Jurisprudence - NYU or Oxford?
Posted Mar 25, 2006 00:30
I'm looking for a bit of advice.
I've been accepted to a few LLM programs - Harvard, NYU, Oxford, Columbia, etc. I'm sure every school is the best at something. I'm most interested in jurisprudence though, and from what I've heard from professors and the like, NYU is tops in the US for jurisprudence and Oxford is the best in the UK for the same. I've received scholarships to cover the costs, so purely in terms of academics, which school is better?
A bit of background: I graduated from a top level Canadian law school, I'm currently clerking at an appellate court in Canada, and my long term goal is to become a law prof. I have no formal education in philosophy.
Any advice or suggestions are welcome, particularly from those who have some interest or experience in this area.
Thanks.
I'm looking for a bit of advice.
I've been accepted to a few LLM programs - Harvard, NYU, Oxford, Columbia, etc. I'm sure every school is the best at something. I'm most interested in jurisprudence though, and from what I've heard from professors and the like, NYU is tops in the US for jurisprudence and Oxford is the best in the UK for the same. I've received scholarships to cover the costs, so purely in terms of academics, which school is better?
A bit of background: I graduated from a top level Canadian law school, I'm currently clerking at an appellate court in Canada, and my long term goal is to become a law prof. I have no formal education in philosophy.
Any advice or suggestions are welcome, particularly from those who have some interest or experience in this area.
Thanks.
Posted Mar 25, 2006 00:54
Apart from that.. life in Ox is just a fairy tale :)
Apart from that.. life in Ox is just a fairy tale :)
Posted Mar 25, 2006 02:31
Regards.
Regards.
Posted Mar 26, 2006 21:38
Posted Mar 26, 2006 21:51
Posted Mar 27, 2006 01:18
Posted Mar 30, 2006 05:03
If one is interested in Hart's theory and defending his soft positivism then perhaps Yale would be the best place, you could study under Jule Coleman who also defends this view.
If one is a hard positivist in the tradition of Joseph Raz, then Oxford would be the place for you (he is the chair).
On the other hand, if one is a natural (or moral) law theorist then I would suggest NYU and Ronald Dworkin.
Who do you think is right and which view would you be most interested in learning more about?
Cheers!
If one is interested in Hart's theory and defending his soft positivism then perhaps Yale would be the best place, you could study under Jule Coleman who also defends this view.
If one is a hard positivist in the tradition of Joseph Raz, then Oxford would be the place for you (he is the chair).
On the other hand, if one is a natural (or moral) law theorist then I would suggest NYU and Ronald Dworkin.
Who do you think is right and which view would you be most interested in learning more about?
Cheers!
Posted Mar 30, 2006 08:37
Posted Mar 30, 2006 11:46
Posted Mar 30, 2006 19:33
NYU has Lewis Kornhauser. And Columbia has Jeremy Waldron (last I heard). Both well respected in the field.
UCL also has a strong offering. See:
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/laws/jurisprudence/llm-01/index.shtml
Harrison, Guest, et al.
NYU has Lewis Kornhauser. And Columbia has Jeremy Waldron (last I heard). Both well respected in the field.
UCL also has a strong offering. See:
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/laws/jurisprudence/llm-01/index.shtml
Harrison, Guest, et al.
Posted Mar 30, 2006 19:40
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/laws/jurisprudence/llm-01/index.shtml?teachers
Posted Mar 30, 2006 20:54
I agree that Oxford historically had the best reputation in jurisprudence. My concern was that it had slipped recently. Dworkin left. Raz is half time. Lots of the leading legal philosophers (Waldron, Coleman, Perry, etc.) have chosen to teach elsewhere. I'm sure Oxford is still very good, but is it at the leading edge? How much of its reputation in jurisprudence is based on past glory?
I agree that Oxford historically had the best reputation in jurisprudence. My concern was that it had slipped recently. Dworkin left. Raz is half time. Lots of the leading legal philosophers (Waldron, Coleman, Perry, etc.) have chosen to teach elsewhere. I'm sure Oxford is still very good, but is it at the leading edge? How much of its reputation in jurisprudence is based on past glory?
Posted Mar 31, 2006 00:32
Endicott, Raz, Finnis, and others... how can you argue with that lineup? Sure Dworkin is at NYU/UCL, and Waldron wherever he decides to teach... but everyone thinks Oxford when jurisprudence is mentioned.
Posted Mar 31, 2006 09:11
Posted Mar 31, 2006 22:43
cheers,
M.
cheers,
M.
Posted Apr 02, 2006 00:43
Posted Apr 02, 2006 02:03
Posted Apr 02, 2006 14:23
Posted Apr 02, 2006 14:32
Am sure this is a silly question but why would anyone spend a whole academic year studying Jurisdprudence! Isnt that stuff pretty boring???
Well James... I'm not interested in studying Jurisprudence alone, so I understand your point. However, what strikes me as really amazing is that some people are willing to spend not only one, but several years, studying tax law or commercial arbitration... But if they like to do so, I can't see any problem!
It is my contention that jurisprudence is one of the most fascinating areas of legal studies.
You know, one year is nothing. Some people study one subject for the rest of their lives... or even one problem!
Well James... I'm not interested in studying Jurisprudence alone, so I understand your point. However, what strikes me as really amazing is that some people are willing to spend not only one, but several years, studying tax law or commercial arbitration... But if they like to do so, I can't see any problem!
It is my contention that jurisprudence is one of the most fascinating areas of legal studies.
You know, one year is nothing. Some people study one subject for the rest of their lives... or even one problem!
Posted Apr 02, 2006 15:24
On a humorous, but somewhat related note Herbert Hart practiced tax law for years and was widely regarded as one of the leading London barristers in this field at that time. Similarly, Dworkin spent three years (if I remember correctly) practicing corporate law at one of white shoe firms in NYC
On a humorous, but somewhat related note Herbert Hart practiced tax law for years and was widely regarded as one of the leading London barristers in this field at that time. Similarly, Dworkin spent three years (if I remember correctly) practicing corporate law at one of white shoe firms in NYC
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