LLM Admissions Chances - UK Student


Hi everyone.



I know it's impossible to say for certain, but I was wondering what the chances of me achieving an offer from places such as Yale, Chicago, UCLA Berkeley are? I graduated from Cambridge University this June achieving a 68 (I think this converts to a 3.8 GPA?) in Politics. I did not achieve any awards/prizes during my time at university (only during my high-school). I've also got eventuating circumstances for why I achieved a 2.1 and not a first. I was involved in a great number of extracurricular with direct applicability to an LLM and have extensive work experience in int'l and local law firms. I'll also be starting my postgraduate diploma in law this September.



The only thing I am concerned about is that I will be applying in first-and-last year of my 'law school' and was wondering if it is a disadvantage to apply for LLM to start immediately post 'law school'.



Any other tips and assistance in applying for the LLM would be greatly appreciated as well.

[Edited by thirtycmruler on Aug 22, 2024]

Hi everyone. <br>
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I know it's impossible to say for certain, but I was wondering what the chances of me achieving an offer from places such as Yale, Chicago, UCLA Berkeley are? I graduated from Cambridge University this June achieving a 68 (I think this converts to a 3.8 GPA?) in Politics. I did not achieve any awards/prizes during my time at university (only during my high-school). I've also got eventuating circumstances for why I achieved a 2.1 and not a first. I was involved in a great number of extracurricular with direct applicability to an LLM and have extensive work experience in int'l and local law firms. I'll also be starting my postgraduate diploma in law this September. <br>
<br>
The only thing I am concerned about is that I will be applying in first-and-last year of my 'law school' and was wondering if it is a disadvantage to apply for LLM to start immediately post 'law school'.<br>
<br>
Any other tips and assistance in applying for the LLM would be greatly appreciated as well.
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balloonlaw

Unfortunately, I think the likelihood is zero.

American LLM programs such as the ones you mention are usually strict in requiring an LLB or JD (or equivalent). A 2:1 in Politics from Cambridge is impressive, but likely won’t qualify.

You might consider MA/MLS programs that are open to non-law grads. Penn, for example, has a Master in Law (ML) program that might suit.

Unfortunately, I think the likelihood is zero.

American LLM programs such as the ones you mention are usually strict in requiring an LLB or JD (or equivalent). A 2:1 in Politics from Cambridge is impressive, but likely won’t qualify.

You might consider MA/MLS programs that are open to non-law grads. Penn, for example, has a Master in Law (ML) program that might suit.
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Unfortunately, I think the likelihood is zero.



American LLM programs such as the ones you mention are usually strict in requiring an LLB or JD (or equivalent). A 2:1 in Politics from Cambridge is impressive, but likely won’t qualify.



You might consider MA/MLS programs that are open to non-law grads. Penn, for example, has a Master in Law (ML) program that might suit.





Ah, forgot to mention one very important thing. I'll be starting my Postgraduate Diploma in Law this September and it is deemed as a qualifying law degree for the purposes of LLM at the aforementioned unis. I will also have completed this GDL by the time I (hopefully) begin my LLM.

[Edited by thirtycmruler on Aug 22, 2024]

[quote]Unfortunately, I think the likelihood is zero.<br>
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American LLM programs such as the ones you mention are usually strict in requiring an LLB or JD (or equivalent). A 2:1 in Politics from Cambridge is impressive, but likely won’t qualify.<br>
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You might consider MA/MLS programs that are open to non-law grads. Penn, for example, has a Master in Law (ML) program that might suit. <br>
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Ah, forgot to mention one very important thing. I'll be starting my Postgraduate Diploma in Law this September and it is deemed as a qualifying law degree for the purposes of LLM at the aforementioned unis. I will also have completed this GDL by the time I (hopefully) begin my LLM.
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balloonlaw

Unfortunately, I think the likelihood is zero.

American LLM programs such as the ones you mention are usually strict in requiring an LLB or JD (or equivalent). A 2:1 in Politics from Cambridge is impressive, but likely won’t qualify.

You might consider MA/MLS programs that are open to non-law grads. Penn, for example, has a Master in Law (ML) program that might suit.


Ah, forgot to mention one very important thing. I'll be starting my Postgraduate Diploma in Law this September and it is deemed as a qualifying law degree for the purposes of LLM at the aforementioned unis.


Ah, okay then. The degree from Cantab will obviously be looked upon favourably. I’d say (based on nothing other than a gut feeling) your chances at Yale are not good <10%, slightly better at Chicago maybe <25%, and pretty decent at Berkeley maybe >=50%.

Your somewhat unusual background makes it harder to predict, as you seem to know. The non law degree is a bit of a negative honestly, even with the qualifying nature of the PGDip, as well as the lack of a first (albeit a high 2:1), but — Cambridge is Cambridge, and particularly if you have solid relevant experience, LORs (ideally from Law faculty), and a good application, you might still do well.

I’d probably apply to all three and to any others that appeal, and see what happens.

[quote][quote]Unfortunately, I think the likelihood is zero.

American LLM programs such as the ones you mention are usually strict in requiring an LLB or JD (or equivalent). A 2:1 in Politics from Cambridge is impressive, but likely won’t qualify.

You might consider MA/MLS programs that are open to non-law grads. Penn, for example, has a Master in Law (ML) program that might suit.
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Ah, forgot to mention one very important thing. I'll be starting my Postgraduate Diploma in Law this September and it is deemed as a qualifying law degree for the purposes of LLM at the aforementioned unis. [/quote]

Ah, okay then. The degree from Cantab will obviously be looked upon favourably. I’d say (based on nothing other than a gut feeling) your chances at Yale are not good <10%, slightly better at Chicago maybe <25%, and pretty decent at Berkeley maybe >=50%.

Your somewhat unusual background makes it harder to predict, as you seem to know. The non law degree is a bit of a negative honestly, even with the qualifying nature of the PGDip, as well as the lack of a first (albeit a high 2:1), but — Cambridge is Cambridge, and particularly if you have solid relevant experience, LORs (ideally from Law faculty), and a good application, you might still do well.

I’d probably apply to all three and to any others that appeal, and see what happens.
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