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Hey you guys. Just wanted to check what are your thoughts about Nottingham (LLM in International Commercial Law). Is it good ranked? How about the program itself and the city? And how about careed options. I am also considering attending Utrecht or Tilburg (Netherlands) and would like to know how does Nottingham compare to them.

Hey you guys. Just wanted to check what are your thoughts about Nottingham (LLM in International Commercial Law). Is it good ranked? How about the program itself and the city? And how about careed options. I am also considering attending Utrecht or Tilburg (Netherlands) and would like to know how does Nottingham compare to them.
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c-j-h

nottingham is a highly regarded university here in the UK.

no idea about that course though.

nottingham is a highly regarded university here in the UK.

no idea about that course though.
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Good to know!! Thanks a lot!!! But just a question: I am talking about THE UNIVERSITY OF NOTTINGHAM (www.nottingham.ac.uk)... I believe that there is also another law school that is called NOTTINGHAM LAW SCHOOL (Trent University - http://www.ntu.ac.uk/nls/). Which one of them were you referring to? Or would both of them be highly regarded in the UK?

Good to know!! Thanks a lot!!! But just a question: I am talking about THE UNIVERSITY OF NOTTINGHAM (www.nottingham.ac.uk)... I believe that there is also another law school that is called NOTTINGHAM LAW SCHOOL (Trent University - http://www.ntu.ac.uk/nls/). Which one of them were you referring to? Or would both of them be highly regarded in the UK?
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c-j-h

University of Nottingham = old, well established Russell Group Uni.

Nottingham Trent = ex-poly. rubbish.

University of Nottingham = old, well established Russell Group Uni.

Nottingham Trent = ex-poly. rubbish.
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Excelent!!! How about the city? I have heard some saying that it is in the middle of "nowhere" and that there are not lots of things to do. Do you happen to know anything about the location and the studen life over there? Thanks again for all your help!!

Excelent!!! How about the city? I have heard some saying that it is in the middle of "nowhere" and that there are not lots of things to do. Do you happen to know anything about the location and the studen life over there? Thanks again for all your help!!
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Richie_85

University of Nottingham = old, well established Russell Group Uni.

Nottingham Trent = ex-poly. rubbish.


If you consider the number of Freshfields lawyers who have graduated with an LLM from Nottingham Law School/Nottingham Trent University (http://www.llm-guide.com/board/56806), I ask myself why all of these lawyers from such an esteemed magic circle law firm should graduate from NLS, if it was of such questionable reputation!

<blockquote>University of Nottingham = old, well established Russell Group Uni.

Nottingham Trent = ex-poly. rubbish.</blockquote>

If you consider the number of Freshfields lawyers who have graduated with an LLM from Nottingham Law School/Nottingham Trent University (http://www.llm-guide.com/board/56806), I ask myself why all of these lawyers from such an esteemed magic circle law firm should graduate from NLS, if it was of such questionable reputation!
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c-j-h

they did their LPC at NLS.
they didnt do an LLB or LLM there

they did their LPC at NLS.
they didnt do an LLB or LLM there
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c-j-h

ahhh i looked at the link they did do LLMs there sorry about the above post i just assumed it was LPC.

slaughters obviously have some connection with NLS for that specific environmental law course.

Still though, as an ex-poly i guarantee noone rates this university as a whole highly.

ahhh i looked at the link they did do LLMs there sorry about the above post i just assumed it was LPC.

slaughters obviously have some connection with NLS for that specific environmental law course.

Still though, as an ex-poly i guarantee noone rates this university as a whole highly.
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c-j-h

i mean freshfields damn!!! lol

i mean freshfields damn!!! lol
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TiGGer



Still though, as an ex-poly i guarantee noone rates this university as a whole highly.


I did my LLM at NLS last year and I got offers from Freshfields, A&O, Lovells, White&Case, Latham&Watkins and Taylor Wessing (finally decided to go to Freshfields...). In every job interview I did the LLM was a big plus. To be fair, I got a 1st in my undergraduate degree and a distinction in my LLM; however, every law firm considered NLS as a decend law school with excellent LLM programmes. And I can tell from my own experience that I had a phantastic time!

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Still though, as an ex-poly i guarantee noone rates this university as a whole highly.</blockquote>

I did my LLM at NLS last year and I got offers from Freshfields, A&O, Lovells, White&Case, Latham&Watkins and Taylor Wessing (finally decided to go to Freshfields...). In every job interview I did the LLM was a big plus. To be fair, I got a 1st in my undergraduate degree and a distinction in my LLM; however, every law firm considered NLS as a decend law school with excellent LLM programmes. And I can tell from my own experience that I had a phantastic time!
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c-j-h

wow fair play! NTU only requires a 2.2 for its LLM which i find a bit low to be honest, and NTU isnt considered a great uni in general but hey, clearly law firms like it. How come you went there when you had a first?

wow fair play! NTU only requires a 2.2 for its LLM which i find a bit low to be honest, and NTU isnt considered a great uni in general but hey, clearly law firms like it. How come you went there when you had a first?
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M_T_Cicero

"Still though, as an ex-poly i guarantee noone rates this university as a whole highly."

Lol, what a ridiculous statement. It sounds like the rubbish that A level or first year undergraduate students regurgitate.

"Still though, as an ex-poly i guarantee noone rates this university as a whole highly."

Lol, what a ridiculous statement. It sounds like the rubbish that A level or first year undergraduate students regurgitate.

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TiGGer

wow fair play! NTU only requires a 2.2 for its LLM which i find a bit low to be honest, and NTU isnt considered a great uni in general but hey, clearly law firms like it. How come you went there when you had a first?


First of all, I have a good friend who did their LLM at NLS and got plenty of job offers.
Second, Mr John Hodgson has an excellent reputation for European Law.
Third, I saw that many Freshfields lawyers have graduated from NLS...so it cannot be that bad, he?!
Fourth, NLS is offering a very attractive Summer School programme.
Fifth, coming from Germany I rejected Dubling (TCD) and Edinburgh coz I didn't want to get accustomed to the Scottish/Irish accent.
Sixth, I wanted to stay in a city which is good for travelling.
Seventh, the European Law course seemed quite attractive to me as it has a rather broad approach to the topic.
Eigth, there is a long dissertation.
Ninth, Nottingham is not as expensive as London.
And finally, NLS was the most friendly and fast responding law school I applied to. And I still get calls from some lecturers asking me how I develop. Truly exemplary!

<blockquote>wow fair play! NTU only requires a 2.2 for its LLM which i find a bit low to be honest, and NTU isnt considered a great uni in general but hey, clearly law firms like it. How come you went there when you had a first?
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First of all, I have a good friend who did their LLM at NLS and got plenty of job offers.
Second, Mr John Hodgson has an excellent reputation for European Law.
Third, I saw that many Freshfields lawyers have graduated from NLS...so it cannot be that bad, he?!
Fourth, NLS is offering a very attractive Summer School programme.
Fifth, coming from Germany I rejected Dubling (TCD) and Edinburgh coz I didn't want to get accustomed to the Scottish/Irish accent.
Sixth, I wanted to stay in a city which is good for travelling.
Seventh, the European Law course seemed quite attractive to me as it has a rather broad approach to the topic.
Eigth, there is a long dissertation.
Ninth, Nottingham is not as expensive as London.
And finally, NLS was the most friendly and fast responding law school I applied to. And I still get calls from some lecturers asking me how I develop. Truly exemplary!
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Pit Possum

Hey you guys. Just wanted to check what are your thoughts about Nottingham (LLM in International Commercial Law). Is it good ranked? How about the program itself and the city? And how about careed options. I am also considering attending Utrecht or Tilburg (Netherlands) and would like to know how does Nottingham compare to them.


Hi "lookingforLLM",

just to enable you to understand the fierceness of the discussion: There's an old rivalry between The University of Nottingham and Nottingham Trent University. Thus, there's generally no love lost between students of both universities, which means that a lot of students try to make their respective university look like the better one.

Having said that, I'll try to give an unbiased view of the LLM International Commercial Law at the University of Nottingham, as I attended the course from 2007-2008.

As opposed to Nottingham Law School of NTU, the School of Law is generally ranked among the top ten law schools in the UK (Times Good University Guide), and I think it also received a very good ranking in the most recent Guardian ranking. It also has a very good reputation in the UK and in my home country.

However, you shouldn't pay too much attention to the rankings as such but should try to focus on the subjects you want to study. I preferred Nottingham to Edinburgh, Durham and Aberdeen etc. because I wanted to specialise in EC and International Public Procurement Law, and the courses at the University of Nottingham are taught by one of the most distinguished academic in this area. This is also important if you want to apply for a scholarship, as a lot of donors want to know why you want to study at a special university. To be able to point out to a specific profile of a university can be very helpful in this case. (For example, I was awarded a full scholarship for the LLM by my home country, which covered both tuition fees, travelling costs and living expenses.)

In addition, I liked the fact that, having a non-common law background, I could choose both common law courses and non-common law courses. A slight drawback, however, is the assessment system, as you have to find a balance between courses being assessed by essays and those being assessed by exams. For example, I had to write four essays and two 3 hour exams, which is fairly manageable. But I wouldn't recommend to choose only essay-based courses. If you already know which subjects to study, you might want to consider this when choosing a university.

In general, the courses have a high level of discussion and demand a lot of preparation. However, the academics are throughout excellent and, apart from one case being based on personal reasons, I was very happy with the way of teaching and the classes. Nevertheless, you should prepare yourself for a considerable workload for the time from October to May.

If you want to work in an international law firm, there are also plenty of opportunities at the University of Nottingham, as these firms organise special events for llm students throughout the year.

The city of Nottingham is quite nice, although it definitely can't compete with Edinburgh, for example, and after a couple of months you definitely will have seen everything (but that's the same with Durham or Aberdeen)...

Hope this helps.

<blockquote>Hey you guys. Just wanted to check what are your thoughts about Nottingham (LLM in International Commercial Law). Is it good ranked? How about the program itself and the city? And how about careed options. I am also considering attending Utrecht or Tilburg (Netherlands) and would like to know how does Nottingham compare to them.</blockquote>

Hi "lookingforLLM",

just to enable you to understand the fierceness of the discussion: There's an old rivalry between The University of Nottingham and Nottingham Trent University. Thus, there's generally no love lost between students of both universities, which means that a lot of students try to make their respective university look like the better one.

Having said that, I'll try to give an unbiased view of the LLM International Commercial Law at the University of Nottingham, as I attended the course from 2007-2008.

As opposed to Nottingham Law School of NTU, the School of Law is generally ranked among the top ten law schools in the UK (Times Good University Guide), and I think it also received a very good ranking in the most recent Guardian ranking. It also has a very good reputation in the UK and in my home country.

However, you shouldn't pay too much attention to the rankings as such but should try to focus on the subjects you want to study. I preferred Nottingham to Edinburgh, Durham and Aberdeen etc. because I wanted to specialise in EC and International Public Procurement Law, and the courses at the University of Nottingham are taught by one of the most distinguished academic in this area. This is also important if you want to apply for a scholarship, as a lot of donors want to know why you want to study at a special university. To be able to point out to a specific profile of a university can be very helpful in this case. (For example, I was awarded a full scholarship for the LLM by my home country, which covered both tuition fees, travelling costs and living expenses.)

In addition, I liked the fact that, having a non-common law background, I could choose both common law courses and non-common law courses. A slight drawback, however, is the assessment system, as you have to find a balance between courses being assessed by essays and those being assessed by exams. For example, I had to write four essays and two 3 hour exams, which is fairly manageable. But I wouldn't recommend to choose only essay-based courses. If you already know which subjects to study, you might want to consider this when choosing a university.

In general, the courses have a high level of discussion and demand a lot of preparation. However, the academics are throughout excellent and, apart from one case being based on personal reasons, I was very happy with the way of teaching and the classes. Nevertheless, you should prepare yourself for a considerable workload for the time from October to May.

If you want to work in an international law firm, there are also plenty of opportunities at the University of Nottingham, as these firms organise special events for llm students throughout the year.

The city of Nottingham is quite nice, although it definitely can't compete with Edinburgh, for example, and after a couple of months you definitely will have seen everything (but that's the same with Durham or Aberdeen)...

Hope this helps.
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TiGGer

Hey Pit Possum!

Finally, a well balanced post. Seems like there are also some nice people at UoN ;-) No, just kidding! I generally agree with your opinion.

Hey Pit Possum!

Finally, a well balanced post. Seems like there are also some nice people at UoN ;-) No, just kidding! I generally agree with your opinion.
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Considering the above, I am REALLY considering attending the LLM Program of International Commercial Law of the University of Nottingham, but I have some questions. I don't know if you can help me:
(i) University of Nottingham x Edinburgh: Which one do you think offers me a better LLM program and which of them would you think is a better place of living. I see that Nottingham is always better ranked than Edinburgh. Do you guys agree with the raking lists on that?; and
(ii) Where to live in Nottingham? At the dorms or should I go after the Private Sector?
Thanks for the help!!!!!
Best regards

Considering the above, I am REALLY considering attending the LLM Program of International Commercial Law of the University of Nottingham, but I have some questions. I don't know if you can help me:
(i) University of Nottingham x Edinburgh: Which one do you think offers me a better LLM program and which of them would you think is a better place of living. I see that Nottingham is always better ranked than Edinburgh. Do you guys agree with the raking lists on that?; and
(ii) Where to live in Nottingham? At the dorms or should I go after the Private Sector?
Thanks for the help!!!!!
Best regards
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Sorry, I forgot to say that I want to specialise in Finance and Trade Finance Law.
Tks!!

Sorry, I forgot to say that I want to specialise in Finance and Trade Finance Law.
Tks!!
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Colorado

I NEED HELP! I should be most grateful if someone could please help me with this: I need to know the address where the reference letters must be sent. I double check in the web but I am not able to find out. Thank very much for your honorable help.

I NEED HELP! I should be most grateful if someone could please help me with this: I need to know the address where the reference letters must be sent. I double check in the web but I am not able to find out. Thank very much for your honorable help.
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Legal_Indi...

Hey, if there are any indians here can they solve my query:

I received a conditional offer stating as follows:
Manchester: "the only condition is that you must obtain 55% in your present degree"
Nottingham: "You must achieve 55% in your LLB degree"

Since i am doing the LLB course (5 years course) in India LLB is considered as the entire 5 years here. But actually it is a combined degree and its truely two degrees "B.L.S.,L.L.B."

Now according to the conditions of the Universities should i count the average of all 5 years result or only the last year or otherwise something else?

I am confused and I don't want to clarify this with the University because I am on the edge.

Hey, if there are any indians here can they solve my query:

I received a conditional offer stating as follows:
Manchester: "the only condition is that you must obtain 55% in your present degree"
Nottingham: "You must achieve 55% in your LLB degree"

Since i am doing the LLB course (5 years course) in India LLB is considered as the entire 5 years here. But actually it is a combined degree and its truely two degrees "B.L.S.,L.L.B."

Now according to the conditions of the Universities should i count the average of all 5 years result or only the last year or otherwise something else?

I am confused and I don't want to clarify this with the University because I am on the edge.
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Now according to the conditions of the Universities should i count the average of all 5 years result or only the last year or otherwise something else?

I am confused and I don't want to clarify this with the University because I am on the edge.


Hi Legal_India, m applying for Nottingham Law School LLM General, i secured 57% marks in my 3 year law degree, you need to get 55% as an average through out the 5 year program and not only in your last year, best regards and gud luck for ur admissions.

<blockquote>Now according to the conditions of the Universities should i count the average of all 5 years result or only the last year or otherwise something else?

I am confused and I don't want to clarify this with the University because I am on the edge.</blockquote>

Hi Legal_India, m applying for Nottingham Law School LLM General, i secured 57% marks in my 3 year law degree, you need to get 55% as an average through out the 5 year program and not only in your last year, best regards and gud luck for ur admissions.
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