LLM admission requirement


Behdadbor

This is a very simple question, your answers will be greatly appreciated.
I don't have bachelor degree in LAW, I have studied sociology and I have passed graduate courses in Peace studies and Development studies.Is there any JD or LLM program that admits students without firs degree in law? Would you please provide some names or links.

This is a very simple question, your answers will be greatly appreciated.
I don't have bachelor degree in LAW, I have studied sociology and I have passed graduate courses in Peace studies and Development studies.Is there any JD or LLM program that admits students without firs degree in law? Would you please provide some names or links.
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I have the sema question :)

I have the sema question :)
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All US law schools offering LLM program requires that applicants should have LLB or Bachelor of Laws degree AND a licensed lawyer, which means one that passed in the bar exams. Thus, even though an applicant has Masters or PHd under his belt on whatever field, there is no way by which one can study LLM. One must still have to study Bachelor of Laws and be a licensed attorney in your own country.

Hope this helps you, haukurauks. Good day!

All US law schools offering LLM program requires that applicants should have LLB or Bachelor of Laws degree AND a licensed lawyer, which means one that passed in the bar exams. Thus, even though an applicant has Masters or PHd under his belt on whatever field, there is no way by which one can study LLM. One must still have to study Bachelor of Laws and be a licensed attorney in your own country.

Hope this helps you, haukurauks. Good day!
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flori

Hello everyone,

One must still have to study Bachelor of Laws and be a licensed attorney in your own country.


This statement is just plain false.
Bye
flori
P.S.
Cf.
http://www.law.harvard.edu/prospective/gradprogram/llm/eligibility/index.html

http://www.law.uchicago.edu/node/121

http://www.lsac.org/llm/applying/min-degree-requirements.asp

http://www.law.columbia.edu/llm_jsd/llm/standards

Hello everyone,

<blockquote> One must still have to study Bachelor of Laws and be a licensed attorney in your own country.
</blockquote>

This statement is just plain false.
Bye
flori
P.S.
Cf.
http://www.law.harvard.edu/prospective/gradprogram/llm/eligibility/index.html

http://www.law.uchicago.edu/node/121

http://www.lsac.org/llm/applying/min-degree-requirements.asp

http://www.law.columbia.edu/llm_jsd/llm/standards
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Can you please tell us what is your basis for stating so? Hey, Flori, all of your links supports my statement that one must have either a JD degree or Bachelor of Laws degree (LLB) and be a licensed attorney in your respective country in order to study LLM.

Can you please tell us what is your basis for stating so? Hey, Flori, all of your links supports my statement that one must have either a JD degree or Bachelor of Laws degree (LLB) and be a licensed attorney in your respective country in order to study LLM.

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flori

Well,
I have edited the post to include some links...
I guessed that you of all posters should know the Harvard entry requirements, but obviously you don't...
Bye
Flori

Well,
I have edited the post to include some links...
I guessed that you of all posters should know the Harvard entry requirements, but obviously you don't...
Bye
Flori
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flori

Hi Ladyjustice,

Hey, Flori, all of your links supports my statement that one must have either a JD degree or Bachelor of Laws degree (LLB) and be a licensed attorney in your respective country in order to study LLM.


No - they don't.
1. "To be considered for the LL.M. program, an applicant must have a J.D. (Juris Doctor) from an accredited U.S. law school or a first law degree (J.D., LL.B. or the equivalent) from a foreign law school." - from the Harvard webpage.

Law degree + Licensed attorney? I don't think so.

2."What qualifications must I have to apply to the LLM Program?
The LLM Program is limited to students who have already met at least one of the following requirements: (1) obtained a J.D. degree from an A.B.A. approved law school in the United States; (2) completed in a foreign country the academic (university based) legal education required to take the bar examination in that country or (3) be qualified to practice law (admitted to the bar) in a foreign country."


--Chicago
Law degree + Licensed attorney? Don't think so...


Bye
Flori
P.S.I won't go through the other pages word by word, but none, I repeat none of them support your thesis.
P.PS.
The funny thing is that many of my friends somehow had obtained LLM degrees from NYU, Columbia, UC Berkeley, before becoming licensed attorneys over here...

Hi Ladyjustice,

<blockquote>Hey, Flori, all of your links supports my statement that one must have either a JD degree or Bachelor of Laws degree (LLB) and be a licensed attorney in your respective country in order to study LLM.
</blockquote>

No - they don't.
1. "To be considered for the LL.M. program, an applicant must have a J.D. (Juris Doctor) from an accredited U.S. law school or a first law degree (J.D., LL.B. or the equivalent) from a foreign law school." - from the Harvard webpage.

Law degree + Licensed attorney? I don't think so.

2."What qualifications must I have to apply to the LLM Program?
The LLM Program is limited to students who have already met at least one of the following requirements: (1) obtained a J.D. degree from an A.B.A. approved law school in the United States; (2) completed in a foreign country the academic (university based) legal education required to take the bar examination in that country or (3) be qualified to practice law (admitted to the bar) in a foreign country."


--Chicago
Law degree + Licensed attorney? Don't think so...


Bye
Flori
P.S.I won't go through the other pages word by word, but none, I repeat none of them support your thesis.
P.PS.
The funny thing is that many of my friends somehow had obtained LLM degrees from NYU, Columbia, UC Berkeley, before becoming licensed attorneys over here...
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Why? are you applying also to LLM program? well, a friendly advice to you Flori, you'd better check first the eligibility criteria of schools you are applying to save your time and effort.

Peace. good day!

Why? are you applying also to LLM program? well, a friendly advice to you Flori, you'd better check first the eligibility criteria of schools you are applying to save your time and effort.

Peace. good day!
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flori

Why? are you applying also to LLM program? well, a friendly advice to you Flori, you'd better check first the eligibility criteria of schools you are applying to save your time and effort.

Peace. good day!


Well, no - why would I want to do that?

However, by contrast to other people I seem to understand the distinction between logical connectors such as "and" and "or".
Bye
flori



<blockquote>Why? are you applying also to LLM program? well, a friendly advice to you Flori, you'd better check first the eligibility criteria of schools you are applying to save your time and effort.

Peace. good day!
</blockquote>

Well, no - why would I want to do that?

However, by contrast to other people I seem to understand the distinction between logical connectors such as "and" and "or".
Bye
flori
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It says that "qualified to practice law" and "admitted to the bar" which means one that passed the bar.

It says that "qualified to practice law" and "admitted to the bar" which means one that passed the bar.
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flori

It says that "qualified to practice law" and "admitted to the bar" which means one that passed the bar.


You obviously refer to the second quote:
2."What qualifications must I have to apply to the LLM Program?
The LLM Program is limited to students who have already met _at_ _least_ _one_ of_ the following requirements:
(1)
(2)
(3) "

I don't think that we need to take this any further - the text is quite clear. Have a great time in Cambridge, Mass.
Bye
flori

<blockquote>It says that "qualified to practice law" and "admitted to the bar" which means one that passed the bar. </blockquote>

You obviously refer to the second quote:
2."What qualifications must I have to apply to the LLM Program?
The LLM Program is limited to students who have already met _at_ _least_ _one_ of_ the following requirements:
(1)
(2)
(3) "

I don't think that we need to take this any further - the text is quite clear. Have a great time in Cambridge, Mass.
Bye
flori
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Hey Flori, one last point, i am referring in general. well, good luck also to your future endeavor.
bye... !!

i hope that haukurhauks is enlightened on our discussion that he should have acquired Bachelor of laws degree that entitles him to practice law.

Hey Flori, one last point, i am referring in general. well, good luck also to your future endeavor.
bye... !!

i hope that haukurhauks is enlightened on our discussion that he should have acquired Bachelor of laws degree that entitles him to practice law.
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flori

I have the sema question :)


And to get back to the original question:
Yes, there are - although they are quite scarce in the US.
For example:
http://www.stu.edu/LLMProgram/tabid/2741/Default.aspx
http://www.tjsl.edu/academics/graduate-programs/international-trade-investment

(Those are arbitrary examples generated by a quick google search, I have no idea about their academic quality).

There are more in Europe and Australia...
Bye
flori

<blockquote>I have the sema question :)</blockquote>

And to get back to the original question:
Yes, there are - although they are quite scarce in the US.
For example:
http://www.stu.edu/LLMProgram/tabid/2741/Default.aspx
http://www.tjsl.edu/academics/graduate-programs/international-trade-investment

(Those are arbitrary examples generated by a quick google search, I have no idea about their academic quality).

There are more in Europe and Australia...
Bye
flori
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Ok thank you vary much.
This was helpfull :)

Ok thank you vary much.
This was helpfull :)
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Sim_Tron

Ok - there is a lot of misinformation here.

You MUST be admitted in certain circumstances ONLY.

Using Columbia LLM as an example. It does require admission to practice but ONLY in regards to certain countries, namely graduates in Australia, Canada, Ireland, New Zealand, the United Kingdom or English-speaking Caribbean Countries. This rule is ONLY enlivened if the person has not studied for 5 years or more (post secondary) in obtaining their law degree.

In Australia (where I studied law) it is possible to study an LLB right out of high school. Most law degrees studied this way take 4 years. In this case, the applicant would need to have been admitted to practice law to be eligible to Columbia. However, it is more common to do a Double Degree (Two undergraduate degrees studied concurrent to each other). These take 5+ years and the applicant WOULD NOT have to be admitted to be eligible to Columbia.

It is uncommon to graduate from a bachelors degree and then study law (such as a JD) like I did. I have been studying for 7 years. I am admitted but this WOULD NOT effect my application to Columbia if I wasn't because I am beyond the 5 year threshold.

So the rule at Columbia is that UNLESS you have studied for LESS THAN 5 years, you DO NOT need to have "passed the bar".

There is nothing in the Harvard requirements that state that you need to be admitted. Though, again, it wouldn't hurt to be.

Ok - there is a lot of misinformation here.

You MUST be admitted in certain circumstances ONLY.

Using Columbia LLM as an example. It does require admission to practice but ONLY in regards to certain countries, namely graduates in Australia, Canada, Ireland, New Zealand, the United Kingdom or English-speaking Caribbean Countries. This rule is ONLY enlivened if the person has not studied for 5 years or more (post secondary) in obtaining their law degree.

In Australia (where I studied law) it is possible to study an LLB right out of high school. Most law degrees studied this way take 4 years. In this case, the applicant would need to have been admitted to practice law to be eligible to Columbia. However, it is more common to do a Double Degree (Two undergraduate degrees studied concurrent to each other). These take 5+ years and the applicant WOULD NOT have to be admitted to be eligible to Columbia.

It is uncommon to graduate from a bachelors degree and then study law (such as a JD) like I did. I have been studying for 7 years. I am admitted but this WOULD NOT effect my application to Columbia if I wasn't because I am beyond the 5 year threshold.

So the rule at Columbia is that UNLESS you have studied for LESS THAN 5 years, you DO NOT need to have "passed the bar".

There is nothing in the Harvard requirements that state that you need to be admitted. Though, again, it wouldn't hurt to be.
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