Anyone from Greece or anybody in general who knows if a 6,74/10 is an upper 2nd class???
I don't get this system of grading at all :)
Upper second class
Posted Mar 02, 2007 18:47
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Anyone from Greece or anybody in general who knows if a 6,74/10 is an upper 2nd class???
I don't get this system of grading at all :)
I don't get this system of grading at all :)
Posted Mar 02, 2007 20:08
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In UK an average of 60-69 is considered a 2i or an upper 2nd class. Hence, 6.74/10 should bring you well within that category.
In UK an average of 60-69 is considered a 2i or an upper 2nd class. Hence, 6.74/10 should bring you well within that category.
Posted Mar 04, 2007 20:03
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I also do not get it. I have 7/10 and I think I am a not very good student. I applied only to programmes that require lower second class. I am now really confused, can I also apply if they require upper second class? Thanks
I also do not get it. I have 7/10 and I think I am a not very good student. I applied only to programmes that require lower second class. I am now really confused, can I also apply if they require upper second class? Thanks
Posted Mar 05, 2007 01:16
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I also do not get it. I have 7/10 and I think I am a not very good student. I applied only to programmes that require lower second class. I am now really confused, can I also apply if they require upper second class? Thanks
<blockquote>I also do not get it. I have 7/10 and I think I am a not very good student. I applied only to programmes that require lower second class. I am now really confused, can I also apply if they require upper second class? Thanks</blockquote>
Posted Mar 05, 2007 01:16
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where are u from?
where are u from?
Posted Mar 05, 2007 02:36
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whats the upper second class equivalent to the American grading system? is it a 3.5 in a 4.0 scale?
whats the upper second class equivalent to the American grading system? is it a 3.5 in a 4.0 scale?
Posted Mar 05, 2007 09:58
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I am from Slovenia. We have a 1-10 scale. But 6 is pass, 7 good, 8and 9 very good, 10 exellent. But as a LLB you can not get very good grades- University of Ljubljana is very tough.
I am from Slovenia. We have a 1-10 scale. But 6 is pass, 7 good, 8and 9 very good, 10 exellent. But as a LLB you can not get very good grades- University of Ljubljana is very tough.
Posted Mar 05, 2007 13:09
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Check the following LLM-guide thread - I've posted up a description which could be of help to those posting here:
http://www.llm-guide.com/board/21851
Where are you thinking of studying, and what subjects?
Check the following LLM-guide thread - I've posted up a description which could be of help to those posting here:
http://www.llm-guide.com/board/21851
Where are you thinking of studying, and what subjects?
http://www.llm-guide.com/board/21851
Where are you thinking of studying, and what subjects?
Posted Mar 05, 2007 16:27
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One further point in addition to C Miller's explanation is that the marking in the UK is slightly skewed. Although the marking scale is based on percentages and therefore in theory marks can be awarded up to 100, in practice marks over 70% are very rare. I would suggest that 7/10 is not necessarily going to be equivalent to a first; that would depend on the marking scheme used in a particular university. Equally, although it is possible to suggest that 10% of students get first class degrees, this a is a rule of thumb only.
One further point in addition to C Miller's explanation is that the marking in the UK is slightly skewed. Although the marking scale is based on percentages and therefore in theory marks can be awarded up to 100, in practice marks over 70% are very rare. I would suggest that 7/10 is not necessarily going to be equivalent to a first; that would depend on the marking scheme used in a particular university. Equally, although it is possible to suggest that 10% of students get first class degrees, this a is a rule of thumb only.
Posted Mar 05, 2007 17:04
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The joys of equivalency. There's an entire organisation set up to assist HEIs with understanding degrees from different countries. The University of Edinburgh uses NARIC's service to assist with this complicated area of student admissions http://www.naric.org.uk/index.asp?section=6.
Equally, although it is possible to suggest that 10% of students get first class degrees, this a is a rule of thumb only.
Further to lmwoods' point here, it is possible (though very unlikely) that 100% or 0% of all students in one year could receive a first class degree. This is because UK HEIs do not use bell curves to grade students, as happens in some other countries.
At postgraduate (LLM) level, the grading is more straightforward and generally shared amongst law schools internationally: you fail, you pass, or you pass with distinction!
The joys of equivalency. There's an entire organisation set up to assist HEIs with understanding degrees from different countries. The University of Edinburgh uses NARIC's service to assist with this complicated area of student admissions http://www.naric.org.uk/index.asp?section=6.
<blockquote> Equally, although it is possible to suggest that 10% of students get first class degrees, this a is a rule of thumb only. </blockquote>
Further to lmwoods' point here, it is possible (though very unlikely) that 100% or 0% of all students in one year could receive a first class degree. This is because UK HEIs do not use bell curves to grade students, as happens in some other countries.
At postgraduate (LLM) level, the grading is more straightforward and generally shared amongst law schools internationally: you fail, you pass, or you pass with distinction!
<blockquote> Equally, although it is possible to suggest that 10% of students get first class degrees, this a is a rule of thumb only. </blockquote>
Further to lmwoods' point here, it is possible (though very unlikely) that 100% or 0% of all students in one year could receive a first class degree. This is because UK HEIs do not use bell curves to grade students, as happens in some other countries.
At postgraduate (LLM) level, the grading is more straightforward and generally shared amongst law schools internationally: you fail, you pass, or you pass with distinction!
Posted Mar 05, 2007 17:18
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hi I am from india..i have a first class..that is 60% and above in india..where i stand in uk?
hi I am from india..i have a first class..that is 60% and above in india..where i stand in uk?
Posted Mar 05, 2007 17:44
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Rockstar, it's really difficult to say for sure without full knowledge of your transcripts and the courses you took, so please ensure that you double check my following statement with the institutions you are applying to for an LL.M, so with the caveat sufficiently highlighted....
...... if you've completed three or four years of undergraduate study and averaged over 60% throughout all your assessments in at least the last year (ideally all years), you'd likely fall in to the "very good" category, so you could be broadly considered as a 2:1 equivalent.
Something else to add is that your degree must be from a "recognised" university. NARIC's list is one primary source for The University of Edinburgh to check, though there are other lists. If your institution is not on the list, then it's unlikely your application will be accepted. If you're unsure, then you should contact the institution you are applying to and ask.
(anyone interested in receiving an informal appraisal of their likely success in applying to the LL.M Innovation, Technology and the Law (distance learning) at The University of Edinburgh, School of Law can contact me, my contact details are online at www.law.ed.ac.uk/distancelearning/contactus.htm)
Rockstar, it's really difficult to say for sure without full knowledge of your transcripts and the courses you took, so please ensure that you double check my following statement with the institutions you are applying to for an LL.M, so with the caveat sufficiently highlighted....
...... if you've completed three or four years of undergraduate study and averaged over 60% throughout all your assessments in at least the last year (ideally all years), you'd likely fall in to the "very good" category, so you could be broadly considered as a 2:1 equivalent.
Something else to add is that your degree must be from a "recognised" university. NARIC's list is one primary source for The University of Edinburgh to check, though there are other lists. If your institution is not on the list, then it's unlikely your application will be accepted. If you're unsure, then you should contact the institution you are applying to and ask.
(anyone interested in receiving an informal appraisal of their likely success in applying to the LL.M Innovation, Technology and the Law (distance learning) at The University of Edinburgh, School of Law can contact me, my contact details are online at www.law.ed.ac.uk/distancelearning/contactus.htm)
...... if you've completed three or four years of undergraduate study and averaged over 60% throughout all your assessments in at least the last year (ideally all years), you'd likely fall in to the "very good" category, so you could be broadly considered as a 2:1 equivalent.
Something else to add is that your degree must be from a "recognised" university. NARIC's list is one primary source for The University of Edinburgh to check, though there are other lists. If your institution is not on the list, then it's unlikely your application will be accepted. If you're unsure, then you should contact the institution you are applying to and ask.
(anyone interested in receiving an informal appraisal of their likely success in applying to the LL.M Innovation, Technology and the Law (distance learning) at The University of Edinburgh, School of Law can contact me, my contact details are online at www.law.ed.ac.uk/distancelearning/contactus.htm)
Posted Mar 05, 2007 18:03
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To those fom Greece 6.5-8.5=λίαν καλώς=very good
in u.k. terms 6.5-7.5 =lower second class two-two
7.5-8.5=upper second class two-one
so answering to the first who posed the question 6.74 is a lower second class two-two but do not get dissapointed although most u.k. universities require a two-one that is above 7.5 they are very lenient with this limit, I know of people that have been accepted in queen mary, london with 6.3 and if you talk to them in u.k. education fairs you will discover that their demands are just a show off and they are motivated more, like everyone in the west at least by commercial neccesities but caveat lector- there is the notable exception of Oxbridge- for entry there you must have for sure 8.0 to say the least, as far as law is concerned.Hope I have been useful.
To those fom Greece 6.5-8.5=λίαν καλώς=very good
in u.k. terms 6.5-7.5 =lower second class two-two
7.5-8.5=upper second class two-one
so answering to the first who posed the question 6.74 is a lower second class two-two but do not get dissapointed although most u.k. universities require a two-one that is above 7.5 they are very lenient with this limit, I know of people that have been accepted in queen mary, london with 6.3 and if you talk to them in u.k. education fairs you will discover that their demands are just a show off and they are motivated more, like everyone in the west at least by commercial neccesities but caveat lector- there is the notable exception of Oxbridge- for entry there you must have for sure 8.0 to say the least, as far as law is concerned.Hope I have been useful.
in u.k. terms 6.5-7.5 =lower second class two-two
7.5-8.5=upper second class two-one
so answering to the first who posed the question 6.74 is a lower second class two-two but do not get dissapointed although most u.k. universities require a two-one that is above 7.5 they are very lenient with this limit, I know of people that have been accepted in queen mary, london with 6.3 and if you talk to them in u.k. education fairs you will discover that their demands are just a show off and they are motivated more, like everyone in the west at least by commercial neccesities but caveat lector- there is the notable exception of Oxbridge- for entry there you must have for sure 8.0 to say the least, as far as law is concerned.Hope I have been useful.
Posted Mar 05, 2007 18:15
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thanx very much george! i sent my applications to UCL, KIng's and Queen Mary, I am interested in environmental Law. Hope that my 6,74 is enough.... :(
thanx very much george! i sent my applications to UCL, KIng's and Queen Mary, I am interested in environmental Law. Hope that my 6,74 is enough.... :(
Posted Mar 05, 2007 18:39
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Equally, although it is possible to suggest that 10% of students get first class degrees, this a is a rule of thumb only.
Further to lmwoods' point here, it is possible (though very unlikely) that 100% or 0% of all students in one year could receive a first class degree. This is because UK HEIs do not use bell curves to grade students, as happens in some other countries.
Just to prove C Miller's point, when I did my undergraduate law degree (obviously back in the mists of time now), no one got a first - out of 120. It may be I went to a mean institution because nowhere near 10% of students were awarded firsts in either of the previous two years.
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<blockquote> Equally, although it is possible to suggest that 10% of students get first class degrees, this a is a rule of thumb only. </blockquote>
Further to lmwoods' point here, it is possible (though very unlikely) that 100% or 0% of all students in one year could receive a first class degree. This is because UK HEIs do not use bell curves to grade students, as happens in some other countries.
</blockquote>
Just to prove C Miller's point, when I did my undergraduate law degree (obviously back in the mists of time now), no one got a first - out of 120. It may be I went to a mean institution because nowhere near 10% of students were awarded firsts in either of the previous two years.
<blockquote> Equally, although it is possible to suggest that 10% of students get first class degrees, this a is a rule of thumb only. </blockquote>
Further to lmwoods' point here, it is possible (though very unlikely) that 100% or 0% of all students in one year could receive a first class degree. This is because UK HEIs do not use bell curves to grade students, as happens in some other countries.
</blockquote>
Just to prove C Miller's point, when I did my undergraduate law degree (obviously back in the mists of time now), no one got a first - out of 120. It may be I went to a mean institution because nowhere near 10% of students were awarded firsts in either of the previous two years.
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