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I remember when I applied to law school there was a book that provided a grid for every law school that showed the number of students accepted with a particular LSAT and GPA. So you could look at your own scores and see that for law school XYZ there were actually 6 people who were accepted with your approximate LSAT and GPA, so you knew you had an outside chance. Does a book like this still exist for any college programs at all? Is there one for LLM programs by chance or an online resource with this kind of information - for LLM programs or other college masters programs?

I remember when I applied to law school there was a book that provided a grid for every law school that showed the number of students accepted with a particular LSAT and GPA. So you could look at your own scores and see that for law school XYZ there were actually 6 people who were accepted with your approximate LSAT and GPA, so you knew you had an outside chance. Does a book like this still exist for any college programs at all? Is there one for LLM programs by chance or an online resource with this kind of information - for LLM programs or other college masters programs?
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OpinioJuri...

There are some schools that provide information on admission rates. However, information such as the LSAT (which isn't required for the LLM Program) or the GPA (most GPAs for LLM applicants are not standardized in terms of the U.S. grading system) are normally not provided.

You may want to check this link:

http://www.llm-guide.com/law-school-rankings

Hope this helps.

There are some schools that provide information on admission rates. However, information such as the LSAT (which isn't required for the LLM Program) or the GPA (most GPAs for LLM applicants are not standardized in terms of the U.S. grading system) are normally not provided.

You may want to check this link:

http://www.llm-guide.com/law-school-rankings

Hope this helps.
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QSWE

One may add here, whereas at the undergraduate level, the scores in entrance exams (LSAT, for example) are the ones that are almost sole determinants of one's fortunes in getting admissions, at the graduate level, there are various other equalising factors that come into play and hence, generalisations based on rankings and GPAs are not feasible at this level.

One may add here, whereas at the undergraduate level, the scores in entrance exams (LSAT, for example) are the ones that are almost sole determinants of one's fortunes in getting admissions, at the graduate level, there are various other equalising factors that come into play and hence, generalisations based on rankings and GPAs are not feasible at this level.
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OpinioJuri...

The study of law in the United States commences at the graduate level, hence the nomenclature of Juris Doctor. Since it is a graduate degree, the main qualification of entry into the JD program is a bachelor's degree from an undergraduate college, unlike in some jurisdictions outside the United States where law is taken as an undergraduate course or first degree (LLB, BA in Law, etc.). Law schools in the United States award a JD as a professional law degree to prepare one to engage in the practice of law, as distinguished from the LLM and SJD which are academic law degrees, all awarded at the graduate level.

While the undergraduate level examinations are the SAT, ACT and PSAT, the LSAT is a graduate level aptitude examination in the same category as the GRE, GMAT and MCAT. American universities use a number of criteria for admission, not solely relying on the standardized test scores as the bases for admission, in both the undergraduate and graduate levels. The criteria for selecting successful applicants would include prior academic performance at school, standardized test scores, work experience/professional accomplishments (extra-curricular activities for undergraduate admissions), and other relevant qualifications (having another graduate degree or the license to practice another profession, if any).

U.S. universities, in general, and U.S. law schools in particular, select prospective students who excel not just academically, but in all other facets of their social and professional lives.

The study of law in the United States commences at the graduate level, hence the nomenclature of Juris Doctor. Since it is a graduate degree, the main qualification of entry into the JD program is a bachelor's degree from an undergraduate college, unlike in some jurisdictions outside the United States where law is taken as an undergraduate course or first degree (LLB, BA in Law, etc.). Law schools in the United States award a JD as a professional law degree to prepare one to engage in the practice of law, as distinguished from the LLM and SJD which are academic law degrees, all awarded at the graduate level.

While the undergraduate level examinations are the SAT, ACT and PSAT, the LSAT is a graduate level aptitude examination in the same category as the GRE, GMAT and MCAT. American universities use a number of criteria for admission, not solely relying on the standardized test scores as the bases for admission, in both the undergraduate and graduate levels. The criteria for selecting successful applicants would include prior academic performance at school, standardized test scores, work experience/professional accomplishments (extra-curricular activities for undergraduate admissions), and other relevant qualifications (having another graduate degree or the license to practice another profession, if any).

U.S. universities, in general, and U.S. law schools in particular, select prospective students who excel not just academically, but in all other facets of their social and professional lives.
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QSWE

In furtherance of the informative post by the revered friend and as a clarification of the comments by the writer in the previous post, it may be added here that within the undeniably all-round performance oriented American culture, the emphasis at undergraduate legal studies (JD i.e.), is more on scores (both in entrance exams and previous qualifications). It would surprising to know that a person having mediocre scores in both those spheres would end up being in a high-ranking institution (in a field like law) solely on the basis of extra-curricular activities like sports. Of course, extra curricular in related fields of concern may stand one in good stead, but the whole function of entrance exams is to find out the suitability (on a given set of parameters) of the candidate to the course concerned.

To go back to the original question in the post, if a balanced view were to back taken at undergraduate level (JD), concerned factors are more equalised in selection to graduate courses (LLM and one does not intend to comment about SJD). Hence, it is difficult to draw a curve as to the quantitative criteria involved in the selection process. Some denominators may be common, and they are found in the prospectus, however, the whole process is quite ambiguous, leaving a lot of room for speculation.

In furtherance of the informative post by the revered friend and as a clarification of the comments by the writer in the previous post, it may be added here that within the undeniably all-round performance oriented American culture, the emphasis at undergraduate legal studies (JD i.e.), is more on scores (both in entrance exams and previous qualifications). It would surprising to know that a person having mediocre scores in both those spheres would end up being in a high-ranking institution (in a field like law) solely on the basis of extra-curricular activities like sports. Of course, extra curricular in related fields of concern may stand one in good stead, but the whole function of entrance exams is to find out the suitability (on a given set of parameters) of the candidate to the course concerned.

To go back to the original question in the post, if a balanced view were to back taken at undergraduate level (JD), concerned factors are more equalised in selection to graduate courses (LLM and one does not intend to comment about SJD). Hence, it is difficult to draw a curve as to the quantitative criteria involved in the selection process. Some denominators may be common, and they are found in the prospectus, however, the whole process is quite ambiguous, leaving a lot of room for speculation.
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