Oxford BCL and Cambridge LLM Applicants 2009


AlvinSee

Well, I'm always positive and optimistic, even if others might see it as ignorance and being naive. If I don't get an offer, I'll just happily move on and apply again another time, no worries. Your last statement only indicates that you are much older than me, isn't it? Haha :D

Well, I'm always positive and optimistic, even if others might see it as ignorance and being naive. If I don't get an offer, I'll just happily move on and apply again another time, no worries. Your last statement only indicates that you are much older than me, isn't it? Haha :D
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S_Dimelow

some professor at cambridge advised me to go for an llm at london or edinburgh.... the reasoning: it is a lot tougher getting a first class at oxbridge then at london/ediburgh. and one needs a first class in llm to start a phd/dphil at oxbridge. equal wieghtage is given to the above said universities or even a few home universities... n the said person argues that many students with a first in llb and good records throughout, failed to score a first at oxbridge. even u miss it by whisker, its a big miss..
so as it goes london(LSE, KCL, UCL, even QUML(as suggested)) and edinburgh are equal to oxbridge, and one may opt for a place that offers scholarship...


That is an interesting point. I've been reflecting on the option of a UOL/Nottingham/Edinburgh/Durham LLM and then Oxbridge PhD as I think the Oxbridge modules are slightly limiting when it comes to my interests. I can find 4 or 5 options at Cambridge which are somewhat disparate but the BCL options don't overly float my boat, at least so far.

<blockquote>some professor at cambridge advised me to go for an llm at london or edinburgh.... the reasoning: it is a lot tougher getting a first class at oxbridge then at london/ediburgh. and one needs a first class in llm to start a phd/dphil at oxbridge. equal wieghtage is given to the above said universities or even a few home universities... n the said person argues that many students with a first in llb and good records throughout, failed to score a first at oxbridge. even u miss it by whisker, its a big miss..
so as it goes london(LSE, KCL, UCL, even QUML(as suggested)) and edinburgh are equal to oxbridge, and one may opt for a place that offers scholarship...</blockquote>

That is an interesting point. I've been reflecting on the option of a UOL/Nottingham/Edinburgh/Durham LLM and then Oxbridge PhD as I think the Oxbridge modules are slightly limiting when it comes to my interests. I can find 4 or 5 options at Cambridge which are somewhat disparate but the BCL options don't overly float my boat, at least so far.
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S_Dimelow

I think you've hit the nail on the head; does the Oxbridge brand outweigh the benefits of UOLs huge module database? I think if the student intends to go to the Bar, or return home and practice, it is warranted. But if the student intends to go into academia then, unless the interests tie into to the options offered, perhaps it's best avoiding them until research study. I say that, but after visiting both I soon forgot rationale and got aborded in the institutions, lol.

Notably, I'm interested in legal history, IP and international trade/shipping and toying between specialising in each. Fortunately, Cambridge would allow me to balance 2 IP modules against 2 legal history modules but I struggle to get passed the point that QMUL (IP/ history)/UCL (shipping), Edinburgh (history/international/IP), Nottm (Trade) would give me a better base to research with. Plus, a PhD from Oxbridge remains a viable option.

London has the Institute for Advanced Legal Studies, which they seem to share and, as you say, the benefit of an incredibly diverse intake and an incredibly active research environment.

I think you've hit the nail on the head; does the Oxbridge brand outweigh the benefits of UOLs huge module database? I think if the student intends to go to the Bar, or return home and practice, it is warranted. But if the student intends to go into academia then, unless the interests tie into to the options offered, perhaps it's best avoiding them until research study. I say that, but after visiting both I soon forgot rationale and got aborded in the institutions, lol.

Notably, I'm interested in legal history, IP and international trade/shipping and toying between specialising in each. Fortunately, Cambridge would allow me to balance 2 IP modules against 2 legal history modules but I struggle to get passed the point that QMUL (IP/ history)/UCL (shipping), Edinburgh (history/international/IP), Nottm (Trade) would give me a better base to research with. Plus, a PhD from Oxbridge remains a viable option.

London has the Institute for Advanced Legal Studies, which they seem to share and, as you say, the benefit of an incredibly diverse intake and an incredibly active research environment.
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S_Dimelow

Exactly, come spring we will be deciding between our offers and debating the merits of each.

I'm from the UK, studied Law at Cardiff. It wasn't my first choice because I originally went there to study something completely different and transfered at the end of my first year. Still, its a fair uni and I don't dwell on regrets too much.

What about you?

Exactly, come spring we will be deciding between our offers and debating the merits of each.

I'm from the UK, studied Law at Cardiff. It wasn't my first choice because I originally went there to study something completely different and transfered at the end of my first year. Still, its a fair uni and I don't dwell on regrets too much.

What about you?
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S_Dimelow

I'm doing some research work at a couple of universitys as an assistant and might be moving into seminar teaching, if we can hammer out some plans.

I've got a friend who went onto the Commercial Law LLM. Seems to be enjoying it. I don't knock it, its a solid university and served me well. I'm just looking for something different at postgraduate level and will be better served elsewhere.

I'm doing some research work at a couple of universitys as an assistant and might be moving into seminar teaching, if we can hammer out some plans.

I've got a friend who went onto the Commercial Law LLM. Seems to be enjoying it. I don't knock it, its a solid university and served me well. I'm just looking for something different at postgraduate level and will be better served elsewhere.
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AlvinSee

I've handed in mine last friday. I've submitted my application online and the tracking system is superb. It updates me immediately when my referees send my reference. Which colleges did u choose?

I've handed in mine last friday. I've submitted my application online and the tracking system is superb. It updates me immediately when my referees send my reference. Which colleges did u choose?
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How do you acceed to the Oxford tracking system?
I cannot understand.
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How do you acceed to the Oxford tracking system?
I cannot understand.
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AlvinSee

https://apply.embark.com/grad/Oxford/

Did you apply online or through papers?

https://apply.embark.com/grad/Oxford/

Did you apply online or through papers?
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AlvinSee

Dear Jagbir, Is CAMSIS even one for tracking status? Indeed, you will be notified that you have gotten an offer, but for the next 4 months, the status will most probably stay 'applicant'.

Dear Jagbir, Is CAMSIS even one for tracking status? Indeed, you will be notified that you have gotten an offer, but for the next 4 months, the status will most probably stay 'applicant'.
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still, one does have something to bang one's head at...)

still, one does have something to bang one's head at...)
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AlvinSee

-_-" Haha. Well, its technically one, but practically none.

-_-" Haha. Well, its technically one, but practically none.
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