LLM in LONDON LSE/KCL/QM/UCL/SOAS/CITY


1986

thanks to everyone!

one more question:

if send my application to LSE/KINGS/QMUL/UCL/... in end of october, is that still early enough? seeing early applications have higher chances!
unfortunatly i will not have the papers ready before then...

thanks to everyone!

one more question:

if send my application to LSE/KINGS/QMUL/UCL/... in end of october, is that still early enough? seeing early applications have higher chances!
unfortunatly i will not have the papers ready before then...

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PUCCA

end of october is still great dont worry,,,you are still applying early in my opinion,,

end of october is still great dont worry,,,you are still applying early in my opinion,,
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john gale

On entry requirements:

Kings states that it requires 'at least upper second-class honours standard or an equivalent overseas qualification.'

UCL requires 'a first class honours or a good upper second-class honours qualifying law degree from a UK university or an overseas qualification of an equivalent standard.'

The LSE states that 'places are normally only offered to applicants with very good grades in their law studies (eg a First or very high 2:1 in the UK LLB), and who rank amongst the best graduates of their law schools. Applicants with a very good degree in another discipline together with very good grades in an appropriate postgraduate diploma in law (such as the UK's Graduate Diploma in Law) may also qualify for a place.'

The LSE is slightly harder to get into than UCL. But UCL is not easy: some applicants to UCL who have upper second class degrees are rejected because a 'good' upper second is required. UCL is really very much on the first/high upper second border. Kings is known to be easier to get into, and there are plenty of students there with upper/lower second borderline degrees, but it is a good place for an LLM and worth considering.

On entry requirements:

Kings states that it requires 'at least upper second-class honours standard or an equivalent overseas qualification.'

UCL requires 'a first class honours or a good upper second-class honours qualifying law degree from a UK university or an overseas qualification of an equivalent standard.'

The LSE states that 'places are normally only offered to applicants with very good grades in their law studies (eg a First or very high 2:1 in the UK LLB), and who rank amongst the best graduates of their law schools. Applicants with a very good degree in another discipline together with very good grades in an appropriate postgraduate diploma in law (such as the UK's Graduate Diploma in Law) may also qualify for a place.'

The LSE is slightly harder to get into than UCL. But UCL is not easy: some applicants to UCL who have upper second class degrees are rejected because a 'good' upper second is required. UCL is really very much on the first/high upper second border. Kings is known to be easier to get into, and there are plenty of students there with upper/lower second borderline degrees, but it is a good place for an LLM and worth considering.

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VictoriaE

Hey guys, I attended the LLM in International Commercial Law last year so I may be able to help.
Firstly I am surprised from what I ve been reading as although I was accepted in other Universities (eg.Queen Mary) I preferred City and I didnt regret it at all. The personnel is highly qualified and the level of students as well. City has a max limit in all its courses, meaning 25 students per class (no way you find that in any other Uni in London) so profs really interact and care about students' opinion and thoughts. Moreover, the courses are very carefully designed to give knowledge that is useful not only on an academic level but also re our future professional career. For example, at the merger course we spent most of the time analysing market definition, effects etc , in general the "economics" of a merger which trust me when you start working you will understand that thats a merger all about. Most of all, City -as far as I know- is the only Uni that has a cartel course (big issue if interested in antitrust) and also the only Uni that cooperates with law firms and ensures summer internships for the best students as part of the LLM! Actually, despite the huge crisis last year I managed to get one of these internships in one of the biggest antitrust law firms in the world and I am now working as trainee there before my graduation!!! I fully recommend City!

Hey guys, I attended the LLM in International Commercial Law last year so I may be able to help.
Firstly I am surprised from what I ve been reading as although I was accepted in other Universities (eg.Queen Mary) I preferred City and I didnt regret it at all. The personnel is highly qualified and the level of students as well. City has a max limit in all its courses, meaning 25 students per class (no way you find that in any other Uni in London) so profs really interact and care about students' opinion and thoughts. Moreover, the courses are very carefully designed to give knowledge that is useful not only on an academic level but also re our future professional career. For example, at the merger course we spent most of the time analysing market definition, effects etc , in general the "economics" of a merger which trust me when you start working you will understand that thats a merger all about. Most of all, City -as far as I know- is the only Uni that has a cartel course (big issue if interested in antitrust) and also the only Uni that cooperates with law firms and ensures summer internships for the best students as part of the LLM! Actually, despite the huge crisis last year I managed to get one of these internships in one of the biggest antitrust law firms in the world and I am now working as trainee there before my graduation!!! I fully recommend City!
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I have studied at three of the universities: UCL, LSE and City. They are different becaouse of many reasons. If somebody is only interested in studying at best ranked universities I would suggest LSE, KCL or UCL. But with choosing LLM degree other qualities should count as well. As you know, LLM is for people who want to deepen knowledge and specialise in particular area of law, hence not only the name of the school should count but the academic staff, facilities, careers prospects. Comparing LLM at City University, I would put a couple of positive comments. Firstly, the number of people studying LLM is reasonably small which enable students to build better relations with classmates and teachers. Teachers are always approachabe and friendly, because it does make difference if the professor has to take care of 120 students or 12 students. Secondly, as I mentioned above, it is very important to know in which area of law somebody wants to specialise in before starting LLM. At City University there are several excellent professors in competition law. The City University is also known from very good maritime law programme. In comparison, KCL has very good competition law programme, LSE is known from financial law courses, QM has interesting intellectual property courses, UCL- environmental law. This is also crucial for somebody planning to study PhD after LLM on specific topic.
Thirdly, LLM applicants should think about securing some internships during or after LLM. City University provides several internships in law firms such as Thomas Cooper, Sildey Austin, Hawrey LLP, Cohen, and O'Molveny & Mayers. ( if you are a bit hardworking is possible to secure the internship, do not forget that if the are much less people studing, there is much less competition for the place :) Fourthly, location, atmosphere and socialiasing events should be taken into consideration in choosing particular LLM. City Law School organises around 10 law practice forums and seminars where you have opportunity to meet legal experts and senior practitioners. There is also plenty of possibilities to build good relation with classmates. There are drinks every week and several receptions during the year sponsored by the university. What is more, the university location is great in hear of London and the university provides modern facilities. I have been lucky to have studied LLM at City and do not think it is easier to get good grades than at LSE or UCL, as I studied at both of them as well and my grades did not vary. Lastly, I would like to mention about range of people studying on these universities. There are many American at LSE, Chineese at UCL, Indian at QM and lots of nationalities at City with number of Greeks.
I hope this comment will be helpful for people hesitating which course to choose, as this comment is based on couple of years of studing at London universities not only on biased opinions put by people who never studied there.

I have studied at three of the universities: UCL, LSE and City. They are different becaouse of many reasons. If somebody is only interested in studying at best ranked universities I would suggest LSE, KCL or UCL. But with choosing LLM degree other qualities should count as well. As you know, LLM is for people who want to deepen knowledge and specialise in particular area of law, hence not only the name of the school should count but the academic staff, facilities, careers prospects. Comparing LLM at City University, I would put a couple of positive comments. Firstly, the number of people studying LLM is reasonably small which enable students to build better relations with classmates and teachers. Teachers are always approachabe and friendly, because it does make difference if the professor has to take care of 120 students or 12 students. Secondly, as I mentioned above, it is very important to know in which area of law somebody wants to specialise in before starting LLM. At City University there are several excellent professors in competition law. The City University is also known from very good maritime law programme. In comparison, KCL has very good competition law programme, LSE is known from financial law courses, QM has interesting intellectual property courses, UCL- environmental law. This is also crucial for somebody planning to study PhD after LLM on specific topic.
Thirdly, LLM applicants should think about securing some internships during or after LLM. City University provides several internships in law firms such as Thomas Cooper, Sildey Austin, Hawrey LLP, Cohen, and O'Molveny & Mayers. ( if you are a bit hardworking is possible to secure the internship, do not forget that if the are much less people studing, there is much less competition for the place :) Fourthly, location, atmosphere and socialiasing events should be taken into consideration in choosing particular LLM. City Law School organises around 10 law practice forums and seminars where you have opportunity to meet legal experts and senior practitioners. There is also plenty of possibilities to build good relation with classmates. There are drinks every week and several receptions during the year sponsored by the university. What is more, the university location is great in hear of London and the university provides modern facilities. I have been lucky to have studied LLM at City and do not think it is easier to get good grades than at LSE or UCL, as I studied at both of them as well and my grades did not vary. Lastly, I would like to mention about range of people studying on these universities. There are many American at LSE, Chineese at UCL, Indian at QM and lots of nationalities at City with number of Greeks.
I hope this comment will be helpful for people hesitating which course to choose, as this comment is based on couple of years of studing at London universities not only on biased opinions put by people who never studied there.
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joseph s

Anyone who can get into the LSE, UCL , Kings or QMUL would not touch City, unless they were unaware of the rankings, or like LLMgraduate, for some reason they didn't really care about going to a good school.

Kings is top ranked for Competition in London, but UCL is also excellent.

Anyone who can get into the LSE, UCL , Kings or QMUL would not touch City, unless they were unaware of the rankings, or like LLMgraduate, for some reason they didn't really care about going to a good school.

Kings is top ranked for Competition in London, but UCL is also excellent.


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Energy_

Not to mention SOAS!!!

around 60% of the students there are international...

Not to mention SOAS!!!

around 60% of the students there are international...
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VictoriaE

Dear Joseph,
I was aware of rankings, I was accepted in Queen Mary, I dont like qraduates and I really cared both about my LLM and my career. I had an LLM specializing in Competition, work eperience in my cv and now a job as an antitrust trainee. So it would be better when you talk about "unaware" applicants and bad schools to talk with evidence. At the end of the day you refer to lawyers..:-)

Dear Joseph,
I was aware of rankings, I was accepted in Queen Mary, I dont like qraduates and I really cared both about my LLM and my career. I had an LLM specializing in Competition, work eperience in my cv and now a job as an antitrust trainee. So it would be better when you talk about "unaware" applicants and bad schools to talk with evidence. At the end of the day you refer to lawyers..:-)
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1986

concerning city university:

any feedback on the international commercial law program?

because if i would consider city, then for this program.
if i would get into LSE/Kings/QMUL/UCL/SOAS i would go for their international business law program

thanks !

concerning city university:

any feedback on the international commercial law program?

because if i would consider city, then for this program.
if i would get into LSE/Kings/QMUL/UCL/SOAS i would go for their international business law program

thanks !
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Wheretogo_

Try SOAS, Kings, QMUL and UCL

If you get into one of them go for it!!!

Try SOAS, Kings, QMUL and UCL

If you get into one of them go for it!!!
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tnuchpiam

1986, it costs practically nothing (except LSE's application fee) to apply to all those top-ranked schools of the University of London. Hence, there is no question why you should apply to all of them. If you are accepted by any one of them, there is also no question why you should eagerly grab the offer.

But I suppose you main problem is where you should go if you could not get into any one of these schools. That is why the like of City and Brunel have been mentioned. Unless, of course, you have come to the conclusion that you would rather go without an LLM than waste your money with schools in lower rankings than those of the London's big four or five!

1986, it costs practically nothing (except LSE's application fee) to apply to all those top-ranked schools of the University of London. Hence, there is no question why you should apply to all of them. If you are accepted by any one of them, there is also no question why you should eagerly grab the offer.

But I suppose you main problem is where you should go if you could not get into any one of these schools. That is why the like of City and Brunel have been mentioned. Unless, of course, you have come to the conclusion that you would rather go without an LLM than waste your money with schools in lower rankings than those of the London's big four or five!
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1986

is it true that only LSE askes for application fees?

KINGS/QMUL/SOAS/CITY/UCL/BRUNEL/WESTMINSTER/METROPOLITAN do not charge any application fees?

thanks for your help!

is it true that only LSE askes for application fees?

KINGS/QMUL/SOAS/CITY/UCL/BRUNEL/WESTMINSTER/METROPOLITAN do not charge any application fees?

thanks for your help!
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tnuchpiam

As far as I know, only LSE and Warwick require application fees.

As far as I know, only LSE and Warwick require application fees.
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ellenvn

I have studied at three of the universities: UCL, LSE and City. They are different becaouse of many reasons. If somebody is only interested in studying at best ranked universities I would suggest LSE, KCL or UCL. But with choosing LLM degree other qualities should count as well. As you know, LLM is for people who want to deepen knowledge and specialise in particular area of law, hence not only the name of the school should count but the academic staff, facilities, careers prospects. Comparing LLM at City University, I would put a couple of positive comments. Firstly, the number of people studying LLM is reasonably small which enable students to build better relations with classmates and teachers. Teachers are always approachabe and friendly, because it does make difference if the professor has to take care of 120 students or 12 students. Secondly, as I mentioned above, it is very important to know in which area of law somebody wants to specialise in before starting LLM. At City University there are several excellent professors in competition law. The City University is also known from very good maritime law programme. In comparison, KCL has very good competition law programme, LSE is known from financial law courses, QM has interesting intellectual property courses, UCL- environmental law. This is also crucial for somebody planning to study PhD after LLM on specific topic.
Thirdly, LLM applicants should think about securing some internships during or after LLM. City University provides several internships in law firms such as Thomas Cooper, Sildey Austin, Hawrey LLP, Cohen, and O'Molveny & Mayers. ( if you are a bit hardworking is possible to secure the internship, do not forget that if the are much less people studing, there is much less competition for the place :) Fourthly, location, atmosphere and socialiasing events should be taken into consideration in choosing particular LLM. City Law School organises around 10 law practice forums and seminars where you have opportunity to meet legal experts and senior practitioners. There is also plenty of possibilities to build good relation with classmates. There are drinks every week and several receptions during the year sponsored by the university. What is more, the university location is great in hear of London and the university provides modern facilities. I have been lucky to have studied LLM at City and do not think it is easier to get good grades than at LSE or UCL, as I studied at both of them as well and my grades did not vary. Lastly, I would like to mention about range of people studying on these universities. There are many American at LSE, Chineese at UCL, Indian at QM and lots of nationalities at City with number of Greeks.
I hope this comment will be helpful for people hesitating which course to choose, as this comment is based on couple of years of studing at London universities not only on biased opinions put by people who never studied there.


Hi LLMgraduate. Thanks a lot for your post. Do you know whether international students (EU) have any chance of doing an internship at a London law firm?

<blockquote>I have studied at three of the universities: UCL, LSE and City. They are different becaouse of many reasons. If somebody is only interested in studying at best ranked universities I would suggest LSE, KCL or UCL. But with choosing LLM degree other qualities should count as well. As you know, LLM is for people who want to deepen knowledge and specialise in particular area of law, hence not only the name of the school should count but the academic staff, facilities, careers prospects. Comparing LLM at City University, I would put a couple of positive comments. Firstly, the number of people studying LLM is reasonably small which enable students to build better relations with classmates and teachers. Teachers are always approachabe and friendly, because it does make difference if the professor has to take care of 120 students or 12 students. Secondly, as I mentioned above, it is very important to know in which area of law somebody wants to specialise in before starting LLM. At City University there are several excellent professors in competition law. The City University is also known from very good maritime law programme. In comparison, KCL has very good competition law programme, LSE is known from financial law courses, QM has interesting intellectual property courses, UCL- environmental law. This is also crucial for somebody planning to study PhD after LLM on specific topic.
Thirdly, LLM applicants should think about securing some internships during or after LLM. City University provides several internships in law firms such as Thomas Cooper, Sildey Austin, Hawrey LLP, Cohen, and O'Molveny & Mayers. ( if you are a bit hardworking is possible to secure the internship, do not forget that if the are much less people studing, there is much less competition for the place :) Fourthly, location, atmosphere and socialiasing events should be taken into consideration in choosing particular LLM. City Law School organises around 10 law practice forums and seminars where you have opportunity to meet legal experts and senior practitioners. There is also plenty of possibilities to build good relation with classmates. There are drinks every week and several receptions during the year sponsored by the university. What is more, the university location is great in hear of London and the university provides modern facilities. I have been lucky to have studied LLM at City and do not think it is easier to get good grades than at LSE or UCL, as I studied at both of them as well and my grades did not vary. Lastly, I would like to mention about range of people studying on these universities. There are many American at LSE, Chineese at UCL, Indian at QM and lots of nationalities at City with number of Greeks.
I hope this comment will be helpful for people hesitating which course to choose, as this comment is based on couple of years of studing at London universities not only on biased opinions put by people who never studied there.
</blockquote>

Hi LLMgraduate. Thanks a lot for your post. Do you know whether international students (EU) have any chance of doing an internship at a London law firm?
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flagman

concerning city university:

any feedback on the international commercial law program?_____________________________________________
Hello,
I took a International Commercial LLM in the City specializing in financial law. Firstly want to say that I was really pleased with the range of courses that we were given to choose, I personally took International Banking, Corporate Finance, Taxation, and Project Finance, trying to compile a well-ballanced program for myself. I had some expertiese in some of aforementioned areas, but some were totally new to me. Time showed that it was a good choice, although professors didn't built their programs ralative to eachother, all material came into place by the end of the course. Stuff is really friendly and really take their time to explain the material.
In regards to being informed about ranking and different Uni programs I can tell that I was studying in US law school and was looking through LLM programs there and in UK; I checked a number of options. When you are choosing particular specific program that really suits your needs you have to be carefull with rankings, because they often reflect irrelevant matters to you. You have to decide what you really want and which Uni can offer it to you. I don't know what "negative things" you've heard of City, I was enjoying both my studying and social life there, all my issues was treatet by them with care and precision. As it was mentioned they offer a broad variaty of possible internships plus are affiliated with a number of prominent law firms.
Hope it will help you to finalize your choice. For sure applying to several schools is the wise choice.
Good luck.

concerning city university:

any feedback on the international commercial law program?_____________________________________________
Hello,
I took a International Commercial LLM in the City specializing in financial law. Firstly want to say that I was really pleased with the range of courses that we were given to choose, I personally took International Banking, Corporate Finance, Taxation, and Project Finance, trying to compile a well-ballanced program for myself. I had some expertiese in some of aforementioned areas, but some were totally new to me. Time showed that it was a good choice, although professors didn't built their programs ralative to eachother, all material came into place by the end of the course. Stuff is really friendly and really take their time to explain the material.
In regards to being informed about ranking and different Uni programs I can tell that I was studying in US law school and was looking through LLM programs there and in UK; I checked a number of options. When you are choosing particular specific program that really suits your needs you have to be carefull with rankings, because they often reflect irrelevant matters to you. You have to decide what you really want and which Uni can offer it to you. I don't know what "negative things" you've heard of City, I was enjoying both my studying and social life there, all my issues was treatet by them with care and precision. As it was mentioned they offer a broad variaty of possible internships plus are affiliated with a number of prominent law firms.
Hope it will help you to finalize your choice. For sure applying to several schools is the wise choice.
Good luck.
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Guys I need a frank opinion on this.. pls tell me I am planning to do an LL.M from London. I already have admiddion in UCL but am trying for LSE as well... now supposing that i dont get into LSE what is the reputaion of UCL in INdia.. do people know about it here or no? and what are the job prospects back here in INdia.. some one pls help!!!

Guys I need a frank opinion on this.. pls tell me I am planning to do an LL.M from London. I already have admiddion in UCL but am trying for LSE as well... now supposing that i dont get into LSE what is the reputaion of UCL in INdia.. do people know about it here or no? and what are the job prospects back here in INdia.. some one pls help!!!
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joseph s

UCL has had a long association with India and has many Indian students every year.

UCL has had a long association with India and has many Indian students every year.
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PUCCA

oh im 100% sure they know about UCL,,im not indian but the hugeeeee amount of indians in my LLM course tell me that UCL is well known there,,otherwise they wouldnt have bother to come here. Its a great uni in my opinion! :)

oh im 100% sure they know about UCL,,im not indian but the hugeeeee amount of indians in my LLM course tell me that UCL is well known there,,otherwise they wouldnt have bother to come here. Its a great uni in my opinion! :)
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