Erasmus in England, mention it in application (grades pb)


alicia04

Hi everybody,
I am a French student and I would like to apply to a LLM in business law in the USA: Berkeley, NYU, UCLA, USC or Cornell University and USD.
I have studied law for 4 years. I have done the first 3 years in France at the end of which I got a Licence en droit. However I have done the 4th year at the University of Exeter in England through the Erasmus exchange program. So I have now a Maîtrise en droit.
As in Erasmus you are still enrolled at your home University, my grades and my Maîtrise diploma have been issued by my University in France. Thus, my English grades have been translated into the French equivalent.
My French grades are higher than my English grades. For example, the equivalent of a 60% that I got in England is a 14/20 in France.
As it doesnt appear on my transcript that I did the 4th year in England Im wondering if I have to mention it on my LLM application considering the fact that my English grades are not fabulous: 60% in Intellectual property, 60% in Commercial law, 60% in European Union Law, and 65% in Corporate law. (French equivalent: 14/20, 14/20, 14/20, 15/20).
I called NYU and Berkeley, and they told me that if I mention it they cant certify they will be satisfied with the French equivalent grades. If necessary, I might be asked to give my English grades which are not really good.
Even if it can be positive in some way: I have travelled, Im open minded, I can speak English (anyway I have a good TOEFL score: 102/120 ibt), dont you think it could be a real disadvantage?

Hi everybody,
I am a French student and I would like to apply to a LLM in business law in the USA: Berkeley, NYU, UCLA, USC or Cornell University and USD.
I have studied law for 4 years. I have done the first 3 years in France at the end of which I got a “Licence en droit”. However I have done the 4th year at the University of Exeter in England through the Erasmus exchange program. So I have now a “Maîtrise en droit”.
As in Erasmus you are still enrolled at your home University, my grades and my “Maîtrise” diploma have been issued by my University in France. Thus, my English grades have been “translated” into the French equivalent.
My French grades are higher than my English grades. For example, the equivalent of a 60% that I got in England is a 14/20 in France.
As it doesn’t appear on my transcript that I did the 4th year in England I’m wondering if I have to mention it on my LLM application considering the fact that my English grades are not fabulous: 60% in Intellectual property, 60% in Commercial law, 60% in European Union Law, and 65% in Corporate law. (French equivalent: 14/20, 14/20, 14/20, 15/20).
I called NYU and Berkeley, and they told me that if I mention it they can’t certify they will be satisfied with the French equivalent grades. If necessary, I might be asked to give my English grades which are not really good.
Even if it can be positive in some way: I have travelled, I’m open minded, I can speak English (anyway I have a good TOEFL score: 102/120 ibt), don’t you think it could be a real disadvantage?
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dbk

Je pense que c'est délicat de mentir, et que tes notes officielles sont celles de ta fac française, donc celles qu'il convient d'indiquer.

Ca ne peut être qu'un plus d'avoir fait un échange en Angleterre a priori, et surtout les universités n'aiment pas beaucoup le mensonge, qu'il soit par ajout ou par omission. Surtout si tu les appelées avant... A ta place, j'indiquerai l'échange Erasmus en mettant mes notes, mais en précisant que les notes retenues sont celles de ta fac.

Mais ça me surprend un peu que ta fac ait "monté" tes notes anglaises, car généralement c'est plutôt l'inverse. Tu viens de quelle université?

Enfin, en tous cas, n'hésite pas de m'envoyer un PM si tu as des questions.

Je pense que c'est délicat de mentir, et que tes notes officielles sont celles de ta fac française, donc celles qu'il convient d'indiquer.

Ca ne peut être qu'un plus d'avoir fait un échange en Angleterre a priori, et surtout les universités n'aiment pas beaucoup le mensonge, qu'il soit par ajout ou par omission. Surtout si tu les appelées avant... A ta place, j'indiquerai l'échange Erasmus en mettant mes notes, mais en précisant que les notes retenues sont celles de ta fac.

Mais ça me surprend un peu que ta fac ait "monté" tes notes anglaises, car généralement c'est plutôt l'inverse. Tu viens de quelle université?

Enfin, en tous cas, n'hésite pas de m'envoyer un PM si tu as des questions.
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