HELP - LLM - Fordham law school?


Emily99

Hello,

I sure could use a little professional advice, if you could spare it.

I study European and international business law in Paris.

I’d like to study at Fordham university next year but in this university you can choose 2 concentrations, which is a huge advantage.

I know that you have to choose according to my project but
i would like to work in international law and I really appreciate business law.

I would like to live and work in the United States when I graduate.

I would like to have the opinion of students or not who have a LLM in these field.(jobs, internship etc...).

I can't decide between LLM IN BANKING, CORPORATE, AND FINANCE LAW,INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS AND TRADE LAW OR INTERNATIONAL LAW AND JUSTICE?.

-Which is the area they seek the most in law firms?.
-What do you think of Fordham Law School? ..

Thanks.

Hello,

I sure could use a little professional advice, if you could spare it.

I study European and international business law in Paris.

I’d like to study at Fordham university next year but in this university you can choose 2 concentrations, which is a huge advantage.

I know that you have to choose according to my project but
i would like to work in international law and I really appreciate business law.

I would like to live and work in the United States when I graduate.

I would like to have the opinion of students or not who have a LLM in these field.(jobs, internship etc...).

I can't decide between LLM IN BANKING, CORPORATE, AND FINANCE LAW,INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS AND TRADE LAW OR INTERNATIONAL LAW AND JUSTICE?.

-Which is the area they seek the most in law firms?.
-What do you think of Fordham Law School? ..

Thanks.
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Salut Emily,

Which is the area they seek the most in law firms?
To my knowledge, the legal job market for foreign applicants in New York City ("NYC") is mainly focused on (1) Banking and Finance, (2) Arbitration and (3) Human Rights. Therefore, the LLM in "Banking, Corporate and Finance Law" could improve your profile in order to find a position.

What do you think of Fordham Law School?
Ranking. The american system is very focused on ranking and while Fordham ranking is good for JDs it could be below law firms' expectations for LLMs. Indeed, in 2019 Fordham is ranked 39 on USNEWS (https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/fordham-university-03107) and 32 on ATL (https://abovethelaw.com/law-school-rankings/top-law-schools-2019/).
That's why if you have the opportunity to attend a T14 US law school (i.e.Yale, Harvard, Stanford, Columbia, Chicago, NYU, UPenn, UVA, Berkeley, Duke, Ann Arbor, Northwestern, Cornell and Georgetown) it's recommended to do so.
Moreover, if your plan after the LLM is to sit the New York Bar Exam, it's not mandatory to attend a law school within the state of NY, any US ABA law school is fine.
However — except maybe if you attend a T5 law school or if your are from Central or South America — keep in mind that the US legal job market is hard for foreign applicant so you have no guarantee to find a position in USA after you LL.M. (even if you attended a T14 law school).

Location. The location could be an amazing asset to find a position in NYC because you don't need to wait the job fair to do interviews or meet people from NYC based law firms, and because your are already based in NYC you have no travel expenses.
Fordham is located in Manhattan which is an amazing (and expensive) location. In this same city or close to that location you have also Columbia (which is an Ivy league university), NYU and Cornell Tech who are also as of interest. Not so far from NYC and still in the state of NY you have also the prestigious Cornell based at Ithaca (4h drive from NYC), which is also an Ivy league university.

Nota Bene: If your main goal is to stay and work in USA, it's strongly recommended to do JD because law firms prefer to hire a JD with 3 year of US law studies rather than an LLM with only 1. I don't know about Fordham, but I know that few law schools (e.g. Duke) can offer the opportunity to transfer from LLM to JD.

Bonne chance !

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[i]Salut Emily,[/i]

[quote]Which is the area they seek the most in law firms?[/quote]To my knowledge, the legal job market for foreign applicants in New York City ("NYC") is mainly focused on (1) Banking and Finance, (2) Arbitration and (3) Human Rights. Therefore, the LLM in "Banking, Corporate and Finance Law" could improve your profile in order to find a position.

[quote]What do you think of Fordham Law School?[/quote][b][u]Ranking[/u][/b]. The american system is very focused on ranking and while Fordham ranking is good for JDs it could be below law firms' expectations for LLMs. Indeed, in 2019 Fordham is ranked 39 on USNEWS (https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/fordham-university-03107) and 32 on ATL (https://abovethelaw.com/law-school-rankings/top-law-schools-2019/).
That's why if you have the opportunity to attend a T14 US law school ([i]i.e.[/i]Yale, Harvard, Stanford, Columbia, Chicago, NYU, UPenn, UVA, Berkeley, Duke, Ann Arbor, Northwestern, Cornell and Georgetown) it's recommended to do so.
Moreover, if your plan after the LLM is to sit the New York Bar Exam, it's not mandatory to attend a law school within the state of NY, any US ABA law school is fine.
However — except maybe if you attend a T5 law school or if your are from Central or South America — keep in mind that the US legal job market is hard for foreign applicant so you have no guarantee to find a position in USA after you LL.M. (even if you attended a T14 law school).

[b][u]Location[/u][/b]. The location could be an amazing asset to find a position in NYC because you don't need to wait the job fair to do interviews or meet people from NYC based law firms, and because your are already based in NYC you have no travel expenses.
Fordham is located in Manhattan which is an amazing (and expensive) location. In this same city or close to that location you have also [b]Columbia[/b] (which is an Ivy league university), [b]NYU[/b] and [b]Cornell Tech[/b] who are also as of interest. Not so far from NYC and still in the state of NY you have also the prestigious [b]Cornell[/b] based at Ithaca (4h drive from NYC), which is also an Ivy league university.

[u][i]Nota Bene[/i][/u]: If your main goal is to stay and work in USA, it's strongly recommended to do JD because law firms prefer to hire a JD with 3 year of US law studies rather than an LLM with only 1. I don't know about Fordham, but I know that few law schools ([i]e.g.[/i] Duke) can offer the opportunity to transfer from LLM to JD.

[i]Bonne chance ![/i]
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Emily99

OMG!

Salut,
Merci beaucoup.

thank you very much for taking the time to respond. It’s very important to me.

I find negociation and dispute resolution interesting, but I don’t like arbitration.

I love finance, international business law , human rights and international law.

my university organized a partnership with Columbia and Cornell.I’m going to try my luck with Cornell and Columbia. They are two excellent universities and have a great reputation especially Columbia.

for LLM (Boston College Law School, Cardozo Law School, Cornell Law School, Fordham Law School, University of Pittsburgh School of Law, Washington University School of Law in Saint Louis, Pace Law, St John's Law School, or Bond University in Australia)

it all depends on the university because they are not all the same areas. Fordham is the one that I like the most.

New York is very expensive but I have friends and family in this place but,in case, I can’t live in this city ,I prefer to work in an area where there are opportunities.

OMG!

Salut,
Merci beaucoup.

thank you very much for taking the time to respond. It’s very important to me.

I find negociation and dispute resolution interesting, but I don’t like arbitration.

I love finance, international business law , human rights and international law.

my university organized a partnership with Columbia and Cornell.I’m going to try my luck with Cornell and Columbia. They are two excellent universities and have a great reputation especially Columbia.

for LLM (Boston College Law School, Cardozo Law School, Cornell Law School, Fordham Law School, University of Pittsburgh School of Law, Washington University School of Law in Saint Louis, Pace Law, St John's Law School, or Bond University in Australia)

it all depends on the university because they are not all the same areas. Fordham is the one that I like the most.

New York is very expensive but I have friends and family in this place but,in case, I can’t live in this city ,I prefer to work in an area where there are opportunities.

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