I have received offers from NYU and LSE (and UCL).
I will specialise in public international law. Which has the stronger programme?
Finances are not an issue and I like New York and London equally.
NYU v LSE
Posted Mar 05, 2016 23:07
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I have received offers from NYU and LSE (and UCL).
I will specialise in public international law. Which has the stronger programme?
Finances are not an issue and I like New York and London equally.
I will specialise in public international law. Which has the stronger programme?
Finances are not an issue and I like New York and London equally.
Posted Mar 06, 2016 02:58
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I have received offers from NYU and LSE (and UCL).
I will specialise in public international law. Which has the stronger programme?
Finances are not an issue and I like New York and London equally.
I would choose NYU over LSE easily. An extra advantage is that you can probably do UN externships at NYU. The prestige is more as well.
For your specialty I would choose NYU over any of the UK law schools. They are just not worth it.
<blockquote>I have received offers from NYU and LSE (and UCL).
I will specialise in public international law. Which has the stronger programme?
Finances are not an issue and I like New York and London equally.</blockquote>
I would choose NYU over LSE easily. An extra advantage is that you can probably do UN externships at NYU. The prestige is more as well.
For your specialty I would choose NYU over any of the UK law schools. They are just not worth it.
I will specialise in public international law. Which has the stronger programme?
Finances are not an issue and I like New York and London equally.</blockquote>
I would choose NYU over LSE easily. An extra advantage is that you can probably do UN externships at NYU. The prestige is more as well.
For your specialty I would choose NYU over any of the UK law schools. They are just not worth it.
Posted Mar 06, 2016 21:32
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abclaw, although I do not have any advice about the merits of LSE vs NYU I would make one recommendation - take anything that imnc says with a gallon of salt. If you have a look around these forums it will become immediately obvious to you that imnc is on a one man mission to convince anyone who will listen that Columbia, NYU and Harvard are literally the only law schools in the world worth going to and attending any other law school would be a waste of time, effort and money. You are of course free to take his/her advice, but I personally would not give much weight to the ramblings of someone who (apparently) is currently an LLM student at Columbia yet seems to spend most of their time trolling the llm.com forum.
abclaw, although I do not have any advice about the merits of LSE vs NYU I would make one recommendation - take anything that imnc says with a gallon of salt. If you have a look around these forums it will become immediately obvious to you that imnc is on a one man mission to convince anyone who will listen that Columbia, NYU and Harvard are literally the only law schools in the world worth going to and attending any other law school would be a waste of time, effort and money. You are of course free to take his/her advice, but I personally would not give much weight to the ramblings of someone who (apparently) is currently an LLM student at Columbia yet seems to spend most of their time trolling the llm.com forum.
Posted Mar 06, 2016 22:01
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Personally I see NYU and LSE as parallels and Columbia and UCL as such too.
NYU and LSE have lower general rankings as a university in whole but stronger law programmes. Columbia and UCL have higher general rankings (in QS especially) but less acclaimed law schools than the former although still highly prestigious.
If you want a comprehensive comparative study of public international law I would suggest coming to London. But the two have pretty similar prestige so it wouldn't make much of a difference.
Personally I see NYU and LSE as parallels and Columbia and UCL as such too.
NYU and LSE have lower general rankings as a university in whole but stronger law programmes. Columbia and UCL have higher general rankings (in QS especially) but less acclaimed law schools than the former although still highly prestigious.
If you want a comprehensive comparative study of public international law I would suggest coming to London. But the two have pretty similar prestige so it wouldn't make much of a difference.
NYU and LSE have lower general rankings as a university in whole but stronger law programmes. Columbia and UCL have higher general rankings (in QS especially) but less acclaimed law schools than the former although still highly prestigious.
If you want a comprehensive comparative study of public international law I would suggest coming to London. But the two have pretty similar prestige so it wouldn't make much of a difference.
Posted Mar 06, 2016 23:42
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My advice would be to take a look at the professors. Your field is very broad, so a useful way to narrow things down is to see if someone at the school is researching a topic similar to the one you intend to pursue. Sometimes it really is worth it to go to a specific place due to a particular person or center.
My advice would be to take a look at the professors. Your field is very broad, so a useful way to narrow things down is to see if someone at the school is researching a topic similar to the one you intend to pursue. Sometimes it really is worth it to go to a specific place due to a particular person or center.
Posted Mar 06, 2016 23:45
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abclaw, although I do not have any advice about the merits of LSE vs NYU I would make one recommendation - take anything that imnc says with a gallon of salt. If you have a look around these forums it will become immediately obvious to you that imnc is on a one man mission to convince anyone who will listen that Columbia, NYU and Harvard are literally the only law schools in the world worth going to and attending any other law school would be a waste of time, effort and money. You are of course free to take his/her advice, but I personally would not give much weight to the ramblings of someone who (apparently) is currently an LLM student at Columbia yet seems to spend most of their time trolling the llm.com forum.
Add Yale to that list.
scarecrow, you sniffed out and launched a pathetic personal attack on this thread and then accuse others of trolling?
Maybe it hurts you when you see students who aspire beyond UVA, UCL and Chicago. Or maybe you got rejected to the best law schools. Either way that's your problem.
So please come up something other than a personal attack when posting. Otherwise you will only continue to make a fool of yourself.
<blockquote>abclaw, although I do not have any advice about the merits of LSE vs NYU I would make one recommendation - take anything that imnc says with a gallon of salt. If you have a look around these forums it will become immediately obvious to you that imnc is on a one man mission to convince anyone who will listen that Columbia, NYU and Harvard are literally the only law schools in the world worth going to and attending any other law school would be a waste of time, effort and money. You are of course free to take his/her advice, but I personally would not give much weight to the ramblings of someone who (apparently) is currently an LLM student at Columbia yet seems to spend most of their time trolling the llm.com forum.</blockquote>
Add Yale to that list.
scarecrow, you sniffed out and launched a pathetic personal attack on this thread and then accuse others of trolling?
Maybe it hurts you when you see students who aspire beyond UVA, UCL and Chicago. Or maybe you got rejected to the best law schools. Either way that's your problem.
So please come up something other than a personal attack when posting. Otherwise you will only continue to make a fool of yourself.
Add Yale to that list.
scarecrow, you sniffed out and launched a pathetic personal attack on this thread and then accuse others of trolling?
Maybe it hurts you when you see students who aspire beyond UVA, UCL and Chicago. Or maybe you got rejected to the best law schools. Either way that's your problem.
So please come up something other than a personal attack when posting. Otherwise you will only continue to make a fool of yourself.
Posted Mar 07, 2016 02:40
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Posted Mar 07, 2016 02:42
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abclaw, although I do not have any advice about the merits of LSE vs NYU I would make one recommendation - take anything that imnc says with a gallon of salt. If you have a look around these forums it will become immediately obvious to you that imnc is on a one man mission to convince anyone who will listen that Columbia, NYU and Harvard are literally the only law schools in the world worth going to and attending any other law school would be a waste of time, effort and money. You are of course free to take his/her advice, but I personally would not give much weight to the ramblings of someone who (apparently) is currently an LLM student at Columbia yet seems to spend most of their time trolling the llm.com forum.
Add Yale to that list.
scarecrow, you sniffed out and launched a pathetic personal attack on this thread and then accuse others of trolling?
Maybe it hurts you when you see students who aspire beyond UVA, UCL and Chicago. Or maybe you got rejected to the best law schools. Either way that's your problem.
So please come up something other than a personal attack when posting. Otherwise you will only continue to make a fool of yourself.
Hahahahaah. Maybe you should spend less time trawling through people's comment histories trying to figure out what universities they have applied to and more time studying? Because one thing I know for sure is that you are not going to be able to build a career around that personality of yours.
Normally I would walk away, but you are such a sad little man that you've dragged me down to your level. Columbia is only ranked #10 in the world by QS (UCL is #11, Chicago is #12 and LSE is #7). Accordingly, although getting into Columbia is quite an achievement, it hardly gives you licence to run around acting like a big-headed prat. Instead, you are just one of many students who goes to a very university, but was not good enough to make it into the A-league (Oxbridge and Harvard). So stop kidding yourself, you're not that special. Good luck with the job hunt at the end of the year, I can tell that you will definitely need it (oh how I would love to be a fly on the wall in one of your job interviews).
I would recommend anyone choosing from a selection of the "second tier" universities to: first, congratulate yourself on your achievement, and secondly, choose according to personal preference rather than some sort of self-deluded notion that any of them truly is objectively better than the others. Otherwise you may just find yourself spending most of next year sitting in a dorm room in New York, tragically spitting venom on internet forums...
<blockquote><blockquote>abclaw, although I do not have any advice about the merits of LSE vs NYU I would make one recommendation - take anything that imnc says with a gallon of salt. If you have a look around these forums it will become immediately obvious to you that imnc is on a one man mission to convince anyone who will listen that Columbia, NYU and Harvard are literally the only law schools in the world worth going to and attending any other law school would be a waste of time, effort and money. You are of course free to take his/her advice, but I personally would not give much weight to the ramblings of someone who (apparently) is currently an LLM student at Columbia yet seems to spend most of their time trolling the llm.com forum.</blockquote>
Add Yale to that list.
scarecrow, you sniffed out and launched a pathetic personal attack on this thread and then accuse others of trolling?
Maybe it hurts you when you see students who aspire beyond UVA, UCL and Chicago. Or maybe you got rejected to the best law schools. Either way that's your problem.
So please come up something other than a personal attack when posting. Otherwise you will only continue to make a fool of yourself. </blockquote>
Hahahahaah. Maybe you should spend less time trawling through people's comment histories trying to figure out what universities they have applied to and more time studying? Because one thing I know for sure is that you are not going to be able to build a career around that personality of yours.
Normally I would walk away, but you are such a sad little man that you've dragged me down to your level. Columbia is only ranked #10 in the world by QS (UCL is #11, Chicago is #12 and LSE is #7). Accordingly, although getting into Columbia is quite an achievement, it hardly gives you licence to run around acting like a big-headed prat. Instead, you are just one of many students who goes to a very university, but was not good enough to make it into the A-league (Oxbridge and Harvard). So stop kidding yourself, you're not that special. Good luck with the job hunt at the end of the year, I can tell that you will definitely need it (oh how I would love to be a fly on the wall in one of your job interviews).
I would recommend anyone choosing from a selection of the "second tier" universities to: first, congratulate yourself on your achievement, and secondly, choose according to personal preference rather than some sort of self-deluded notion that any of them truly is objectively better than the others. Otherwise you may just find yourself spending most of next year sitting in a dorm room in New York, tragically spitting venom on internet forums...
Add Yale to that list.
scarecrow, you sniffed out and launched a pathetic personal attack on this thread and then accuse others of trolling?
Maybe it hurts you when you see students who aspire beyond UVA, UCL and Chicago. Or maybe you got rejected to the best law schools. Either way that's your problem.
So please come up something other than a personal attack when posting. Otherwise you will only continue to make a fool of yourself. </blockquote>
Hahahahaah. Maybe you should spend less time trawling through people's comment histories trying to figure out what universities they have applied to and more time studying? Because one thing I know for sure is that you are not going to be able to build a career around that personality of yours.
Normally I would walk away, but you are such a sad little man that you've dragged me down to your level. Columbia is only ranked #10 in the world by QS (UCL is #11, Chicago is #12 and LSE is #7). Accordingly, although getting into Columbia is quite an achievement, it hardly gives you licence to run around acting like a big-headed prat. Instead, you are just one of many students who goes to a very university, but was not good enough to make it into the A-league (Oxbridge and Harvard). So stop kidding yourself, you're not that special. Good luck with the job hunt at the end of the year, I can tell that you will definitely need it (oh how I would love to be a fly on the wall in one of your job interviews).
I would recommend anyone choosing from a selection of the "second tier" universities to: first, congratulate yourself on your achievement, and secondly, choose according to personal preference rather than some sort of self-deluded notion that any of them truly is objectively better than the others. Otherwise you may just find yourself spending most of next year sitting in a dorm room in New York, tragically spitting venom on internet forums...
Posted Mar 07, 2016 04:13
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Hahahahaah. Maybe you should spend less time trawling through people's comment histories trying to figure out what universities they have applied to and more time studying? Because one thing I know for sure is that you are not going to be able to build a career around that personality of yours.
Normally I would walk away, but you are such a sad little man that you've dragged me down to your level. Columbia is only ranked #10 in the world by QS (UCL is #11, Chicago is #12 and LSE is #7). Accordingly, although getting into Columbia is quite an achievement, it hardly gives you licence to run around acting like a big-headed prat. Instead, you are just one of many students who goes to a very university, but was not good enough to make it into the A-league (Oxbridge and Harvard). So stop kidding yourself, you're not that special. Good luck with the job hunt at the end of the year, I can tell that you will definitely need it (oh how I would love to be a fly on the wall in one of your job interviews).
I would recommend anyone choosing from a selection of the "second tier" universities to: first, congratulate yourself on your achievement
I see you do not dispute any of what I posted. So my estimate was correct. You seem to have an attraction for mediocre universities as your choice suggests.
Even your personal tirade is B-class. Rather than try to get a response on what I said or what I have stated as a fact (and a good lawyer can always do that), you make assumptions such as my career not being made or my being a 'man' or being in a 'dorm room'. For all you know I could be a mid-career woman who has a great apartment and a job to go back to so I can afford to spend hours online.
You even chose a bad post to attack me. On the subject of public international law, the US is commonly understood to be the best place to study and specially if you wish to make a career out of it. Going to the university of Leicester because Sir Malcolm teaches there would be a bad choice. NY is surrounded by international law, just as DC is surrounded by government. Adjunct faculty who practice international law, week long programs when the UN is in session, and externships at the UN or international organizations, this environment is hard to get at Oxford, leave aside LSE which is far from a desirable place to study law unless options are severely limited. Finally most British law schools have no money to hand out as aid.
Feel free to see my older posts. As I've said before I had offers from Harvard, Chicago, Columbia, NYU. Oxford too, though I would not call it A league. had it not been for the very generous financial aid I received at CLS it would have been Harvard with a steep debt burden for me. Unlike you I've almost finished the LLM so I know what I am talking about.
But don't let me stop you from making a fool of yourself again.
<blockquote>Hahahahaah. Maybe you should spend less time trawling through people's comment histories trying to figure out what universities they have applied to and more time studying? Because one thing I know for sure is that you are not going to be able to build a career around that personality of yours.
Normally I would walk away, but you are such a sad little man that you've dragged me down to your level. Columbia is only ranked #10 in the world by QS (UCL is #11, Chicago is #12 and LSE is #7). Accordingly, although getting into Columbia is quite an achievement, it hardly gives you licence to run around acting like a big-headed prat. Instead, you are just one of many students who goes to a very university, but was not good enough to make it into the A-league (Oxbridge and Harvard). So stop kidding yourself, you're not that special. Good luck with the job hunt at the end of the year, I can tell that you will definitely need it (oh how I would love to be a fly on the wall in one of your job interviews).
I would recommend anyone choosing from a selection of the "second tier" universities to: first, congratulate yourself on your achievement</blockquote>
I see you do not dispute any of what I posted. So my estimate was correct. You seem to have an attraction for mediocre universities as your choice suggests.
Even your personal tirade is B-class. Rather than try to get a response on what I said or what I have stated as a fact (and a good lawyer can always do that), you make assumptions such as my career not being made or my being a 'man' or being in a 'dorm room'. For all you know I could be a mid-career woman who has a great apartment and a job to go back to so I can afford to spend hours online.
You even chose a bad post to attack me. On the subject of public international law, the US is commonly understood to be the best place to study and specially if you wish to make a career out of it. Going to the university of Leicester because Sir Malcolm teaches there would be a bad choice. NY is surrounded by international law, just as DC is surrounded by government. Adjunct faculty who practice international law, week long programs when the UN is in session, and externships at the UN or international organizations, this environment is hard to get at Oxford, leave aside LSE which is far from a desirable place to study law unless options are severely limited. Finally most British law schools have no money to hand out as aid.
Feel free to see my older posts. As I've said before I had offers from Harvard, Chicago, Columbia, NYU. Oxford too, though I would not call it A league. had it not been for the very generous financial aid I received at CLS it would have been Harvard with a steep debt burden for me. Unlike you I've almost finished the LLM so I know what I am talking about.
But don't let me stop you from making a fool of yourself again.
Normally I would walk away, but you are such a sad little man that you've dragged me down to your level. Columbia is only ranked #10 in the world by QS (UCL is #11, Chicago is #12 and LSE is #7). Accordingly, although getting into Columbia is quite an achievement, it hardly gives you licence to run around acting like a big-headed prat. Instead, you are just one of many students who goes to a very university, but was not good enough to make it into the A-league (Oxbridge and Harvard). So stop kidding yourself, you're not that special. Good luck with the job hunt at the end of the year, I can tell that you will definitely need it (oh how I would love to be a fly on the wall in one of your job interviews).
I would recommend anyone choosing from a selection of the "second tier" universities to: first, congratulate yourself on your achievement</blockquote>
I see you do not dispute any of what I posted. So my estimate was correct. You seem to have an attraction for mediocre universities as your choice suggests.
Even your personal tirade is B-class. Rather than try to get a response on what I said or what I have stated as a fact (and a good lawyer can always do that), you make assumptions such as my career not being made or my being a 'man' or being in a 'dorm room'. For all you know I could be a mid-career woman who has a great apartment and a job to go back to so I can afford to spend hours online.
You even chose a bad post to attack me. On the subject of public international law, the US is commonly understood to be the best place to study and specially if you wish to make a career out of it. Going to the university of Leicester because Sir Malcolm teaches there would be a bad choice. NY is surrounded by international law, just as DC is surrounded by government. Adjunct faculty who practice international law, week long programs when the UN is in session, and externships at the UN or international organizations, this environment is hard to get at Oxford, leave aside LSE which is far from a desirable place to study law unless options are severely limited. Finally most British law schools have no money to hand out as aid.
Feel free to see my older posts. As I've said before I had offers from Harvard, Chicago, Columbia, NYU. Oxford too, though I would not call it A league. had it not been for the very generous financial aid I received at CLS it would have been Harvard with a steep debt burden for me. Unlike you I've almost finished the LLM so I know what I am talking about.
But don't let me stop you from making a fool of yourself again.
Posted Mar 07, 2016 04:38
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Hahahahaah. Maybe you should spend less time trawling through people's comment histories trying to figure out what universities they have applied to and more time studying? Because one thing I know for sure is that you are not going to be able to build a career around that personality of yours.
Normally I would walk away, but you are such a sad little man that you've dragged me down to your level. Columbia is only ranked #10 in the world by QS (UCL is #11, Chicago is #12 and LSE is #7). Accordingly, although getting into Columbia is quite an achievement, it hardly gives you licence to run around acting like a big-headed prat. Instead, you are just one of many students who goes to a very university, but was not good enough to make it into the A-league (Oxbridge and Harvard). So stop kidding yourself, you're not that special. Good luck with the job hunt at the end of the year, I can tell that you will definitely need it (oh how I would love to be a fly on the wall in one of your job interviews).
I would recommend anyone choosing from a selection of the "second tier" universities to: first, congratulate yourself on your achievement
I see you do not dispute any of what I posted. So my estimate was correct. You seem to have an attraction for mediocre universities as your choice suggests.
Even your personal tirade is B-class. Rather than try to get a response on what I said or what I have stated as a fact (and a good lawyer can always do that), you make assumptions such as my career not being made or my being a 'man' or being in a 'dorm room'. For all you know I could be a mid-career woman who has a great apartment and a job to go back to so I can afford to spend hours online.
You even chose a bad post to attack me. On the subject of public international law, the US is commonly understood to be the best place to study and specially if you wish to make a career out of it. Going to the university of Leicester because Sir Malcolm teaches there would be a bad choice. NY is surrounded by international law, just as DC is surrounded by government. Adjunct faculty who practice international law, week long programs when the UN is in session, and externships at the UN or international organizations, this environment is hard to get at Oxford, leave aside LSE which is far from a desirable place to study law unless options are severely limited. Finally most British law schools have no money to hand out as aid.
Feel free to see my older posts. As I've said before I had offers from Harvard, Chicago, Columbia, NYU. Oxford too, though I would not call it A league. had it not been for the very generous financial aid I received at CLS it would have been Harvard with a steep debt burden for me. Unlike you I've almost finished the LLM so I know what I am talking about.
But don't let me stop you from making a fool of yourself again.
None of your statements are "facts" - you just made blunt assertions that you "verify" by referring to "several people I have spoken to". Just look at the example above: "On the subject of public international law, the US is commonly understood to be the best place to study." Says who? You? Your mother? You don't provide anything to substantiate your claims so why should anyone believe them? The only argument you have put forward is that the NY colleges are better because they are "surrounded by international law". So why is it that the best universities for constitutional law aren't all located in Washington DC? Do you really think that walking around UN headquarters with a lanyard around your neck is really going to be an enriching experience? What crappy, crappy, logic.
You don't have a "great apartment" or a "great job". If you did, you would not have needed (or most likely received) the "very generous financial aid" that you claim that Columbia offered you. Assuming that anything you have said is true I would hazard a guess that you have one, at most two, years' work experience. I have based this on the absolute garbage you have spewed regarding the extent to which specific LLMs advance an individual's career prospects. A senior lawyer would know that an LLM barely advances an individual's career prospects at all in the short term (compared with spending the time gaining actual law experience at a decent law firm) and that in the long term you see a pretty even spread of people with degrees from top 20-30 universities occupying senior positions in top firms. You're completely and utterly kidding yourself if you think the word "Columbia" is going to compensate for all your shortcomings.
British schools have no money to hand out as aid? Assuming for argument's sake that your claim is correct (it's not) that is offset by the fact that their fees are significantly cheaper than in the US. Anyone who has spent a few years working a half decent law job in a first world country could save up enough to cover UK fees and living expenses.
Finally, I completely and utterly do not believe that you received the offers you claim. Feel free to prove otherwise, but you sound like a mere troll, and a poor one at that. If I am wrong on this point, then all I can say is that you would serve as the ultimate smoking gun supporting any argument that university admissions departments are not infallible when it comes to identifying talent.
This will be the last time I post on this thread. You will not hear from me again unless it is to warn participants in other threads that they should think very carefully before taking on board anything you say.
<blockquote><blockquote>Hahahahaah. Maybe you should spend less time trawling through people's comment histories trying to figure out what universities they have applied to and more time studying? Because one thing I know for sure is that you are not going to be able to build a career around that personality of yours.
Normally I would walk away, but you are such a sad little man that you've dragged me down to your level. Columbia is only ranked #10 in the world by QS (UCL is #11, Chicago is #12 and LSE is #7). Accordingly, although getting into Columbia is quite an achievement, it hardly gives you licence to run around acting like a big-headed prat. Instead, you are just one of many students who goes to a very university, but was not good enough to make it into the A-league (Oxbridge and Harvard). So stop kidding yourself, you're not that special. Good luck with the job hunt at the end of the year, I can tell that you will definitely need it (oh how I would love to be a fly on the wall in one of your job interviews).
I would recommend anyone choosing from a selection of the "second tier" universities to: first, congratulate yourself on your achievement</blockquote>
I see you do not dispute any of what I posted. So my estimate was correct. You seem to have an attraction for mediocre universities as your choice suggests.
Even your personal tirade is B-class. Rather than try to get a response on what I said or what I have stated as a fact (and a good lawyer can always do that), you make assumptions such as my career not being made or my being a 'man' or being in a 'dorm room'. For all you know I could be a mid-career woman who has a great apartment and a job to go back to so I can afford to spend hours online.
You even chose a bad post to attack me. On the subject of public international law, the US is commonly understood to be the best place to study and specially if you wish to make a career out of it. Going to the university of Leicester because Sir Malcolm teaches there would be a bad choice. NY is surrounded by international law, just as DC is surrounded by government. Adjunct faculty who practice international law, week long programs when the UN is in session, and externships at the UN or international organizations, this environment is hard to get at Oxford, leave aside LSE which is far from a desirable place to study law unless options are severely limited. Finally most British law schools have no money to hand out as aid.
Feel free to see my older posts. As I've said before I had offers from Harvard, Chicago, Columbia, NYU. Oxford too, though I would not call it A league. had it not been for the very generous financial aid I received at CLS it would have been Harvard with a steep debt burden for me. Unlike you I've almost finished the LLM so I know what I am talking about.
But don't let me stop you from making a fool of yourself again. </blockquote>
None of your statements are "facts" - you just made blunt assertions that you "verify" by referring to "several people I have spoken to". Just look at the example above: "On the subject of public international law, the US is commonly understood to be the best place to study." Says who? You? Your mother? You don't provide anything to substantiate your claims so why should anyone believe them? The only argument you have put forward is that the NY colleges are better because they are "surrounded by international law". So why is it that the best universities for constitutional law aren't all located in Washington DC? Do you really think that walking around UN headquarters with a lanyard around your neck is really going to be an enriching experience? What crappy, crappy, logic.
You don't have a "great apartment" or a "great job". If you did, you would not have needed (or most likely received) the "very generous financial aid" that you claim that Columbia offered you. Assuming that anything you have said is true I would hazard a guess that you have one, at most two, years' work experience. I have based this on the absolute garbage you have spewed regarding the extent to which specific LLMs advance an individual's career prospects. A senior lawyer would know that an LLM barely advances an individual's career prospects at all in the short term (compared with spending the time gaining actual law experience at a decent law firm) and that in the long term you see a pretty even spread of people with degrees from top 20-30 universities occupying senior positions in top firms. You're completely and utterly kidding yourself if you think the word "Columbia" is going to compensate for all your shortcomings.
British schools have no money to hand out as aid? Assuming for argument's sake that your claim is correct (it's not) that is offset by the fact that their fees are significantly cheaper than in the US. Anyone who has spent a few years working a half decent law job in a first world country could save up enough to cover UK fees and living expenses.
Finally, I completely and utterly do not believe that you received the offers you claim. Feel free to prove otherwise, but you sound like a mere troll, and a poor one at that. If I am wrong on this point, then all I can say is that you would serve as the ultimate smoking gun supporting any argument that university admissions departments are not infallible when it comes to identifying talent.
This will be the last time I post on this thread. You will not hear from me again unless it is to warn participants in other threads that they should think very carefully before taking on board anything you say.
Normally I would walk away, but you are such a sad little man that you've dragged me down to your level. Columbia is only ranked #10 in the world by QS (UCL is #11, Chicago is #12 and LSE is #7). Accordingly, although getting into Columbia is quite an achievement, it hardly gives you licence to run around acting like a big-headed prat. Instead, you are just one of many students who goes to a very university, but was not good enough to make it into the A-league (Oxbridge and Harvard). So stop kidding yourself, you're not that special. Good luck with the job hunt at the end of the year, I can tell that you will definitely need it (oh how I would love to be a fly on the wall in one of your job interviews).
I would recommend anyone choosing from a selection of the "second tier" universities to: first, congratulate yourself on your achievement</blockquote>
I see you do not dispute any of what I posted. So my estimate was correct. You seem to have an attraction for mediocre universities as your choice suggests.
Even your personal tirade is B-class. Rather than try to get a response on what I said or what I have stated as a fact (and a good lawyer can always do that), you make assumptions such as my career not being made or my being a 'man' or being in a 'dorm room'. For all you know I could be a mid-career woman who has a great apartment and a job to go back to so I can afford to spend hours online.
You even chose a bad post to attack me. On the subject of public international law, the US is commonly understood to be the best place to study and specially if you wish to make a career out of it. Going to the university of Leicester because Sir Malcolm teaches there would be a bad choice. NY is surrounded by international law, just as DC is surrounded by government. Adjunct faculty who practice international law, week long programs when the UN is in session, and externships at the UN or international organizations, this environment is hard to get at Oxford, leave aside LSE which is far from a desirable place to study law unless options are severely limited. Finally most British law schools have no money to hand out as aid.
Feel free to see my older posts. As I've said before I had offers from Harvard, Chicago, Columbia, NYU. Oxford too, though I would not call it A league. had it not been for the very generous financial aid I received at CLS it would have been Harvard with a steep debt burden for me. Unlike you I've almost finished the LLM so I know what I am talking about.
But don't let me stop you from making a fool of yourself again. </blockquote>
None of your statements are "facts" - you just made blunt assertions that you "verify" by referring to "several people I have spoken to". Just look at the example above: "On the subject of public international law, the US is commonly understood to be the best place to study." Says who? You? Your mother? You don't provide anything to substantiate your claims so why should anyone believe them? The only argument you have put forward is that the NY colleges are better because they are "surrounded by international law". So why is it that the best universities for constitutional law aren't all located in Washington DC? Do you really think that walking around UN headquarters with a lanyard around your neck is really going to be an enriching experience? What crappy, crappy, logic.
You don't have a "great apartment" or a "great job". If you did, you would not have needed (or most likely received) the "very generous financial aid" that you claim that Columbia offered you. Assuming that anything you have said is true I would hazard a guess that you have one, at most two, years' work experience. I have based this on the absolute garbage you have spewed regarding the extent to which specific LLMs advance an individual's career prospects. A senior lawyer would know that an LLM barely advances an individual's career prospects at all in the short term (compared with spending the time gaining actual law experience at a decent law firm) and that in the long term you see a pretty even spread of people with degrees from top 20-30 universities occupying senior positions in top firms. You're completely and utterly kidding yourself if you think the word "Columbia" is going to compensate for all your shortcomings.
British schools have no money to hand out as aid? Assuming for argument's sake that your claim is correct (it's not) that is offset by the fact that their fees are significantly cheaper than in the US. Anyone who has spent a few years working a half decent law job in a first world country could save up enough to cover UK fees and living expenses.
Finally, I completely and utterly do not believe that you received the offers you claim. Feel free to prove otherwise, but you sound like a mere troll, and a poor one at that. If I am wrong on this point, then all I can say is that you would serve as the ultimate smoking gun supporting any argument that university admissions departments are not infallible when it comes to identifying talent.
This will be the last time I post on this thread. You will not hear from me again unless it is to warn participants in other threads that they should think very carefully before taking on board anything you say.
Posted Mar 07, 2016 06:32
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This will be the last time I post on this thread. You will not hear from me again unless it is to warn participants in other threads that they should think very carefully before taking on board anything you say.
Your knowledge of LLMs is no better than a scarecrow, maybe that's why you keep that name.
The difference between us is that you know very little about this world, and judging from your destinations choices do not aspire to add much to that little. I, on the other hand, have some idea of what the law school market is about if only for the reason that I'm in it and soon to complete my diploma. As such I am prepared to forgive your ignorance but not your stupidity.
Since you asked that question about international law, my answer is the mass of recently graduated and graduating lawyers practising in that field. Nearly all acknowledge NY is the best place for that, all else being equal. And yes, it does matter for career advancement that the UN is here. It makes a lot of difference and I am sorry you have a personal vendetta against New York (Maybe you will like Charlottesville better).
I see you continue to personally attack me but as before your logical reasoning is pathetic. Only a fool would throw away a massive subsidy and within my field of expertise (M&A) I was ok with the lesser prestige of columbia compared to harvard which would have been monetarily a big problem for me as my savings are not much after supporting my child here in the US.
I also see you repeating your belief that an LLM does not advance careers. That's a bad generalization and may be true for a few careers but for lots of non US-citizens lacking JD credentials it at least qualifies you for employment at the NY and London firms. For younger lawyers in international law or arbitration an LLM is very helpful and a pre-requisite to work at any international agency. For academics an LLM is important in continuing research. Plenty of others who have stable jobs also use the LLM as a gap from their worklife, especially if they have a young child.
The difference between us is well apparent at your painstaking effort to cyberstalk me and continue a personal tirade. My advice to you is this: Since you know nothing and have little to contribute, you will learn most by curbing such immature behaviour. Otherwise if you have genuine and well thought out criticism please post that. All you have done is demonstrate mediocrity of character and fittingly enough you aspire to mediocre law schools with what is likely a mediocre academic background (correct me if I am wrong on this). Nonetheless I wish you well in your zeal to get into UVA, may you find peace there.
<blockquote>This will be the last time I post on this thread. You will not hear from me again unless it is to warn participants in other threads that they should think very carefully before taking on board anything you say.</blockquote>
Your knowledge of LLMs is no better than a scarecrow, maybe that's why you keep that name.
The difference between us is that you know very little about this world, and judging from your destinations choices do not aspire to add much to that little. I, on the other hand, have some idea of what the law school market is about if only for the reason that I'm in it and soon to complete my diploma. As such I am prepared to forgive your ignorance but not your stupidity.
Since you asked that question about international law, my answer is the mass of recently graduated and graduating lawyers practising in that field. Nearly all acknowledge NY is the best place for that, all else being equal. And yes, it does matter for career advancement that the UN is here. It makes a lot of difference and I am sorry you have a personal vendetta against New York (Maybe you will like Charlottesville better).
I see you continue to personally attack me but as before your logical reasoning is pathetic. Only a fool would throw away a massive subsidy and within my field of expertise (M&A) I was ok with the lesser prestige of columbia compared to harvard which would have been monetarily a big problem for me as my savings are not much after supporting my child here in the US.
I also see you repeating your belief that an LLM does not advance careers. That's a bad generalization and may be true for a few careers but for lots of non US-citizens lacking JD credentials it at least qualifies you for employment at the NY and London firms. For younger lawyers in international law or arbitration an LLM is very helpful and a pre-requisite to work at any international agency. For academics an LLM is important in continuing research. Plenty of others who have stable jobs also use the LLM as a gap from their worklife, especially if they have a young child.
The difference between us is well apparent at your painstaking effort to cyberstalk me and continue a personal tirade. My advice to you is this: Since you know nothing and have little to contribute, you will learn most by curbing such immature behaviour. Otherwise if you have genuine and well thought out criticism please post that. All you have done is demonstrate mediocrity of character and fittingly enough you aspire to mediocre law schools with what is likely a mediocre academic background (correct me if I am wrong on this). Nonetheless I wish you well in your zeal to get into UVA, may you find peace there.
Your knowledge of LLMs is no better than a scarecrow, maybe that's why you keep that name.
The difference between us is that you know very little about this world, and judging from your destinations choices do not aspire to add much to that little. I, on the other hand, have some idea of what the law school market is about if only for the reason that I'm in it and soon to complete my diploma. As such I am prepared to forgive your ignorance but not your stupidity.
Since you asked that question about international law, my answer is the mass of recently graduated and graduating lawyers practising in that field. Nearly all acknowledge NY is the best place for that, all else being equal. And yes, it does matter for career advancement that the UN is here. It makes a lot of difference and I am sorry you have a personal vendetta against New York (Maybe you will like Charlottesville better).
I see you continue to personally attack me but as before your logical reasoning is pathetic. Only a fool would throw away a massive subsidy and within my field of expertise (M&A) I was ok with the lesser prestige of columbia compared to harvard which would have been monetarily a big problem for me as my savings are not much after supporting my child here in the US.
I also see you repeating your belief that an LLM does not advance careers. That's a bad generalization and may be true for a few careers but for lots of non US-citizens lacking JD credentials it at least qualifies you for employment at the NY and London firms. For younger lawyers in international law or arbitration an LLM is very helpful and a pre-requisite to work at any international agency. For academics an LLM is important in continuing research. Plenty of others who have stable jobs also use the LLM as a gap from their worklife, especially if they have a young child.
The difference between us is well apparent at your painstaking effort to cyberstalk me and continue a personal tirade. My advice to you is this: Since you know nothing and have little to contribute, you will learn most by curbing such immature behaviour. Otherwise if you have genuine and well thought out criticism please post that. All you have done is demonstrate mediocrity of character and fittingly enough you aspire to mediocre law schools with what is likely a mediocre academic background (correct me if I am wrong on this). Nonetheless I wish you well in your zeal to get into UVA, may you find peace there.
Posted Mar 07, 2016 09:08
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This will be the last time I post on this thread. You will not hear from me again unless it is to warn participants in other threads that they should think very carefully before taking on board anything you say.
I see you continue to personally attack me but as before your logical reasoning is pathetic. Only a fool would throw away a massive subsidy and within my field of expertise (M&A) I was ok with the lesser prestige of columbia compared to harvard which would have been monetarily a big problem for me as my savings are not much after supporting my child here in the US
Okay, look I am going to have to apologise. I am sorry. I am sorry because I have lied. I said that I had made my final post, but then I saw that you are an M&A lawyer who thinks that an LLM will improve their career. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... Holy shit! I can only imagine your next job interview "So imnc tell us about your recent M&A transaction experience." "Uhhhh well, I've actually spent the last year staying up until 2:00am trolling llm-guide.com forums. I do have an LLM from a university that barely scrapes into the world top 10 though..." AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH EVERYONE knows that M&A is one of the last areas where an LLM is going to be a benefit over a year's work experience.
And you have a kid?! Like you have reproduced, and are now raising an actual human being? Poor little tyke!
Good. Bye!
<blockquote><blockquote>This will be the last time I post on this thread. You will not hear from me again unless it is to warn participants in other threads that they should think very carefully before taking on board anything you say.</blockquote>
I see you continue to personally attack me but as before your logical reasoning is pathetic. Only a fool would throw away a massive subsidy and within my field of expertise (M&A) I was ok with the lesser prestige of columbia compared to harvard which would have been monetarily a big problem for me as my savings are not much after supporting my child here in the US</blockquote>
Okay, look I am going to have to apologise. I am sorry. I am sorry because I have lied. I said that I had made my final post, but then I saw that you are an M&A lawyer who thinks that an LLM will improve their career. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... Holy shit! I can only imagine your next job interview "So imnc tell us about your recent M&A transaction experience." "Uhhhh well, I've actually spent the last year staying up until 2:00am trolling llm-guide.com forums. I do have an LLM from a university that barely scrapes into the world top 10 though..." AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH EVERYONE knows that M&A is one of the last areas where an LLM is going to be a benefit over a year's work experience.
And you have a kid?! Like you have reproduced, and are now raising an actual human being? Poor little tyke!
Good. Bye!
I see you continue to personally attack me but as before your logical reasoning is pathetic. Only a fool would throw away a massive subsidy and within my field of expertise (M&A) I was ok with the lesser prestige of columbia compared to harvard which would have been monetarily a big problem for me as my savings are not much after supporting my child here in the US</blockquote>
Okay, look I am going to have to apologise. I am sorry. I am sorry because I have lied. I said that I had made my final post, but then I saw that you are an M&A lawyer who thinks that an LLM will improve their career. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... Holy shit! I can only imagine your next job interview "So imnc tell us about your recent M&A transaction experience." "Uhhhh well, I've actually spent the last year staying up until 2:00am trolling llm-guide.com forums. I do have an LLM from a university that barely scrapes into the world top 10 though..." AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH EVERYONE knows that M&A is one of the last areas where an LLM is going to be a benefit over a year's work experience.
And you have a kid?! Like you have reproduced, and are now raising an actual human being? Poor little tyke!
Good. Bye!
Posted Mar 08, 2016 02:44
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Okay, look I am going to have to apologise. I am sorry. I am sorry because I have lied. I said that I had made my final post, but then I saw that you are an M&A lawyer who thinks that an LLM will improve their career. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... Holy shit! I can only imagine your next job interview "So imnc tell us about your recent M&A transaction experience." "Uhhhh well, I've actually spent the last year staying up until 2:00am trolling llm-guide.com forums. I do have an LLM from a university that barely scrapes into the world top 10 though..." AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH EVERYONE knows that M&A is one of the last areas where an LLM is going to be a benefit over a year's work experience.
And you have a kid?! Like you have reproduced, and are now raising an actual human being? Poor little tyke!
Good. Bye!
Wow, that's quite a rage rant. You clearly need professional help.
But thanks for pretty much proving what I posted before. Now I'm starting to wonder whether you deserve an offer even from UVA.
Would you mind sharing your nationality? This will make for a hilarious joke after class tomorrow. :)
<blockquote>Okay, look I am going to have to apologise. I am sorry. I am sorry because I have lied. I said that I had made my final post, but then I saw that you are an M&A lawyer who thinks that an LLM will improve their career. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... Holy shit! I can only imagine your next job interview "So imnc tell us about your recent M&A transaction experience." "Uhhhh well, I've actually spent the last year staying up until 2:00am trolling llm-guide.com forums. I do have an LLM from a university that barely scrapes into the world top 10 though..." AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH EVERYONE knows that M&A is one of the last areas where an LLM is going to be a benefit over a year's work experience.
And you have a kid?! Like you have reproduced, and are now raising an actual human being? Poor little tyke!
Good. Bye!</blockquote>
Wow, that's quite a rage rant. You clearly need professional help.
But thanks for pretty much proving what I posted before. Now I'm starting to wonder whether you deserve an offer even from UVA.
Would you mind sharing your nationality? This will make for a hilarious joke after class tomorrow. :)
And you have a kid?! Like you have reproduced, and are now raising an actual human being? Poor little tyke!
Good. Bye!</blockquote>
Wow, that's quite a rage rant. You clearly need professional help.
But thanks for pretty much proving what I posted before. Now I'm starting to wonder whether you deserve an offer even from UVA.
Would you mind sharing your nationality? This will make for a hilarious joke after class tomorrow. :)
Posted Mar 08, 2016 03:44
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Would you mind sharing your nationality? This will make for a hilarious joke after class tomorrow. :)
You are a racist as well? Wow...
<blockquote>Would you mind sharing your nationality? This will make for a hilarious joke after class tomorrow. :)</blockquote>
You are a racist as well? Wow...
You are a racist as well? Wow...
Posted Mar 08, 2016 05:40
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Would you mind sharing your nationality? This will make for a hilarious joke after class tomorrow. :)
You are a racist as well? Wow...
I'm curious to know what kind of country such foolish and immature posting could possibly come from.
Are you ashamed of stating it? I can understand if you are.
<blockquote><blockquote>Would you mind sharing your nationality? This will make for a hilarious joke after class tomorrow. :)</blockquote>
You are a racist as well? Wow...</blockquote>
I'm curious to know what kind of country such foolish and immature posting could possibly come from.
Are you ashamed of stating it? I can understand if you are.
You are a racist as well? Wow...</blockquote>
I'm curious to know what kind of country such foolish and immature posting could possibly come from.
Are you ashamed of stating it? I can understand if you are.
Posted Mar 08, 2016 05:52
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... Holy shit! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH EVERYONE knows that M&A is one of the last areas where an LLM is going to be a benefit over a year's work experience.
And you have a kid?! Like you have reproduced, and are now raising an actual human being? Poor little tyke!
@scarecrow
Hey, can you get the hell out of this forum, buddy? This is such a toxic, obnoxious post. You are still applying to LL.M. programs and from the rubbish you post seem to have little information about why people pursue LL.M.s
Actually corporate lawyers (including M&A) get a lot out of their time at the ivies + Stanford/UC/Michigan. Many folks at my LLM class from HLS who were in corporate transactions have gone on to get lucrative offers at the magic circle and white shoe firms so your assertions that an LLM does nothing is nonsense.
You should be grateful current LL.M. students are actually posting on these boards instead of acting like a jackass.
<blockquote>AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... Holy shit! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH EVERYONE knows that M&A is one of the last areas where an LLM is going to be a benefit over a year's work experience.
And you have a kid?! Like you have reproduced, and are now raising an actual human being? Poor little tyke!</blockquote>
@scarecrow
Hey, can you get the hell out of this forum, buddy? This is such a toxic, obnoxious post. You are still applying to LL.M. programs and from the rubbish you post seem to have little information about why people pursue LL.M.s
Actually corporate lawyers (including M&A) get a lot out of their time at the ivies + Stanford/UC/Michigan. Many folks at my LLM class from HLS who were in corporate transactions have gone on to get lucrative offers at the magic circle and white shoe firms so your assertions that an LLM does nothing is nonsense.
You should be grateful current LL.M. students are actually posting on these boards instead of acting like a jackass.
And you have a kid?! Like you have reproduced, and are now raising an actual human being? Poor little tyke!</blockquote>
@scarecrow
Hey, can you get the hell out of this forum, buddy? This is such a toxic, obnoxious post. You are still applying to LL.M. programs and from the rubbish you post seem to have little information about why people pursue LL.M.s
Actually corporate lawyers (including M&A) get a lot out of their time at the ivies + Stanford/UC/Michigan. Many folks at my LLM class from HLS who were in corporate transactions have gone on to get lucrative offers at the magic circle and white shoe firms so your assertions that an LLM does nothing is nonsense.
You should be grateful current LL.M. students are actually posting on these boards instead of acting like a jackass.
Posted Mar 08, 2016 10:56
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Well that escalated quickly...
I just wanted to know people's thoughts on the PIL programmes at NYU and LSE.
Well that escalated quickly...
I just wanted to know people's thoughts on the PIL programmes at NYU and LSE.
I just wanted to know people's thoughts on the PIL programmes at NYU and LSE.
Posted Mar 08, 2016 13:55
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Well that escalated quickly...
I just wanted to know people's thoughts on the PIL programmes at NYU and LSE.
I'd go for NYU, honestly.
In the first place because of the fact that it is NYC. An internship at the UN opens doors and may be that last step you needed to really launch your carreer.
Secondly, and, assuming you're a Union citizen, I recommend spending a year on the other side of the ocean (life's more than just text books and codes, right?).
Good luck with your choice. I think there isn't really a bad choice to make. Please keep us updated :)
<blockquote>Well that escalated quickly...
I just wanted to know people's thoughts on the PIL programmes at NYU and LSE. </blockquote>
I'd go for NYU, honestly.
In the first place because of the fact that it is NYC. An internship at the UN opens doors and may be that last step you needed to really launch your carreer.
Secondly, and, assuming you're a Union citizen, I recommend spending a year on the other side of the ocean (life's more than just text books and codes, right?).
Good luck with your choice. I think there isn't really a bad choice to make. Please keep us updated :)
I just wanted to know people's thoughts on the PIL programmes at NYU and LSE. </blockquote>
I'd go for NYU, honestly.
In the first place because of the fact that it is NYC. An internship at the UN opens doors and may be that last step you needed to really launch your carreer.
Secondly, and, assuming you're a Union citizen, I recommend spending a year on the other side of the ocean (life's more than just text books and codes, right?).
Good luck with your choice. I think there isn't really a bad choice to make. Please keep us updated :)
Posted Mar 09, 2016 20:40
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Thanks for your thoughts. I am leaning towards NYU.
The reason I hesitate is because LSE has (in the past) had some incredible academics - Higgins and Greenwood were both professors at LSE. It makes me think maybe LSE will carry greater weight if I apply for a job in the Hague in the future.
Thanks for your thoughts. I am leaning towards NYU.
The reason I hesitate is because LSE has (in the past) had some incredible academics - Higgins and Greenwood were both professors at LSE. It makes me think maybe LSE will carry greater weight if I apply for a job in the Hague in the future.
The reason I hesitate is because LSE has (in the past) had some incredible academics - Higgins and Greenwood were both professors at LSE. It makes me think maybe LSE will carry greater weight if I apply for a job in the Hague in the future.
Posted Mar 09, 2016 23:39
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Hi,
Congrats on all your offers! They're all incredible schools.
I've also applied to both UCL and NYU and want to specialise in public international law. I haven't heard back from either yet but do you mind me asking which specialisation you chose for NYU?
Also how long did it take for UCL to get back to you after both your recommendations were sent?
Good luck in making your decision!
Hi,
Congrats on all your offers! They're all incredible schools.
I've also applied to both UCL and NYU and want to specialise in public international law. I haven't heard back from either yet but do you mind me asking which specialisation you chose for NYU?
Also how long did it take for UCL to get back to you after both your recommendations were sent?
Good luck in making your decision!
Congrats on all your offers! They're all incredible schools.
I've also applied to both UCL and NYU and want to specialise in public international law. I haven't heard back from either yet but do you mind me asking which specialisation you chose for NYU?
Also how long did it take for UCL to get back to you after both your recommendations were sent?
Good luck in making your decision!
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