Columbia Fall 2015 LLM


Jack13
Generally, those who are admitted in the early review cycle are the strongest candidates. Should you be among these applicants, you'll probably stand a chance for HLS, YLS and SLS.

Good luck guys!
Generally, those who are admitted in the early review cycle are the strongest candidates. Should you be among these applicants, you'll probably stand a chance for HLS, YLS and SLS.

Good luck guys!
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Hey guys, I'm applying in the regular cycle. I have a question about financial assistance.

I'm just on the fence here whether I should ask for it in my application. I would like to know if it'll hurt my chance in getting accepted. I mean if they want to take me, but see that I need some financial aid, they might decide to go for the one who is equally qualified but need no aid. Could that be the case? Can they accept me anyway but not give me any financial aid despite the fact that I have asked for it?

If I don't ask at all, I would have 0 chance of getting any. So, my question is: does it hurt to ask? Worth it?

Thanks!
Hey guys, I'm applying in the regular cycle. I have a question about financial assistance.

I'm just on the fence here whether I should ask for it in my application. I would like to know if it'll hurt my chance in getting accepted. I mean if they want to take me, but see that I need some financial aid, they might decide to go for the one who is equally qualified but need no aid. Could that be the case? Can they accept me anyway but not give me any financial aid despite the fact that I have asked for it?

If I don't ask at all, I would have 0 chance of getting any. So, my question is: does it hurt to ask? Worth it?

Thanks!
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jsd
Hey guys, I'm applying in the regular cycle. I have a question about financial assistance.

I'm just on the fence here whether I should ask for it in my application. I would like to know if it'll hurt my chance in getting accepted. I mean if they want to take me, but see that I need some financial aid, they might decide to go for the one who is equally qualified but need no aid. Could that be the case? Can they accept me anyway but not give me any financial aid despite the fact that I have asked for it?

If I don't ask at all, I would have 0 chance of getting any. So, my question is: does it hurt to ask? Worth it?


All else being equal, a candidate who does not ask for aid is preferred over someone who does. So if there are two female applicants from Indonesia-public law backgrounds that works for the diversity index and one offer is to be made, it is quite likely that the one who does not ask for funding will get it. That's expected as it reduces the headache for the law school and also removes the chances for a refused offer due to non-granting of aid.
<blockquote>Hey guys, I'm applying in the regular cycle. I have a question about financial assistance.

I'm just on the fence here whether I should ask for it in my application. I would like to know if it'll hurt my chance in getting accepted. I mean if they want to take me, but see that I need some financial aid, they might decide to go for the one who is equally qualified but need no aid. Could that be the case? Can they accept me anyway but not give me any financial aid despite the fact that I have asked for it?

If I don't ask at all, I would have 0 chance of getting any. So, my question is: does it hurt to ask? Worth it?</blockquote>

All else being equal, a candidate who does not ask for aid is preferred over someone who does. So if there are two female applicants from Indonesia-public law backgrounds that works for the diversity index and one offer is to be made, it is quite likely that the one who does not ask for funding will get it. That's expected as it reduces the headache for the law school and also removes the chances for a refused offer due to non-granting of aid.
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Well, in the instructions, they do say that finantial aid application will be considered independently, but I do wonder if there is a chinese wall among those applications.

I share your concern, but I thought about asking for finantial aid anyway.
Well, in the instructions, they do say that finantial aid application will be considered independently, but I do wonder if there is a chinese wall among those applications.

I share your concern, but I thought about asking for finantial aid anyway.
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Thanks, jsd & Joy!

Right. Oh I'm so torn ><

I don't know if it would make me more desirable if I don't need financial assistance. If so, I won't ask for any then. Every little bit helps!
Thanks, jsd & Joy!

Right. Oh I'm so torn ><

I don't know if it would make me more desirable if I don't need financial assistance. If so, I won't ask for any then. Every little bit helps!
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jsd
Thanks, jsd & Joy!

Right. Oh I'm so torn ><

I don't know if it would make me more desirable if I don't need financial assistance. If so, I won't ask for any then. Every little bit helps!


The application process rewards honesty. If you have the $$$ but are fishing for aid, you wont do your app any favours by asking for aid. Plenty of applicants try this without realising it can hurt their chances.

On the other hand, if you genuinely need money and can't do without aid, it is best to ask for aid. If some non-aid seeking applicant is chosen over you, its still ok cos the law school was probably not going to give you aid anyway.
<blockquote>Thanks, jsd & Joy!

Right. Oh I'm so torn ><

I don't know if it would make me more desirable if I don't need financial assistance. If so, I won't ask for any then. Every little bit helps!</blockquote>

The application process rewards honesty. If you have the $$$ but are fishing for aid, you wont do your app any favours by asking for aid. Plenty of applicants try this without realising it can hurt their chances.

On the other hand, if you genuinely need money and can't do without aid, it is best to ask for aid. If some non-aid seeking applicant is chosen over you, its still ok cos the law school was probably not going to give you aid anyway.
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Well, I consider that your personal statement and your statement for financial aid are equally important, remember that CLS also looks for potential influencers in their field, people that can create a reputation for Columbia in their future professional careers.

So, in terms of choosing a non-aid seeking applicant over a prominent professional requesting financial aid, I believe the assessment is independent, remember that in the financial aid section they ask you to detail any aspect related to your financial situation. Just a personal point of view.
Well, I consider that your personal statement and your statement for financial aid are equally important, remember that CLS also looks for potential influencers in their field, people that can create a reputation for Columbia in their future professional careers.

So, in terms of choosing a non-aid seeking applicant over a prominent professional requesting financial aid, I believe the assessment is independent, remember that in the financial aid section they ask you to detail any aspect related to your financial situation. Just a personal point of view.
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LLMEFR
For those who applied to the early review process, I wanted to ask you if the email you received from Columbia informing you that your application was complete, said something about your application to the early review process.

In reviewing the email I received, i noticed that it refers to regular cycle application so I was wondering if those who applied to early decision received same email or not. The email I received says the following:

"Thank you for your interest in Columbia Law School's LL.M. Program. We hereby confirm that we have received your application for admission to our 2015-16 LL.M. Program and your application is complete. Admissions decisions are made on a rolling basis. Rolling admissions means we evaluate applications randomly. The date you submitted your application often has no bearing on when you will receive a decision. Some regular-cycle candidates will have a decision in early January while others will have one in late April. If you have not yet received a decision, it most likely means that the committee simply has not yet reviewed your application (so you should not worry!). We strive to give every candidate an answer by the end of April. We will notify you via email as soon as a decision is made on your application".

I will appreciate very much your comments.

Thanks to all!!
For those who applied to the early review process, I wanted to ask you if the email you received from Columbia informing you that your application was complete, said something about your application to the early review process.

In reviewing the email I received, i noticed that it refers to regular cycle application so I was wondering if those who applied to early decision received same email or not. The email I received says the following:

"Thank you for your interest in Columbia Law School's LL.M. Program. We hereby confirm that we have received your application for admission to our 2015-16 LL.M. Program and your application is complete. Admissions decisions are made on a rolling basis. Rolling admissions means we evaluate applications randomly. The date you submitted your application often has no bearing on when you will receive a decision. Some regular-cycle candidates will have a decision in early January while others will have one in late April. If you have not yet received a decision, it most likely means that the committee simply has not yet reviewed your application (so you should not worry!). We strive to give every candidate an answer by the end of April. We will notify you via email as soon as a decision is made on your application".

I will appreciate very much your comments.

Thanks to all!!


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sah130
Hi LLMEFR,

This is a standard response which every one receives irrespective of whether you have applied under the early review program or the regular cycle. I applied well within the early review period and received this same response so no need to worry.

Decisions for us early review people should start rolling in from next week so fingers crossed and all the best!

It's quite nerve wracking now. Every time i see a notification saying someone has commented on this post, I sense someone may have posted his/her decision! Kill me now!
Hi LLMEFR,

This is a standard response which every one receives irrespective of whether you have applied under the early review program or the regular cycle. I applied well within the early review period and received this same response so no need to worry.

Decisions for us early review people should start rolling in from next week so fingers crossed and all the best!

It's quite nerve wracking now. Every time i see a notification saying someone has commented on this post, I sense someone may have posted his/her decision! Kill me now!
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LLMEFR
Thanks sah130, I was going to panic.... jajaja

I´m as anxious as you. I Hope we receive news next week.

Best of luck.
Thanks sah130, I was going to panic.... jajaja

I´m as anxious as you. I Hope we receive news next week.

Best of luck.

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LLMEFR


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grumpyJD
Thanks sah130, I was going to panic.... jajaja

I´m as anxious as you. I Hope we receive news next week.

Best of luck.



Very anxious here too. But for a program like Columbia, I would forgive them if they made me wait until the day before classes as long as it's a 'yes' :-)

Good luck to everyone!
<blockquote>Thanks sah130, I was going to panic.... jajaja

I´m as anxious as you. I Hope we receive news next week.

Best of luck.

</blockquote>

Very anxious here too. But for a program like Columbia, I would forgive them if they made me wait until the day before classes as long as it's a 'yes' :-)

Good luck to everyone!
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sah130
I'm expecting to get deferred to the regular cycle. Nothing more and I hope nothing less!!
I'm expecting to get deferred to the regular cycle. Nothing more and I hope nothing less!!
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Qc1990
Glad to know that I'm not the only one who is currently stressing out with that!

Good luck to all of you guys.
Glad to know that I'm not the only one who is currently stressing out with that!

Good luck to all of you guys.
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hobbit
15 Dec and no news yet for the ERs?!
15 Dec and no news yet for the ERs?!
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bpg
No news yet for the ERs. Someone told me they'll send the e-mails on December 21st, but I can't confirm the reliability. Does anyone know?
No news yet for the ERs. Someone told me they'll send the e-mails on December 21st, but I can't confirm the reliability. Does anyone know?
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does anyone happen to know how long do they take to check off the TOEFL requirement and the statement of rank from the requirement list of the Application status checker?
does anyone happen to know how long do they take to check off the TOEFL requirement and the statement of rank from the requirement list of the Application status checker?
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bpg
Both are checked off for me, but I don't know when they did it.
Both are checked off for me, but I don't know when they did it.
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Both are checked off for me, but I don't know when they did it.


So you have a total of 6-7 items checked off? Im asking because mine are not, and I applied on Dec 08.
<blockquote>Both are checked off for me, but I don't know when they did it.</blockquote>

So you have a total of 6-7 items checked off? Im asking because mine are not, and I applied on Dec 08.

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bpg
Both are checked off for me, but I don't know when they did it.


So you have a total of 6-7 items checked off? Im asking because mine are not, and I applied on Dec 08.



Yes, 6 items checked off, but I applied for ER in late October. The website says it takes a couple weeks to process all the documents, and since you applied on December 08, you should have no reason to worry.
<blockquote><blockquote>Both are checked off for me, but I don't know when they did it.</blockquote>

So you have a total of 6-7 items checked off? Im asking because mine are not, and I applied on Dec 08.

</blockquote>

Yes, 6 items checked off, but I applied for ER in late October. The website says it takes a couple weeks to process all the documents, and since you applied on December 08, you should have no reason to worry.
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