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Hello,

I'm french and I did some application forms and I recieved several offers. But all my offers are conditionnal.

I will take the IELTS test in a two weeks, and I would like to what happen my score is not the minimum score that Universities wants?

I would like to do a pre-sessionnal of English.

In general, Universities are strict with this?

Thank you very much for your help.

Ludovic

Hello,

I'm french and I did some application forms and I recieved several offers. But all my offers are conditionnal.

I will take the IELTS test in a two weeks, and I would like to what happen my score is not the minimum score that Universities wants?

I would like to do a pre-sessionnal of English.

In general, Universities are strict with this?

Thank you very much for your help.

Ludovic
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tnuchpiam

It depends on the individual universities you have applied to. For QMUL, for example, if you have 6.0, you are required to take a 12-week pre-sessional English course; and if your IELTS score is 6.5, you need only a four-week pre-sessional course. Bristol, on the other hand, will not accept any pre-sessional English qualification as a substitute for the minimum IELTS score of 7.0 [or its TOEFL equivalent). Some other universities are perhaps more flexible. For Essex, if I was not mistaken, an IELTS score of 5.5 is acceptable for a 15-week pre-sessional English course. I suppose all universities you have applied to have made it clear in their conditional offers what their bottom lines are. However, I am at a loss whether these bottom lines are negotiable.

It depends on the individual universities you have applied to. For QMUL, for example, if you have 6.0, you are required to take a 12-week pre-sessional English course; and if your IELTS score is 6.5, you need only a four-week pre-sessional course. Bristol, on the other hand, will not accept any pre-sessional English qualification as a substitute for the minimum IELTS score of 7.0 [or its TOEFL equivalent). Some other universities are perhaps more flexible. For Essex, if I was not mistaken, an IELTS score of 5.5 is acceptable for a 15-week pre-sessional English course. I suppose all universities you have applied to have made it clear in their conditional offers what their bottom lines are. However, I am at a loss whether these bottom lines are negotiable.
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beicon

I think that most universities are very unlikely to waive the english language requirement. The LLM is based very much on reading and writing in english. You should focus on getting the grade you need.

I think that most universities are very unlikely to waive the english language requirement. The LLM is based very much on reading and writing in english. You should focus on getting the grade you need.
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lmwoods

I'd like to support that statement. Even if the university does accept a presessional course, this may be because the law school has had its hands tied by general university policy rather than a decision about what level of language is required for a particular scheme.
Law is based heavily on sometimes sophisticated distinctions in language. I could image it would be hugely frustrating not to be able to express an idea as you would in your mother tongue. Such a failure would also have an impact on yours grades. In my view, if you don't have at the very minimum 6.5 IELTS you will struggle and I think 7 is really what you should be training for.
If you want a presessional experience, I'd almost suggest a law based summer school if your English is good enough obviously. This will start introducing specific law based vocabulary as well as the common law reasoning and allow you a little time to familiarise yourself with that before starting the LLM in ernest.

I'd like to support that statement. Even if the university does accept a presessional course, this may be because the law school has had its hands tied by general university policy rather than a decision about what level of language is required for a particular scheme.
Law is based heavily on sometimes sophisticated distinctions in language. I could image it would be hugely frustrating not to be able to express an idea as you would in your mother tongue. Such a failure would also have an impact on yours grades. In my view, if you don't have at the very minimum 6.5 IELTS you will struggle and I think 7 is really what you should be training for.
If you want a presessional experience, I'd almost suggest a law based summer school if your English is good enough obviously. This will start introducing specific law based vocabulary as well as the common law reasoning and allow you a little time to familiarise yourself with that before starting the LLM in ernest.
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regulator

I support very high English language entry standards in postgraduate law degrees. Many people on these boards complain about them, but proficiency in English is such an essential skill for a lawyer. I couldn't do my job if my English was only mediocre. It is the medium in which the law is recorded, and the medium in which advice is given and litigation conducted. How can it not be relevant? A person whose English is less than impeccable should study an intensive English course before they think about doing an LLM. I wouldn't dream of trying to study law at an advanced level in French because I am not fluent. People need to be realistic. I have been in many classes which were full of people who couldn't speak English well enough to contribute meaningfully to discussions about the law.

I support very high English language entry standards in postgraduate law degrees. Many people on these boards complain about them, but proficiency in English is such an essential skill for a lawyer. I couldn't do my job if my English was only mediocre. It is the medium in which the law is recorded, and the medium in which advice is given and litigation conducted. How can it not be relevant? A person whose English is less than impeccable should study an intensive English course before they think about doing an LLM. I wouldn't dream of trying to study law at an advanced level in French because I am not fluent. People need to be realistic. I have been in many classes which were full of people who couldn't speak English well enough to contribute meaningfully to discussions about the law.
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Hi
I now how it is sometimes very hard to study new langauge as well as to study law in different country .
Anyway I recommend you strongly to search for English for law pre-sessional course and I know that there is such course at Aberdeen university.
from my presonal experience I have to say that the specialty and intensity of English for law course well significantly improve your knowledge about both English language and the law in the UK but at least you should get 5.5 in the IELTS exam to be prepare to study it.
Good luck

Hi
I now how it is sometimes very hard to study new langauge as well as to study law in different country .
Anyway I recommend you strongly to search for English for law pre-sessional course and I know that there is such course at Aberdeen university.
from my presonal experience I have to say that the specialty and intensity of English for law course well significantly improve your knowledge about both English language and the law in the UK but at least you should get 5.5 in the IELTS exam to be prepare to study it.
Good luck
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