Any thoughts on IUPUI?


Have anyone heard anything bout IUPUI, I have not heard much bout the University but they accepted me and is one of the few LLM programs I could find who were accesible to me (2.54 out of 3.00 GPA, jsut about to graduate from Law School so not much on the work experience department, a text book on International Human Rights law as the only major publication) plus financially I couldn´t go for the programs on the 40.000 price range.... I´m strongly considering it but I´m wondering if anyone know if it´s worth it

Have anyone heard anything bout IUPUI, I have not heard much bout the University but they accepted me and is one of the few LLM programs I could find who were accesible to me (2.54 out of 3.00 GPA, jsut about to graduate from Law School so not much on the work experience department, a text book on International Human Rights law as the only major publication) plus financially I couldn´t go for the programs on the 40.000 price range.... I´m strongly considering it but I´m wondering if anyone know if it´s worth it
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tgheen

Hey there. I'm about to receive my JD from here. There are several LLM and even a JSD student here. It is a great alternative, especially if cost is an issue. I know several JD students who have been able to secure excellent jobs/post-grad plans. \Since it is the only law school in Indianapolis, students (JD students at least) have unparalleled access to internships in federal courts, state courts, state and local gov and work at local firms.

It is also a pretty laid back school and city and it is extremely easy to live here. You can still find a place to live under $400/month. Not bad.

I suggest that you contact current LLM students in the program that fit your profile. If you'd like, please give me your email address and a list of your relevant attributes and what your goals are. For instance:
1) age, date of JD, citizenship
2) work experience
3) employment goals (what, where, who)
4) academic interests/concentration

Thanks,
-T

Hey there. I'm about to receive my JD from here. There are several LLM and even a JSD student here. It is a great alternative, especially if cost is an issue. I know several JD students who have been able to secure excellent jobs/post-grad plans. \Since it is the only law school in Indianapolis, students (JD students at least) have unparalleled access to internships in federal courts, state courts, state and local gov and work at local firms.

It is also a pretty laid back school and city and it is extremely easy to live here. You can still find a place to live under $400/month. Not bad.

I suggest that you contact current LLM students in the program that fit your profile. If you'd like, please give me your email address and a list of your relevant attributes and what your goals are. For instance:
1) age, date of JD, citizenship
2) work experience
3) employment goals (what, where, who)
4) academic interests/concentration

Thanks,
-T
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quentin

Hi. I was very surprised you mentioned IUPUI instead of the Indiana Law School - Bloomington. Though you may undertand that these are the same, are not. IU-Bloomington is better ranked (37 this year) than IUPUI. JD students from IUPUI want to transfer to IU-Bloomington because they will have better job prospects. On the other hand, Bloomington campus is really nice, big and many activities take place. Besides, there are many many many international students and you may feel that you are not the only one "new". In regard with the LLM program, I may only say that it is great. You can take the same classes as JD students and professors treat really well the LLM. They are willing to help LLM students and share experiences. More things. There are many social events that will allow you to meet people.
I don't know what else to tell you but, overall, IU-Bloomington is better Law School than IUPUI. And, please, IUPUI students don't get mad at me. I am basing my opinion in USNews rankings and my own experience

Hi. I was very surprised you mentioned IUPUI instead of the Indiana Law School - Bloomington. Though you may undertand that these are the same, are not. IU-Bloomington is better ranked (37 this year) than IUPUI. JD students from IUPUI want to transfer to IU-Bloomington because they will have better job prospects. On the other hand, Bloomington campus is really nice, big and many activities take place. Besides, there are many many many international students and you may feel that you are not the only one "new". In regard with the LLM program, I may only say that it is great. You can take the same classes as JD students and professors treat really well the LLM. They are willing to help LLM students and share experiences. More things. There are many social events that will allow you to meet people.
I don't know what else to tell you but, overall, IU-Bloomington is better Law School than IUPUI. And, please, IUPUI students don't get mad at me. I am basing my opinion in USNews rankings and my own experience
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tgheen

Hey there. The law school is actually Indiana University - Indianapolis. I actually was admitted to Bloomington and several top 20 schools. I chose to go to Indianapolis for several reasons.
Please note that the school you decide to go to depends on several factors, and USNews rankings is not the only one. I find that many people on this list-serve are so fucosed on "rankings" - perhaps an indication that folks do not really know what they want to do afterwards and hence do not know which questions to ask to alleviate various insecurities.

While it is true that Bloomington has a larger OCI (on campus recruiting) network and better "rankings" overall, I have been pleased with my experience at Indianapolis. I have been able to work on two journals, have had two federal judicial externships (which I only had to cross the street to go to), done clinical work on a live international human rights cases, have outstanding contacts in state gov, have excellent and close relationships with professors (If they notice that you are a serious student with high prospects, they take you under their wing), and interviews at top law firms. In addition, the price was significantly less than any other school and I will be graduating with minimal loans. Not too shabby! To top it off, I have been admitted to several top5 LLM programs so I can still get a "name" behind me and enter academia through the label door.

With all that said, such a school is not for everyone. If you are niether a top student nor are focused in a specific interest, you could have a tougher time with things. While the school has fantastic contacts in Indiana, it is lesser known outside of the state and you have to be more proactive to get opportunities further away. It can be done, but it is more difficult, bc fewer opportunities come knocking on your door. You have to go knocking on opportunity's door more often. BUT since it is the only law school in Indianapolis (a capital city and a hub for many federal opportunities), there is unparalleled access to opportunities here. In addition, with the excellent professorial guidance I have received, I am finding no lack of post law school opportunities.

I actually teach LSAT courses and give law school and grad school admissions advice. I try to tell my students that rankings are not the only thing to look at. My own choices are a testament.

I thikn the more important questions to ask besides ranking are:
1) what are the in-school and post-school job prospects?
2) are jobs more locally, regionally or nationally focused?
3) do you get close personal attention from professors?
4) are students more of a cross-section of society, or is there a dearth of minority or first-generation students (suggesting a lack of points of view or diversity)?
5) what internship and clinical experiences are there and what are your chances of getting access to them?
6) what is the cost of living/tuition and will you be strapped after graduation to a "money" job? Or will you have more opportunities to decide for yourself what sort of job you will want (non-profit, gov work) and flexibility regarding pay?

I visited Bloomington several times and was impressed with the school. I sometimes wonder what my experience would have been like there. But then I look at my own experience and accomplishments and am satisfied with my decisions.

Hope that helps!!

Hey there. The law school is actually Indiana University - Indianapolis. I actually was admitted to Bloomington and several top 20 schools. I chose to go to Indianapolis for several reasons.
Please note that the school you decide to go to depends on several factors, and USNews rankings is not the only one. I find that many people on this list-serve are so fucosed on "rankings" - perhaps an indication that folks do not really know what they want to do afterwards and hence do not know which questions to ask to alleviate various insecurities.

While it is true that Bloomington has a larger OCI (on campus recruiting) network and better "rankings" overall, I have been pleased with my experience at Indianapolis. I have been able to work on two journals, have had two federal judicial externships (which I only had to cross the street to go to), done clinical work on a live international human rights cases, have outstanding contacts in state gov, have excellent and close relationships with professors (If they notice that you are a serious student with high prospects, they take you under their wing), and interviews at top law firms. In addition, the price was significantly less than any other school and I will be graduating with minimal loans. Not too shabby! To top it off, I have been admitted to several top5 LLM programs so I can still get a "name" behind me and enter academia through the label door.

With all that said, such a school is not for everyone. If you are niether a top student nor are focused in a specific interest, you could have a tougher time with things. While the school has fantastic contacts in Indiana, it is lesser known outside of the state and you have to be more proactive to get opportunities further away. It can be done, but it is more difficult, bc fewer opportunities come knocking on your door. You have to go knocking on opportunity's door more often. BUT since it is the only law school in Indianapolis (a capital city and a hub for many federal opportunities), there is unparalleled access to opportunities here. In addition, with the excellent professorial guidance I have received, I am finding no lack of post law school opportunities.

I actually teach LSAT courses and give law school and grad school admissions advice. I try to tell my students that rankings are not the only thing to look at. My own choices are a testament.

I thikn the more important questions to ask besides ranking are:
1) what are the in-school and post-school job prospects?
2) are jobs more locally, regionally or nationally focused?
3) do you get close personal attention from professors?
4) are students more of a cross-section of society, or is there a dearth of minority or first-generation students (suggesting a lack of points of view or diversity)?
5) what internship and clinical experiences are there and what are your chances of getting access to them?
6) what is the cost of living/tuition and will you be strapped after graduation to a "money" job? Or will you have more opportunities to decide for yourself what sort of job you will want (non-profit, gov work) and flexibility regarding pay?

I visited Bloomington several times and was impressed with the school. I sometimes wonder what my experience would have been like there. But then I look at my own experience and accomplishments and am satisfied with my decisions.

Hope that helps!!
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Well.... I didn´t apply to bloomington, mainly because they told me they didn´t have scholarship program for international students, IUPUI is offering me 25% off which is only $6000.00 but it´s still an amount significant to me. I´ve also been accepted on Uni of Iowa but they´ve yet to make a decission about scholarship, GWU and Uni of Michigan wait-listed me

Well.... I didn´t apply to bloomington, mainly because they told me they didn´t have scholarship program for international students, IUPUI is offering me 25% off which is only $6000.00 but it´s still an amount significant to me. I´ve also been accepted on Uni of Iowa but they´ve yet to make a decission about scholarship, GWU and Uni of Michigan wait-listed me
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tgheen

Oh, by the way, IU-Indianapolis has some great international law and international human rights professors. There is a large LLM studet population here, and the school is quite well known in China and Korea, each with sizable student populations. There are also several students from Europe and Latin America, and a few from Africa. There are also a few from the US! I highly suggest that you visit if you can and get to speak to the int'l law profs one-on-one.

Oh, by the way, IU-Indianapolis has some great international law and international human rights professors. There is a large LLM studet population here, and the school is quite well known in China and Korea, each with sizable student populations. There are also several students from Europe and Latin America, and a few from Africa. There are also a few from the US! I highly suggest that you visit if you can and get to speak to the int'l law profs one-on-one.
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