOrk where most of other law schools and llms participate but this job fair has disadvantages= too many people, too many law schools). Of course, more than anything else, your chances of landing a job depend on your background and other nonacademic factors = country of origin, language skills etc.

LLM students can participate in any course offered by Michigan Law - upper class, seminar, first year courses, clinics, practicum. Whatever you see in the course offer you can take. This is truly amazing. In fact, you can apply to particpate in any course offered at the University - especially the Ross Business School and the Ford School of Public Policy might be of many students interest.
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ziu
Is there anyone else who applied on or around the deadline (January 31) and still hasn't received an email from Michigan confirming receiving the application?
Is there anyone else who applied on or around the deadline (January 31) and still hasn't received an email from Michigan confirming receiving the application?
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rest
Did anyone get the admission decision this week?
Did anyone get the admission decision this week?
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ziu
Hey,

a couple of questions:

1) Does anyone know/has anyone asked when the fellowship/scholarship decisions are going to be made?

2) The admission letter reads "Please let us know the results, as you learn them, of any other applications you have made for financial assistance for your studies in the U.S." Does anyone know if that is aimed at the scholarship offers made by the other schools we've applied to, or the decisions regarding any potential third-party aid sources we've heard back from?

Cheers!
Hey,

a couple of questions:

1) Does anyone know/has anyone asked when the fellowship/scholarship decisions are going to be made?

2) The admission letter reads "Please let us know the results, as you learn them, of any other applications you have made for financial assistance for your studies in the U.S." Does anyone know if that is aimed at the scholarship offers made by the other schools we've applied to, or the decisions regarding any potential third-party aid sources we've heard back from?

Cheers!
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FrankC
They responded me an e-mail a couple weeks ago and they said that such decisions will be released by the second half of March.
They responded me an e-mail a couple weeks ago and they said that such decisions will be released by the second half of March.
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ziu
Sounds great, thanks!

Do you happen to have any information regarding my second question, what is your understanding of the instruction?
Sounds great, thanks!

Do you happen to have any information regarding my second question, what is your understanding of the instruction?
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