Oxford BCL/MJur 2013-2014


Oliver_J
Sounds like you'll have a good chance :)

However if you are currently in second year, don't you have another year to complete after this one?
Sounds like you'll have a good chance :)

However if you are currently in second year, don't you have another year to complete after this one?
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Sorry I probably phrased that poorly; my second year results were top 2-3%- I'm now in my third year!
Sorry I probably phrased that poorly; my second year results were top 2-3%- I'm now in my third year!
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How about Oxford MLF; anyone has applied to it?

I applied just to MLF and I am wondering if I should have given the BCL/MJur a shot.
How about Oxford MLF; anyone has applied to it?

I applied just to MLF and I am wondering if I should have given the BCL/MJur a shot.
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Hey, I was thinking of re-applying for the BCL. Didnt make it the last time. Does anyone know how re-applications are generally considered? I know they say that they judge an application individually on its own merit, but does anyone know what the ground reality is and whether re-applicants actually ever make it?
Hey, I was thinking of re-applying for the BCL. Didnt make it the last time. Does anyone know how re-applications are generally considered? I know they say that they judge an application individually on its own merit, but does anyone know what the ground reality is and whether re-applicants actually ever make it?
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C204
Hi all,

I've been going through the BCL threads on this site for the past half hour and wondered if anyone would care to comment on my chances of getting on to the course. I understand that there are many factors to consider and that there's no way to tell for sure. I'm also leaning towards the side of 'no chance in hell', but hey, I've got nothing to lose by asking. My 'stats':

- 2:1 LL.B from Cardiff Uni - firsts in a few modules, 65-68 in most others, 62 in two modules, if I recall correctly;
- Outstanding on the Bar Professional Training Course at Cardiff - top four in my year; and
- Working as a paralegal for the past year.

I know a first class undergraduate degree is normally required but the admissions criteria state that 'equivalent qualifications may include a Postgraduate Diploma in Law', which is what the BPTC is. So, essentially I'm wondering how much weight the BPTC carries.

Thanks in advance.
Hi all,

I've been going through the BCL threads on this site for the past half hour and wondered if anyone would care to comment on my chances of getting on to the course. I understand that there are many factors to consider and that there's no way to tell for sure. I'm also leaning towards the side of 'no chance in hell', but hey, I've got nothing to lose by asking. My 'stats':

- 2:1 LL.B from Cardiff Uni - firsts in a few modules, 65-68 in most others, 62 in two modules, if I recall correctly;
- Outstanding on the Bar Professional Training Course at Cardiff - top four in my year; and
- Working as a paralegal for the past year.

I know a first class undergraduate degree is normally required but the admissions criteria state that 'equivalent qualifications may include a Postgraduate Diploma in Law', which is what the BPTC is. So, essentially I'm wondering how much weight the BPTC carries.

Thanks in advance.
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Your grade is usually the first thing they look at. A First is generally required - haven't met anyone in my year who don't have a First. In fact, I just met an Oxford grad who couldn't do the BCL because he got a 2:1. I guess, because they can't make an offer to everybody, they have to reject even applicants with a First sometimes. No harm in applying though.
Your grade is usually the first thing they look at. A First is generally required - haven't met anyone in my year who don't have a First. In fact, I just met an Oxford grad who couldn't do the BCL because he got a 2:1. I guess, because they can't make an offer to everybody, they have to reject even applicants with a First sometimes. No harm in applying though.
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I'm in my third year now; do you have any idea how they'll react to a first in second year (with several awards) but a high 2.2/low 2.1 in first year?

Cheers!
I'm in my third year now; do you have any idea how they'll react to a first in second year (with several awards) but a high 2.2/low 2.1 in first year?

Cheers!
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I'm in my third year now; do you have any idea how they'll react to a first in second year (with several awards) but a high 2.2/low 2.1 in first year?

Cheers!


I wouldn't worry too much about individual grade in individual year provided you can show that you're on the track of obtaining a First.
<blockquote>I'm in my third year now; do you have any idea how they'll react to a first in second year (with several awards) but a high 2.2/low 2.1 in first year?

Cheers!</blockquote>

I wouldn't worry too much about individual grade in individual year provided you can show that you're on the track of obtaining a First.
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Yeah, my lecture said that because for the three references they had to say where in the year I am and where they think i'll finish or something and they all sort of coordinated to say the same thing!

That's definitely put my mind at ease, hopefully with good references/essay/SOP etc i'll be okay!
Yeah, my lecture said that because for the three references they had to say where in the year I am and where they think i'll finish or something and they all sort of coordinated to say the same thing!

That's definitely put my mind at ease, hopefully with good references/essay/SOP etc i'll be okay!
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Mark W
Does anyone know if there are any home students from what would be considered a 'poor' first university who are on the BCL? Is it even possible to get good enough grades for them to overlook the fact you aren't at a Russell Group / 1994 Group University?

I go to a low-ranked school but my grades are very good - lowest module grade 76%, highest 87%, average 80%; highest mark in every module but one in my law-school; highest overall mark. Doing Essex Court moot and won one round so far (still in it). Captain of our University Challenge Team for the next season. My academic references would be extremely good - but is an academic reference from a law school ranked 50+ worth anything?
Does anyone know if there are any home students from what would be considered a 'poor' first university who are on the BCL? Is it even possible to get good enough grades for them to overlook the fact you aren't at a Russell Group / 1994 Group University?

I go to a low-ranked school but my grades are very good - lowest module grade 76%, highest 87%, average 80%; highest mark in every module but one in my law-school; highest overall mark. Doing Essex Court moot and won one round so far (still in it). Captain of our University Challenge Team for the next season. My academic references would be extremely good - but is an academic reference from a law school ranked 50+ worth anything?
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ajayail
hey guys I have scored 66.33% in LLB IN 2011(panjab university india) . what r my chances in LSE, UCL OR KINGS..any suggestions ..please
hey guys I have scored 66.33% in LLB IN 2011(panjab university india) . what r my chances in LSE, UCL OR KINGS..any suggestions ..please
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oi210
I'm applying BCL althought I can't afford it in any measure so if I don't get a full scholarship I can't go!

Erm cv, I'm in final year at a top10/Russell group uni, I have a first in 1st and 2nd year, I came top of the year in both years hoping I will in 3rd; I have over 70% in all of the modules bar two, but I only have 71/72 in everything and it says "exceptional first" so who knows, it's one thing to get in in the first place, but asking them to give you £40,000 to do it is another!

I've done national mooting and internships ect but apparently they aren't that bothered about non-academics save to prove your are time efficient? Any comments on this, it seems odd?

Did anyone notice the personal statement thing changed this year an the new document says it should only be 300 words? I swear you can't write anything in that!
I'm applying BCL althought I can't afford it in any measure so if I don't get a full scholarship I can't go!

Erm cv, I'm in final year at a top10/Russell group uni, I have a first in 1st and 2nd year, I came top of the year in both years hoping I will in 3rd; I have over 70% in all of the modules bar two, but I only have 71/72 in everything and it says "exceptional first" so who knows, it's one thing to get in in the first place, but asking them to give you £40,000 to do it is another!

I've done national mooting and internships ect but apparently they aren't that bothered about non-academics save to prove your are time efficient? Any comments on this, it seems odd?

Did anyone notice the personal statement thing changed this year an the new document says it should only be 300 words? I swear you can't write anything in that!
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oi210
hey guys I have scored 66.33% in LLB IN 2011(panjab university india) . what r my chances in LSE, UCL OR KINGS..any suggestions ..please


Am I right in thinking that in India, 60% is our 70%? I.e. you need 60+ for a 1st?
<blockquote>hey guys I have scored 66.33% in LLB IN 2011(panjab university india) . what r my chances in LSE, UCL OR KINGS..any suggestions ..please</blockquote>

Am I right in thinking that in India, 60% is our 70%? I.e. you need 60+ for a 1st?
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oi210
I'm at the University of Reading, I got a high 2.2 in first year (long story, very disappointed) but in second year I got a first, like top three in my year (out of about 185), lowest mark was 65% and the highest was 85%. I also received an award from the university that is given to the top 80 students in the whole university.

I'm Master of Moots, President of the Debate Society and coordinate a pro bono project that has over 250 students taking part.

I also spent last summer working for a front bench MP on a part-time research and policy development internship. This mainly focussed on researching Bills passing through Parliament.

Anyone got any idea what my chances are? My lecturers all seem pretty confident (since they're giving me excellent references) and say that first year isn't too important.

Any thoughts?

Cheers!


Someone else from the uk!
If your first year grades don't count hopefully they won't mind if your predicted 1st

Have you written an essay yet?
<blockquote>I'm at the University of Reading, I got a high 2.2 in first year (long story, very disappointed) but in second year I got a first, like top three in my year (out of about 185), lowest mark was 65% and the highest was 85%. I also received an award from the university that is given to the top 80 students in the whole university.

I'm Master of Moots, President of the Debate Society and coordinate a pro bono project that has over 250 students taking part.

I also spent last summer working for a front bench MP on a part-time research and policy development internship. This mainly focussed on researching Bills passing through Parliament.

Anyone got any idea what my chances are? My lecturers all seem pretty confident (since they're giving me excellent references) and say that first year isn't too important.

Any thoughts?

Cheers!</blockquote>

Someone else from the uk!
If your first year grades don't count hopefully they won't mind if your predicted 1st

Have you written an essay yet?
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oi210
Does anyone know if there are any home students from what would be considered a 'poor' first university who are on the BCL? Is it even possible to get good enough grades for them to overlook the fact you aren't at a Russell Group / 1994 Group University?

I go to a low-ranked school but my grades are very good - lowest module grade 76%, highest 87%, average 80%; highest mark in every module but one in my law-school; highest overall mark. Doing Essex Court moot and won one round so far (still in it). Captain of our University Challenge Team for the next season. My academic references would be extremely good - but is an academic reference from a law school ranked 50+ worth anything?



There are people from Manchester met ( well i met one in london) that went and that isn't ranked very highly; I would hope that it doesn't matter but who knows

I would think that if your essay is good as well as the good marks then maybe it's more if they like you academically :s if the way they do it at undergrad is any indication
<blockquote>Does anyone know if there are any home students from what would be considered a 'poor' first university who are on the BCL? Is it even possible to get good enough grades for them to overlook the fact you aren't at a Russell Group / 1994 Group University?

I go to a low-ranked school but my grades are very good - lowest module grade 76%, highest 87%, average 80%; highest mark in every module but one in my law-school; highest overall mark. Doing Essex Court moot and won one round so far (still in it). Captain of our University Challenge Team for the next season. My academic references would be extremely good - but is an academic reference from a law school ranked 50+ worth anything?</blockquote>


There are people from Manchester met ( well i met one in london) that went and that isn't ranked very highly; I would hope that it doesn't matter but who knows

I would think that if your essay is good as well as the good marks then maybe it's more if they like you academically :s if the way they do it at undergrad is any indication
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oi210
Your grade is usually the first thing they look at. A First is generally required - haven't met anyone in my year who don't have a First. In fact, I just met an Oxford grad who couldn't do the BCL because he got a 2:1. I guess, because they can't make an offer to everybody, they have to reject even applicants with a First sometimes. No harm in applying though.


We're most of the BCL students from the UK undergrads from Oxbridge, or were there many other uk university graduates?
<blockquote>Your grade is usually the first thing they look at. A First is generally required - haven't met anyone in my year who don't have a First. In fact, I just met an Oxford grad who couldn't do the BCL because he got a 2:1. I guess, because they can't make an offer to everybody, they have to reject even applicants with a First sometimes. No harm in applying though.</blockquote>

We're most of the BCL students from the UK undergrads from Oxbridge, or were there many other uk university graduates?
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Someone else from the uk!
If your first year grades don't count hopefully they won't mind if your predicted 1st

Have you written an essay yet?


Yeah, i'm really hoping they won't mind. I know my lecturers said they tend to look at the references (they're asked to say what percentage of the year you fall into..e.g. top 5%, 10% etc.), so that should be okay since they all put me in the top 5%!

I've just finished it last week, I didn't really know what to do it on so I just reworked an essay I got 85% on last year about the constitutional significance of the Fixed-Term Parliaments Act 2011! Yourself?
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Someone else from the uk!
If your first year grades don't count hopefully they won't mind if your predicted 1st

Have you written an essay yet?</blockquote>


Yeah, i'm really hoping they won't mind. I know my lecturers said they tend to look at the references (they're asked to say what percentage of the year you fall into..e.g. top 5%, 10% etc.), so that should be okay since they all put me in the top 5%!

I've just finished it last week, I didn't really know what to do it on so I just reworked an essay I got 85% on last year about the constitutional significance of the Fixed-Term Parliaments Act 2011! Yourself?
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oi210
Well i didnt have any coursework essays that were 2000 words (all of them were 2,500+) so I wrote one over the summer instead (whilst i was meant to be working at work)

Its on restitution of unjust enrichment in contract/antitrust.

Do you want to use the BCl to go to the bar? Haha I was told at a chancery set "oh you are applying for the BCL" , "yes I am", "oh thats good, make sure you do it", "oh ok why?", "well you are a very good candidate but I probarbly wont read your application if you dont have one, our last 5 new tennants all did it"

How are you planning to fund it?
Well i didnt have any coursework essays that were 2000 words (all of them were 2,500+) so I wrote one over the summer instead (whilst i was meant to be working at work)

Its on restitution of unjust enrichment in contract/antitrust.

Do you want to use the BCl to go to the bar? Haha I was told at a chancery set "oh you are applying for the BCL" , "yes I am", "oh thats good, make sure you do it", "oh ok why?", "well you are a very good candidate but I probarbly wont read your application if you dont have one, our last 5 new tennants all did it"

How are you planning to fund it?
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Brainy Smu...
I wonder if applicants select Oxford for the rigour or name?
I wonder if applicants select Oxford for the rigour or name?
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We're most of the BCL students from the UK undergrads from Oxbridge, or were there many other uk university graduates?


There are much more from other Universities. It is a very diverse community.
<blockquote>We're most of the BCL students from the UK undergrads from Oxbridge, or were there many other uk university graduates? </blockquote>

There are much more from other Universities. It is a very diverse community.
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