HI everyone i have got an offer from notttingham for internatonal commercial law.
i applied to UCL, Queens, Manchester, kent and leeds in late may.
wat do u guys think of nottingham should i accept the offer or still wait for other universities to reply.
wat r rhe chances??
Guys plssssssssss Reply quickly anxiety is killing me...
URGENT
Posted Jun 12, 2009 10:57
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HI everyone i have got an offer from notttingham for internatonal commercial law.
i applied to UCL, Queens, Manchester, kent and leeds in late may.
wat do u guys think of nottingham should i accept the offer or still wait for other universities to reply.
wat r rhe chances??
Guys plssssssssss Reply quickly anxiety is killing me...
i applied to UCL, Queens, Manchester, kent and leeds in late may.
wat do u guys think of nottingham should i accept the offer or still wait for other universities to reply.
wat r rhe chances??
Guys plssssssssss Reply quickly anxiety is killing me...
Posted Jun 13, 2009 18:26
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I would take the Nottingham offer as soon as possible... maybe UCL is worth the wait (but just maybe), but I think should be really (I mean REALLY) happy to have an offer from Nottingham...
I would take the Nottingham offer as soon as possible... maybe UCL is worth the wait (but just maybe), but I think should be really (I mean REALLY) happy to have an offer from Nottingham...
Posted Jun 13, 2009 19:12
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How long do you have to reply to Nottingham?
How long do you have to reply to Nottingham?
Posted Jun 13, 2009 19:33
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Lika, verfify with the Nottingham university registration office. Usually you can withdraw your acceptance until you have enrolled.
Lika, verfify with the Nottingham university registration office. Usually you can withdraw your acceptance until you have enrolled.
Posted Jun 14, 2009 05:02
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Hey thanks everyone for ur advice...
i guess i have to apply in last week of june
who all r going to nottingham for international commercial law???
Hey thanks everyone for ur advice...
i guess i have to apply in last week of june
who all r going to nottingham for international commercial law???
i guess i have to apply in last week of june
who all r going to nottingham for international commercial law???
Posted Jun 16, 2009 08:46
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I had reject Nottingham's Offer long before QMUL and UCL responded...!
I had preferred the wait...!
And to be honest it was worth the wait becoz I received an offer from QMUL and UCL both...!
I would suggest you wait for UCL and QMUL's offer.
I had reject Nottingham's Offer long before QMUL and UCL responded...!
I had preferred the wait...!
And to be honest it was worth the wait becoz I received an offer from QMUL and UCL both...!
I would suggest you wait for UCL and QMUL's offer.
I had preferred the wait...!
And to be honest it was worth the wait becoz I received an offer from QMUL and UCL both...!
I would suggest you wait for UCL and QMUL's offer.
Posted Jul 25, 2009 22:55
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Hey even i have got offer from QMUL but i am kind of decided on Notts for Int Comm LAw..
Hey even i have got offer from QMUL but i am kind of decided on Notts for Int Comm LAw..
Posted Jul 26, 2009 08:49
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I would say (though it may sound bitter) that you are making a wrong decision....if you get UCL or QMUL....then it should be them.....not Nottingham...!
I would say (though it may sound bitter) that you are making a wrong decision....if you get UCL or QMUL....then it should be them.....not Nottingham...!
Posted Jul 26, 2009 09:26
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I would say (though it may sound bitter) that you are making a wrong decision....if you get UCL or QMUL....then it should be them.....not Nottingham...!
Nottingham is extremely strong and probably one of the best in the country for international law. If one's focus is on the public international law aspects of commercial law, e.g. WTO law etc, I certainly think a case can be made in favour of Nottingham over UCL. If it's domestic commercial law, then I think UCL is the better choice. I don't think UCL is necessarily better than Nottingham in everything,
<blockquote>I would say (though it may sound bitter) that you are making a wrong decision....if you get UCL or QMUL....then it should be them.....not Nottingham...! </blockquote>
Nottingham is extremely strong and probably one of the best in the country for international law. If one's focus is on the public international law aspects of commercial law, e.g. WTO law etc, I certainly think a case can be made in favour of Nottingham over UCL. If it's domestic commercial law, then I think UCL is the better choice. I don't think UCL is necessarily better than Nottingham in everything,
Nottingham is extremely strong and probably one of the best in the country for international law. If one's focus is on the public international law aspects of commercial law, e.g. WTO law etc, I certainly think a case can be made in favour of Nottingham over UCL. If it's domestic commercial law, then I think UCL is the better choice. I don't think UCL is necessarily better than Nottingham in everything,
Posted Jul 26, 2009 09:49
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Unfortunately Interalia, I have heard from students themselves that UCL is better than Nottingham...!
Rather, if you go on to a few forums here....you will find that UoN is compared to NTU (beyond the 20th ranking)...! so you can understand what level it is at..! Not saying it is bad University...But It would be foolish to say that Nottingham is better than UCL....unless you prefer the living expense and life style or Notthingham...Becoz London is really expensive...
Unfortunately Interalia, I have heard from students themselves that UCL is better than Nottingham...!
Rather, if you go on to a few forums here....you will find that UoN is compared to NTU (beyond the 20th ranking)...! so you can understand what level it is at..! Not saying it is bad University...But It would be foolish to say that Nottingham is better than UCL....unless you prefer the living expense and life style or Notthingham...Becoz London is really expensive...
Rather, if you go on to a few forums here....you will find that UoN is compared to NTU (beyond the 20th ranking)...! so you can understand what level it is at..! Not saying it is bad University...But It would be foolish to say that Nottingham is better than UCL....unless you prefer the living expense and life style or Notthingham...Becoz London is really expensive...
Posted Jul 26, 2009 10:32
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Unfortunately Interalia, I have heard from students themselves that UCL is better than Nottingham...!
Rather, if you go on to a few forums here....you will find that UoN is compared to NTU (beyond the 20th ranking)...! so you can understand what level it is at..! Not saying it is bad University...But It would be foolish to say that Nottingham is better than UCL....unless you prefer the living expense and life style or Notthingham...Becoz London is really expensive...
Just to clarify, Nottingham is ranked 4th on the latest Times Rankings, that's pretty high for a "low level" school. Nottingham has had a tradition of being a good school in International Law, with several notable international law professors either teaching or having taught there. Harris is still there, and he's famous for his international law textbook. Furthermore, the current Jacques Delors Professor of European Community Law at Oxford - Stephen Weatherill - used to teach at Nottingham. Admittedly the only Nottingham faculty member I have ever been taught by is Weatherill - the rest of nottingham's faculty I only know by reputation - but I found him quite good, even though - at the time - he was merely a Professor visiting my undergraduate university from nottingham.
<blockquote>Unfortunately Interalia, I have heard from students themselves that UCL is better than Nottingham...!
Rather, if you go on to a few forums here....you will find that UoN is compared to NTU (beyond the 20th ranking)...! so you can understand what level it is at..! Not saying it is bad University...But It would be foolish to say that Nottingham is better than UCL....unless you prefer the living expense and life style or Notthingham...Becoz London is really expensive...</blockquote>
Just to clarify, Nottingham is ranked 4th on the latest Times Rankings, that's pretty high for a "low level" school. Nottingham has had a tradition of being a good school in International Law, with several notable international law professors either teaching or having taught there. Harris is still there, and he's famous for his international law textbook. Furthermore, the current Jacques Delors Professor of European Community Law at Oxford - Stephen Weatherill - used to teach at Nottingham. Admittedly the only Nottingham faculty member I have ever been taught by is Weatherill - the rest of nottingham's faculty I only know by reputation - but I found him quite good, even though - at the time - he was merely a Professor visiting my undergraduate university from nottingham.
Rather, if you go on to a few forums here....you will find that UoN is compared to NTU (beyond the 20th ranking)...! so you can understand what level it is at..! Not saying it is bad University...But It would be foolish to say that Nottingham is better than UCL....unless you prefer the living expense and life style or Notthingham...Becoz London is really expensive...</blockquote>
Just to clarify, Nottingham is ranked 4th on the latest Times Rankings, that's pretty high for a "low level" school. Nottingham has had a tradition of being a good school in International Law, with several notable international law professors either teaching or having taught there. Harris is still there, and he's famous for his international law textbook. Furthermore, the current Jacques Delors Professor of European Community Law at Oxford - Stephen Weatherill - used to teach at Nottingham. Admittedly the only Nottingham faculty member I have ever been taught by is Weatherill - the rest of nottingham's faculty I only know by reputation - but I found him quite good, even though - at the time - he was merely a Professor visiting my undergraduate university from nottingham.
Posted Jul 26, 2009 10:43
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let's not talk about rankings....because guardian ranks it at around 15th or something...! So it's way down the list than UCL...! whereas UCL has been ranked on both the systems within the top 5 for Law.
And there are equally good professors in UCL itself...you can't just presume anything just becoz you have not heard of any professors from UCL..!
And lets get this clear....what your professor has done in his life is of less importance than the fact that how well he can teach you the subject..!
For instance, I know a teacher who has written an excellent book on Intellectual Property Rights....but when I was actually under her it wasn't so impressive experience...but at the same institution there were teachers who didn't have reputation in writting books or having their own publications...but it was a life time experience studying under them. And I can say that they were the ones who really guided me even outside the classrooms..!
So what teachers have done and what reputation is there is of a lesser importance than how impressive that teacher is at teaching and helping you in that subject.
let's not talk about rankings....because guardian ranks it at around 15th or something...! So it's way down the list than UCL...! whereas UCL has been ranked on both the systems within the top 5 for Law.
And there are equally good professors in UCL itself...you can't just presume anything just becoz you have not heard of any professors from UCL..!
And lets get this clear....what your professor has done in his life is of less importance than the fact that how well he can teach you the subject..!
For instance, I know a teacher who has written an excellent book on Intellectual Property Rights....but when I was actually under her it wasn't so impressive experience...but at the same institution there were teachers who didn't have reputation in writting books or having their own publications...but it was a life time experience studying under them. And I can say that they were the ones who really guided me even outside the classrooms..!
So what teachers have done and what reputation is there is of a lesser importance than how impressive that teacher is at teaching and helping you in that subject.
And there are equally good professors in UCL itself...you can't just presume anything just becoz you have not heard of any professors from UCL..!
And lets get this clear....what your professor has done in his life is of less importance than the fact that how well he can teach you the subject..!
For instance, I know a teacher who has written an excellent book on Intellectual Property Rights....but when I was actually under her it wasn't so impressive experience...but at the same institution there were teachers who didn't have reputation in writting books or having their own publications...but it was a life time experience studying under them. And I can say that they were the ones who really guided me even outside the classrooms..!
So what teachers have done and what reputation is there is of a lesser importance than how impressive that teacher is at teaching and helping you in that subject.
Posted Jul 26, 2009 10:56
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Let's not talk about rankings....because guardian ranks it at around 15th or something...!
I only brought in the Times rankings to counter your previous charge that Nottingham is considered equivalent to Nottingham Trent. Even on your guardian rankings, Nottingham is 14th while Nottingham trent is 34th, far from being comparable to each other as you put it.
And there are equally good professors in UCL itself...you can't just presume anything just becoz you have not heard of any professors from UCL..!
I have to reply to clear my name because I'm afraid you're attributing to me an assertion which I did not say. I only talked about the quality of professors at Nottingham in my previous post; to counter the charge that Nottingham is low quality, Nowhere did I say that UCL didn't have accomplished International Law Professors. Philippe Sands teaches at UCL, and he's one of the biggest names in international environment law.
And lets get this clear....what your professor has done in his life is of less importance than the fact that how well he can teach you the subject..!
This. I partially agree with you. Personally, I always found a professor's ability to challenge and open up new ways of thinking a lot more important than merely imparting knowledge. To me a good professor is one who gets you to think of new questions not gives you the answers. But for the sake of argument, let assume your assertion is correct. I did relate my experience being taught under Weatherill when he was a Nottingham Professor, so I don't see how you can accuse me of merely focusing on the publications without relating it to teaching quality. Yes the anecdote I have given might be dated considering Weatherill has moved on, but unless one is actually studying at UCL or Nottingham at this present moment, I think it is difficult to give an accurate description of each respective school's teaching quality in international law either. The most a non-UCL or Nottingham student can do is rely on is hearsay which is unlikely to be extremely accurate.
<blockquote>Let's not talk about rankings....because guardian ranks it at around 15th or something...! </blockquote>
I only brought in the Times rankings to counter your previous charge that Nottingham is considered equivalent to Nottingham Trent. Even on your guardian rankings, Nottingham is 14th while Nottingham trent is 34th, far from being comparable to each other as you put it.
<blockquote> And there are equally good professors in UCL itself...you can't just presume anything just becoz you have not heard of any professors from UCL..! </blockquote>
I have to reply to clear my name because I'm afraid you're attributing to me an assertion which I did not say. I only talked about the quality of professors at Nottingham in my previous post; to counter the charge that Nottingham is low quality, Nowhere did I say that UCL didn't have accomplished International Law Professors. Philippe Sands teaches at UCL, and he's one of the biggest names in international environment law.
<blockquote> And lets get this clear....what your professor has done in his life is of less importance than the fact that how well he can teach you the subject..! </blockquote>
This. I partially agree with you. Personally, I always found a professor's ability to challenge and open up new ways of thinking a lot more important than merely imparting knowledge. To me a good professor is one who gets you to think of new questions not gives you the answers. But for the sake of argument, let assume your assertion is correct. I did relate my experience being taught under Weatherill when he was a Nottingham Professor, so I don't see how you can accuse me of merely focusing on the publications without relating it to teaching quality. Yes the anecdote I have given might be dated considering Weatherill has moved on, but unless one is actually studying at UCL or Nottingham at this present moment, I think it is difficult to give an accurate description of each respective school's teaching quality in international law either. The most a non-UCL or Nottingham student can do is rely on is hearsay which is unlikely to be extremely accurate.
I only brought in the Times rankings to counter your previous charge that Nottingham is considered equivalent to Nottingham Trent. Even on your guardian rankings, Nottingham is 14th while Nottingham trent is 34th, far from being comparable to each other as you put it.
<blockquote> And there are equally good professors in UCL itself...you can't just presume anything just becoz you have not heard of any professors from UCL..! </blockquote>
I have to reply to clear my name because I'm afraid you're attributing to me an assertion which I did not say. I only talked about the quality of professors at Nottingham in my previous post; to counter the charge that Nottingham is low quality, Nowhere did I say that UCL didn't have accomplished International Law Professors. Philippe Sands teaches at UCL, and he's one of the biggest names in international environment law.
<blockquote> And lets get this clear....what your professor has done in his life is of less importance than the fact that how well he can teach you the subject..! </blockquote>
This. I partially agree with you. Personally, I always found a professor's ability to challenge and open up new ways of thinking a lot more important than merely imparting knowledge. To me a good professor is one who gets you to think of new questions not gives you the answers. But for the sake of argument, let assume your assertion is correct. I did relate my experience being taught under Weatherill when he was a Nottingham Professor, so I don't see how you can accuse me of merely focusing on the publications without relating it to teaching quality. Yes the anecdote I have given might be dated considering Weatherill has moved on, but unless one is actually studying at UCL or Nottingham at this present moment, I think it is difficult to give an accurate description of each respective school's teaching quality in international law either. The most a non-UCL or Nottingham student can do is rely on is hearsay which is unlikely to be extremely accurate.
Posted Jul 26, 2009 11:17
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true what most of us can do is depend on hearsay evidence....but AS a rule of law....in the absence of direct evidence...only circumstantial evidence and hearsay evidence is resorted to..! And I had spoken to sufficient ex-students and present students studying LLM at both the places...it is only therefore I am telling you that UCL is better than Nottingham...!
But then it is finally your choice...
true what most of us can do is depend on hearsay evidence....but AS a rule of law....in the absence of direct evidence...only circumstantial evidence and hearsay evidence is resorted to..! And I had spoken to sufficient ex-students and present students studying LLM at both the places...it is only therefore I am telling you that UCL is better than Nottingham...!
But then it is finally your choice...
But then it is finally your choice...
Posted Jul 26, 2009 11:20
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true what most of us can do is depend on hearsay evidence....but AS a rule of law....in the absence of direct evidence...only circumstantial evidence and hearsay evidence is resorted to..! And I had spoken to sufficient ex-students and present students studying LLM at both the places...it is only therefore I am telling you that UCL is better than Nottingham...!
But then it is finally your choice...
I actually don't have a stake in this matter. I never applied to Nottingham and I declined UCL for a less famous university outside of the uk due to my personal research interests. UCL is great for my area of interest - legal philosophy - but it's strength lies in utilitarianism and analytical jurisprudence in general while I was looking for schools specialising in continental jurisprudence. I was just arguing in support of those who might want to go Nottinhgham, because I think it's unfair to ostracize them just because they made a different choice.
<blockquote>true what most of us can do is depend on hearsay evidence....but AS a rule of law....in the absence of direct evidence...only circumstantial evidence and hearsay evidence is resorted to..! And I had spoken to sufficient ex-students and present students studying LLM at both the places...it is only therefore I am telling you that UCL is better than Nottingham...!
But then it is finally your choice...</blockquote>
I actually don't have a stake in this matter. I never applied to Nottingham and I declined UCL for a less famous university outside of the uk due to my personal research interests. UCL is great for my area of interest - legal philosophy - but it's strength lies in utilitarianism and analytical jurisprudence in general while I was looking for schools specialising in continental jurisprudence. I was just arguing in support of those who might want to go Nottinhgham, because I think it's unfair to ostracize them just because they made a different choice.
But then it is finally your choice...</blockquote>
I actually don't have a stake in this matter. I never applied to Nottingham and I declined UCL for a less famous university outside of the uk due to my personal research interests. UCL is great for my area of interest - legal philosophy - but it's strength lies in utilitarianism and analytical jurisprudence in general while I was looking for schools specialising in continental jurisprudence. I was just arguing in support of those who might want to go Nottinhgham, because I think it's unfair to ostracize them just because they made a different choice.
Posted Jul 26, 2009 11:21
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so then where are you finally going to ?
so then where are you finally going to ?
Posted Jul 27, 2009 11:36
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PPL i have decided on NOTTS coz UCL guys declined my application and secondly i did not accept application from Queen Mary as acc to the hearsay evidence Queens is gud for IPR and i m interested in comm law.. hence the choice :)
PPL i have decided on NOTTS coz UCL guys declined my application and secondly i did not accept application from Queen Mary as acc to the hearsay evidence Queens is gud for IPR and i m interested in comm law.. hence the choice :)
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