The Definitive 2011 Cambridge Thread


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Tallal is correct, I think.

Tallal is correct, I think.
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Elizabeta

dear all,

Admissions office answered my email very briefly saying: "We are currently processing documents which reached us on 22nd November."

What do you think is the relevant date for the fulfillment of the obligation to send the documents by 1 Dec?
The date of delivery or the date of processing?
It seems to me that it is impossible for one to know how long it takes to process the documents and the deadline of 1 Dec would be pointless!

Thanks in advance!

dear all,

Admissions office answered my email very briefly saying: "We are currently processing documents which reached us on 22nd November."

What do you think is the relevant date for the fulfillment of the obligation to send the documents by 1 Dec?
The date of delivery or the date of processing?
It seems to me that it is impossible for one to know how long it takes to process the documents and the deadline of 1 Dec would be pointless!

Thanks in advance!
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Dutchman

GUYS!
Don't panic, seriously! Obviously it's the date of delivery. And even if you don't submit the supporting documents in time after the online application, there will be a warning from the BoGS. I know that the whole procedure can get on your nerves, I experienced it last year. They are just receiving large amounts of applications and have to deal with those, so delays are NORMAL! Don't call them all the time, that probably won't make their job any easier. If your app is there, then it will be considered, no worries. Don't start a mass panic here.

GUYS!
Don't panic, seriously! Obviously it's the date of delivery. And even if you don't submit the supporting documents in time after the online application, there will be a warning from the BoGS. I know that the whole procedure can get on your nerves, I experienced it last year. They are just receiving large amounts of applications and have to deal with those, so delays are NORMAL! Don't call them all the time, that probably won't make their job any easier. If your app is there, then it will be considered, no worries. Don't start a mass panic here.
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KPIZO

Tallal is correct, I think.


But Tall why do you think that those people who applied by papers were asked to send CV but we whom we applied online we didnt asked to bring CV dont you think that CV plays a big role or what they consider the most?Recomendation ?

<blockquote>Tallal is correct, I think.</blockquote>

But Tall why do you think that those people who applied by papers were asked to send CV but we whom we applied online we didnt asked to bring CV dont you think that CV plays a big role or what they consider the most?Recomendation ?
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Tallal

CVs are mostly required by the US law schools. UK law schools tend to focus on your academic transcripts, references, personal statement and work experience if they require any. To me CVs dont matter much because they just give a brief summary of what you have done in the recent past years. I dont know how much does the admissions office gives value to them.

CVs are mostly required by the US law schools. UK law schools tend to focus on your academic transcripts, references, personal statement and work experience if they require any. To me CVs dont matter much because they just give a brief summary of what you have done in the recent past years. I dont know how much does the admissions office gives value to them.
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Skiia

Hey everyone !

I saw Cambridge's website state that the application deadline for the LL.M. programme is 1 December.
However, I applied online earlier and the due date to send them my supporting documents appear to be 7 December.

I should send my documents today, but since I had some trouble gathering some documents, I couldn't send them so they arrive at Cambridge by today.

Do you think they will still consider my application ? The contradiction between the website date and the self-service platform date makes me worry !

Many thanks !

Hey everyone !

I saw Cambridge's website state that the application deadline for the LL.M. programme is 1 December.
However, I applied online earlier and the due date to send them my supporting documents appear to be 7 December.

I should send my documents today, but since I had some trouble gathering some documents, I couldn't send them so they arrive at Cambridge by today.

Do you think they will still consider my application ? The contradiction between the website date and the self-service platform date makes me worry !

Many thanks !
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Tallal

I think if you have submitted your application in time then the late arrival of documents will not matter.

I think if you have submitted your application in time then the late arrival of documents will not matter.
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As a current student, I'm not 100% sure of the answer to your question, because I applied well before the deadline. But I'll tell you that the Law Faculty in general seems *very* relaxed about things like this. For instance, this past September, they sent out an email form for us to accept/decline our offers and gave us a deadline to respond. Apparently 25% of the people did not respond before the start of the course. So, a professor happily told us at the introductory lectures, "I guess we'll figure out whether you guys are here when you register for courses in a few weeks."

Also, when I was applying to Cambridge, my adviser (at a university that sends many people to Cambridge for grad school each year) told me that Cambridge takes a very relaxed attitude to deadlines in general. This means both that they will rarely get back to you promptly when you want them to, and they won't get very upset if you don't get back to them promptly. Depending on your approach to life, this is either great or very frustrating.

As a current student, I'm not 100% sure of the answer to your question, because I applied well before the deadline. But I'll tell you that the Law Faculty in general seems *very* relaxed about things like this. For instance, this past September, they sent out an email form for us to accept/decline our offers and gave us a deadline to respond. Apparently 25% of the people did not respond before the start of the course. So, a professor happily told us at the introductory lectures, "I guess we'll figure out whether you guys are here when you register for courses in a few weeks."

Also, when I was applying to Cambridge, my adviser (at a university that sends many people to Cambridge for grad school each year) told me that Cambridge takes a very relaxed attitude to deadlines in general. This means both that they will rarely get back to you promptly when you want them to, and they won't get very upset if you don't get back to them promptly. Depending on your approach to life, this is either great or very frustrating.
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Glennie

Hey guys,

We're all facing a long wait before there's any chance of results, so I thought we could pass at least some of that time by getting to know the people that, with luck, will be our classmates next year.

So, to start things off...

I graduated in 2007 and have been working for 3 years. I spent some time in the UK as an exchange student as an undergrad and I'd love to study there again.

I've put Jesus and Hughes Hall down as my college preferences. I know that Hughes Hall is a *controversial* choice, but my earlier time in the UK proved to me that living with undergrads is a drag and I quite like the idea of Hughes' large number of LLM students. I also want to avoid being pooled and ending up in a single-sex college! I know that it's not one of Cambridge's most historic colleges, but it's still older than my Australian university.

So... who's next?

Hey guys,

We're all facing a long wait before there's any chance of results, so I thought we could pass at least some of that time by getting to know the people that, with luck, will be our classmates next year.

So, to start things off...

I graduated in 2007 and have been working for 3 years. I spent some time in the UK as an exchange student as an undergrad and I'd love to study there again.

I've put Jesus and Hughes Hall down as my college preferences. I know that Hughes Hall is a *controversial* choice, but my earlier time in the UK proved to me that living with undergrads is a drag and I quite like the idea of Hughes' large number of LLM students. I also want to avoid being pooled and ending up in a single-sex college! I know that it's not one of Cambridge's most historic colleges, but it's still older than my Australian university.

So... who's next?
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Mac23

hi everibody!!
I graduated earlier this year, started a traineeship in a law firm and I am teaching assistant at the Univ. from which I graduated. I chose Trinity as first choice( i now realise it has been a mistake because i don't think i have any chance) and magdalene as second choice! the strong point of my appl. is my GPA....I am also applying for Oxford.

hi everibody!!
I graduated earlier this year, started a traineeship in a law firm and I am teaching assistant at the Univ. from which I graduated. I chose Trinity as first choice( i now realise it has been a mistake because i don't think i have any chance) and magdalene as second choice! the strong point of my appl. is my GPA....I am also applying for Oxford.
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Glennie

hi everibody!!
I graduated earlier this year, started a traineeship in a law firm and I am teaching assistant at the Univ. from which I graduated. I chose Trinity as first choice( i now realise it has been a mistake because i don't think i have any chance) and magdalene as second choice! the strong point of my appl. is my GPA....I am also applying for Oxford.


At least you'd done enough research to know that Trinity is "the place to be". It was only after I submitted my application that I started trawling these forums and realised everyone seems to have their heart set on Trinity.

I'm also applying to Oxford, but Cambridge is the offer I really want. I've got no rational reason for that though. Realistically, there are a lot more funding opportunities for Oxford, so in the very unlikely event that I received offers to both, that might make my decision for me.

<blockquote>hi everibody!!
I graduated earlier this year, started a traineeship in a law firm and I am teaching assistant at the Univ. from which I graduated. I chose Trinity as first choice( i now realise it has been a mistake because i don't think i have any chance) and magdalene as second choice! the strong point of my appl. is my GPA....I am also applying for Oxford.</blockquote>

At least you'd done enough research to know that Trinity is "the place to be". It was only after I submitted my application that I started trawling these forums and realised everyone seems to have their heart set on Trinity.

I'm also applying to Oxford, but Cambridge is the offer I really want. I've got no rational reason for that though. Realistically, there are a lot more funding opportunities for Oxford, so in the very unlikely event that I received offers to both, that might make my decision for me.
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I know that Hughes Hall is a *controversial* choice, but my earlier time in the UK proved to me that living with undergrads is a drag and I quite like the idea of Hughes' large number of LLM students.


Just FYI: those of us living in mixed (undergrad/grad) colleges aren't "living with undergrads." As is fairly typical, my college houses almost all of its postgrads within 3-5 minutes of college, but outside. We get none of the undergrad noise and socialize in wholly separate MCR events.

That said, my classmates who are at Hughes Hall seem to be fine with it. Their main frustrations (for those who didn't request Hughes, which is true of almost everyone I know) are the modern architecture and less traditional formal halls, and the fact that the college ran out of housing this year, forcing many of them off-site. Presumably you know about and are fine with the former, and hopefully the latter will not be true for you this coming year.

As for Trinity being the place to be: I think that's only in the minds of applicants posting online. I had the same impression last year when I was applying. But since I've gotten to Cambridge, Trinity rarely even comes up, most people are quite happy with their colleges, and no one sits around expressing regret that their not at Trinity. This is particularly true of LLMs. Trinity reportedly takes only one LLM student a year; that's certainly what they did this year. Apparently they are slower to take people from "modern" fields such as law and business. So, given that virtually none of your LLM classmates will be at Trinity, "Trinity envy" probably won't come up at all for you next year.

<blockquote>I know that Hughes Hall is a *controversial* choice, but my earlier time in the UK proved to me that living with undergrads is a drag and I quite like the idea of Hughes' large number of LLM students.</blockquote>

Just FYI: those of us living in mixed (undergrad/grad) colleges aren't "living with undergrads." As is fairly typical, my college houses almost all of its postgrads within 3-5 minutes of college, but outside. We get none of the undergrad noise and socialize in wholly separate MCR events.

That said, my classmates who are at Hughes Hall seem to be fine with it. Their main frustrations (for those who didn't request Hughes, which is true of almost everyone I know) are the modern architecture and less traditional formal halls, and the fact that the college ran out of housing this year, forcing many of them off-site. Presumably you know about and are fine with the former, and hopefully the latter will not be true for you this coming year.

As for Trinity being the place to be: I think that's only in the minds of applicants posting online. I had the same impression last year when I was applying. But since I've gotten to Cambridge, Trinity rarely even comes up, most people are quite happy with their colleges, and no one sits around expressing regret that their not at Trinity. This is particularly true of LLMs. Trinity reportedly takes only one LLM student a year; that's certainly what they did this year. Apparently they are slower to take people from "modern" fields such as law and business. So, given that virtually none of your LLM classmates will be at Trinity, "Trinity envy" probably won't come up at all for you next year.
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Glennie

Just FYI: those of us living in mixed (undergrad/grad) colleges aren't "living with undergrads." As is fairly typical, my college houses almost all of its postgrads within 3-5 minutes of college, but outside. We get none of the undergrad noise, socialize in wholly separate MCR events, and even have a grad-only weekly formal (formal hall the other nights of the week is mixed, of course).


Thanks for the inside info. I don't know whether knowing that postgrads are actually housed separately would have changed my choice, but it's too late to do anything about it now. And worrying about my college choice seems very premature when we're still months off knowing whether that will ever be an issue!

<blockquote>Just FYI: those of us living in mixed (undergrad/grad) colleges aren't "living with undergrads." As is fairly typical, my college houses almost all of its postgrads within 3-5 minutes of college, but outside. We get none of the undergrad noise, socialize in wholly separate MCR events, and even have a grad-only weekly formal (formal hall the other nights of the week is mixed, of course).</blockquote>

Thanks for the inside info. I don't know whether knowing that postgrads are actually housed separately would have changed my choice, but it's too late to do anything about it now. And worrying about my college choice seems very premature when we're still months off knowing whether that will ever be an issue!
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JsDupont

I graduated in 2009 in Canada (but have taken a few courses in Beijing) and was called to the bar this summer and have been working in IP law ever since.

I've put Trinity and Hughes Halls as my choices and now I regret it lol..

I graduated in 2009 in Canada (but have taken a few courses in Beijing) and was called to the bar this summer and have been working in IP law ever since.

I've put Trinity and Hughes Halls as my choices and now I regret it lol..
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Mac23

If i received offers from both i would go for Oxford, cause i want to pursue an academic career and there's no place in Europe better than Oxford for my goal!! for oxford i probably will choose st. john's college, i think it's a good choice, what do you think? any advice about that?

If i received offers from both i would go for Oxford, cause i want to pursue an academic career and there's no place in Europe better than Oxford for my goal!! for oxford i probably will choose st. john's college, i think it's a good choice, what do you think? any advice about that?
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KPIZO

Hi guys what if somewhone didnt have a college preference would the Commetee place some where ?

Hi guys what if somewhone didnt have a college preference would the Commetee place some where ?
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Hi guys what if somewhone didnt have a college preference would the Commetee place some where ?


If you don't have a College preference, you will be allocated to a college after admission. The BoGS will send your application to different colleges for their consideration. You are likely to be allocated to an undersubscribed college, meaning a college that fewer people have specified as their first or second choice. This means it is less likely to be central, on the river, old/traditional, and coed (if you are female), though it may still be some or all of those things. I'd say most people (80-90%+) of the people I encounter are happy with their colleges, no matter what their attributes, so you'll probably be fine wherever you are placed. At the same time, it's difficult to imagine someone who has taken the time to read about the colleges having absolutely no preference. They do have their own distinct attributes, and you probably won't regret taking the time to think about what you would enjoy in a college.

<blockquote>Hi guys what if somewhone didnt have a college preference would the Commetee place some where ?</blockquote>

If you don't have a College preference, you will be allocated to a college after admission. The BoGS will send your application to different colleges for their consideration. You are likely to be allocated to an undersubscribed college, meaning a college that fewer people have specified as their first or second choice. This means it is less likely to be central, on the river, old/traditional, and coed (if you are female), though it may still be some or all of those things. I'd say most people (80-90%+) of the people I encounter are happy with their colleges, no matter what their attributes, so you'll probably be fine wherever you are placed. At the same time, it's difficult to imagine someone who has taken the time to read about the colleges having absolutely no preference. They do have their own distinct attributes, and you probably won't regret taking the time to think about what you would enjoy in a college.
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Skiia

Hey Everyone !

I was checking out again the list of documents to be sent to Cambridge and it struck me that I forgot to include three copies of my transcripts and only included one - but I have actually sent three copies of each of the other documents...

Do you think this will prejudice my application ? I'm really worried right now... feeling stupid too >_

Hey Everyone !

I was checking out again the list of documents to be sent to Cambridge and it struck me that I forgot to include three copies of my transcripts and only included one - but I have actually sent three copies of each of the other documents...

Do you think this will prejudice my application ? I'm really worried right now... feeling stupid too >_
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delane

I am sure that if you call the BoGA you will be able to rectify the situation without too much difficulty. I think it would be worse if you had not submitted any transcript at all. Good Luck!

I am sure that if you call the BoGA you will be able to rectify the situation without too much difficulty. I think it would be worse if you had not submitted any transcript at all. Good Luck!
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delane

Hello Everyone,

cambridge11 - can you give me an idea of the number/profile of "non-traditional" students amongst your current peer group? by non-traditional, I am suggesting people who do not have legal backgrounds and were admitted to the llm programme. many thanks!

Hello Everyone,

cambridge11 - can you give me an idea of the number/profile of "non-traditional" students amongst your current peer group? by non-traditional, I am suggesting people who do not have legal backgrounds and were admitted to the llm programme. many thanks!
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