Hi there !
Today I had a rare, surprising, yet tempting opportunity.
For some reason which I'm not going to explain thoroughly right now since it would be pretty long, I would be admitted for an LLM in Duke for this year, id est 2010-2011. Yeah it does really come out of the blue, since it is on such a short notice and furthermore since I had not applied yet, but well it just happened.
Someone had been admitted and eventually cannot go there for personal reasons which just arised, so my former university (which has agreements with Duke) contacted me asking me whether I wanted to go..
So the bottom line is that I could most likely attend this LLM as soon as this year, given that I answer very quickly to this offer.
Since this proposal comes as a real surprise to me, I had by the way not applied to any LLM yet but was planning to do so for next year, I know nothing about them, even less about Duke.
Just want to know very honnestly if Duke is nicely rated and if I should take this offer. I ve read a lot of interesting topics here on this board that I've just discovered, but I don't really realize how it is ranked compared to other big llm like Columbia Yale etc. etc. The timing would be decent for me, eventhough I wanted to apply for next year, I am currently looking for a Job in a law firm, and I am hence not working right now. I just need to know if it is a good enough university. I have the feeling that it was very very highly considered some 10 to 20 years ago, and was wondering whether this is still the case nowadays.
Few backgrounds information : I want to work in a law firm in my country in Europe once I've done my LLM.
I hope I ll get some help here because I have a very short notice to accept or decline this offer, and I simply don't want to make a bad decision.
Any comment would hence be truly appreciated.
Thank you !
A very very late "offer". Help needed !
Posted Apr 14, 2010 01:18
Today I had a rare, surprising, yet tempting opportunity.
For some reason which I'm not going to explain thoroughly right now since it would be pretty long, I would be admitted for an LLM in Duke for this year, id est 2010-2011. Yeah it does really come out of the blue, since it is on such a short notice and furthermore since I had not applied yet, but well it just happened.
Someone had been admitted and eventually cannot go there for personal reasons which just arised, so my former university (which has agreements with Duke) contacted me asking me whether I wanted to go..
So the bottom line is that I could most likely attend this LLM as soon as this year, given that I answer very quickly to this offer.
Since this proposal comes as a real surprise to me, I had by the way not applied to any LLM yet but was planning to do so for next year, I know nothing about them, even less about Duke.
Just want to know very honnestly if Duke is nicely rated and if I should take this offer. I ve read a lot of interesting topics here on this board that I've just discovered, but I don't really realize how it is ranked compared to other big llm like Columbia Yale etc. etc. The timing would be decent for me, eventhough I wanted to apply for next year, I am currently looking for a Job in a law firm, and I am hence not working right now. I just need to know if it is a good enough university. I have the feeling that it was very very highly considered some 10 to 20 years ago, and was wondering whether this is still the case nowadays.
Few backgrounds information : I want to work in a law firm in my country in Europe once I've done my LLM.
I hope I ll get some help here because I have a very short notice to accept or decline this offer, and I simply don't want to make a bad decision.
Any comment would hence be truly appreciated.
Thank you !
Posted Apr 14, 2010 02:19
I think duke would be an excellent choice especially given your decision to return home.
Posted Apr 14, 2010 09:52
I think duke would be an excellent choice especially given your decision to return home.
Absolutely!
Absolutely!
Posted Apr 14, 2010 12:00
Thank you for your answers so far, I appreciate it.
I ve found many rankings and so forth, but it always seems to take into consideration the law school per se, JD etc, and not the LLM itself. I still don't really know how it is rated .
For instance it's surprising because in my country people think that NYU is pretty common (unlike Columiba which is very highly rated) and Duke seems to have a pretty strong image as well, whereas in the rankings i've seen so far, NYU is very nicely rated.
I ve found many rankings and so forth, but it always seems to take into consideration the law school per se, JD etc, and not the LLM itself. I still don't really know how it is rated .
For instance it's surprising because in my country people think that NYU is pretty common (unlike Columiba which is very highly rated) and Duke seems to have a pretty strong image as well, whereas in the rankings i've seen so far, NYU is very nicely rated.
Posted Apr 14, 2010 14:03
There are no relying ratings on LL.M. programs.
Unless you really want to go to HLS, YLS, Stanford or CLS, I'd suggest to take the offer. Duke is a very good school with a good program and if you want to return to Europe after graduation, it's absolutely great...
Unless you really want to go to HLS, YLS, Stanford or CLS, I'd suggest to take the offer. Duke is a very good school with a good program and if you want to return to Europe after graduation, it's absolutely great...
Posted Apr 14, 2010 23:44
@Roc_Xel
where do you come from? well... i believe that nyu is really mediocre. there are better schools than nyu.
where do you come from? well... i believe that nyu is really mediocre. there are better schools than nyu.
Posted Apr 15, 2010 01:04
I m from Switzerland !
I think i'll go for Duke, seems nice.
But any more comment/ opinion on the school is always appreciated ..
I think i'll go for Duke, seems nice.
But any more comment/ opinion on the school is always appreciated ..
Posted Apr 15, 2010 18:46
According my experience, Swiss law firms do not make any difference between LLM from the major Universities (except if the partner is an "alumnus" of one of them).
Difference is rather the cost and the place: Durham is not NY :a flat in Durham is half the price, but maybe the city is not so exciting.
Duke: classes are smaller, you can choose amongst many lessons (general LLM), weather is better etc..
personnal experience is maybe more important than ranking, as long as it is a "first class" University (which Duke is).
I also know that you can have a scholarship within the Geneva-Duke agreement, which is really interresting (I do not know if it is your case).
Maybe it can help.
Difference is rather the cost and the place: Durham is not NY :a flat in Durham is half the price, but maybe the city is not so exciting.
Duke: classes are smaller, you can choose amongst many lessons (general LLM), weather is better etc..
personnal experience is maybe more important than ranking, as long as it is a "first class" University (which Duke is).
I also know that you can have a scholarship within the Geneva-Duke agreement, which is really interresting (I do not know if it is your case).
Maybe it can help.
Posted Apr 16, 2010 13:13
Thanks Daniel, very interesting post.
I m on the edge of making it a final decision, and it seems almost certain i ll be in Durham very soon !
I m on the edge of making it a final decision, and it seems almost certain i ll be in Durham very soon !
Posted Apr 16, 2010 15:00
I am sure sure you make the right decision. Hereafter the academic calendar for 2010-2011
Fall Term 2010
Mon-Fri, August 16-20
LLM orientation
Monday, August 23
All classes begin
Mon-Fri, October 11-15
Fall Break
Wed-Fri, November 24-26
Thanksgiving Break
Wednesday, December 1
Last day of classes
December 2-18
Reading and examination period
Spring Term 2011
Monday, January 10
Classes begin
Monday, January 17
Martin Luther King, Jr. Holiday (no classes)
Mon-Fri, March 14-18
Spring Break
Monday, April 18
Last day of classes
Tue, April 19 - Fri, May 6
Reading and examination period
Saturday, May 14
Law School hooding ceremony
Sunday, May 15
University commencement ceremony
You can also have a look to the group FB "Duke LLM 10-11"
Fall Term 2010
Mon-Fri, August 16-20
LLM orientation
Monday, August 23
All classes begin
Mon-Fri, October 11-15
Fall Break
Wed-Fri, November 24-26
Thanksgiving Break
Wednesday, December 1
Last day of classes
December 2-18
Reading and examination period
Spring Term 2011
Monday, January 10
Classes begin
Monday, January 17
Martin Luther King, Jr. Holiday (no classes)
Mon-Fri, March 14-18
Spring Break
Monday, April 18
Last day of classes
Tue, April 19 - Fri, May 6
Reading and examination period
Saturday, May 14
Law School hooding ceremony
Sunday, May 15
University commencement ceremony
You can also have a look to the group FB "Duke LLM 10-11"
Posted Apr 16, 2010 15:14
I said Daniel for Lionel , sorry !
Thanks also for the calendar, was precisely looking for it !!!
Thanks also for the calendar, was precisely looking for it !!!
Posted Apr 16, 2010 17:45
According my experience, Swiss law firms do not make any difference between LLM from the major Universities (except if the partner is an "alumnus" of one of them).
This is quite true. But still, they know of course that Yale is Yale and Harvard is Harvard and that the entry requirements are more selective than in other schools. So, if you have a top 5 school, it won't hurt, but it's not necessary at all. Law firms are happy if you have an LL.M. from the U.S. that's it!
But it's not true that Swiss law firms think of NYU as a mediocre University. At least not the magic circle law firms in the swiss german part of Switzerland.
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This is quite true. But still, they know of course that Yale is Yale and Harvard is Harvard and that the entry requirements are more selective than in other schools. So, if you have a top 5 school, it won't hurt, but it's not necessary at all. Law firms are happy if you have an LL.M. from the U.S. that's it!
But it's not true that Swiss law firms think of NYU as a mediocre University. At least not the magic circle law firms in the swiss german part of Switzerland.
Posted Apr 16, 2010 21:20
Dear roc_xel,
As with all Swiss, I wasn't sure whether to say Grüezi! or Salut!... ;)
Duke is a pretty good uni. And remember that you could always try a second LLM somewhere else if that's you thing. The thing to remember in your case is that "A Bird in the Hand is Better than Two in the Bush!"
As with all Swiss, I wasn't sure whether to say Grüezi! or Salut!... ;)
Duke is a pretty good uni. And remember that you could always try a second LLM somewhere else if that's you thing. The thing to remember in your case is that "A Bird in the Hand is Better than Two in the Bush!"
Posted Apr 20, 2010 13:04
It's Salut ! ;)
I fully agree and have eventually chosen to keep the bird in my hand instead of chasing the second one.
Durham, here I come !
I fully agree and have eventually chosen to keep the bird in my hand instead of chasing the second one.
Durham, here I come !
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