Kings v QM


Reeta

Hi Everyone

Kings v QM: Which one offers a better LLM as well as has better job prospects after completion of the LLM (I ask this also in view of the fact that QM has jumped considerably in rankings in most league tables for 2010-2011).

Hi Everyone

Kings v QM: Which one offers a better LLM as well as has better job prospects after completion of the LLM (I ask this also in view of the fact that QM has jumped considerably in rankings in most league tables for 2010-2011).

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Interalia

Hi Everyone

Kings v QM: Which one offers a better LLM as well as has better job prospects after completion of the LLM (I ask this also in view of the fact that QM has jumped considerably in rankings in most league tables for 2010-2011).



King's unless you're planning to specialize in IP law, then QM

<blockquote>Hi Everyone

Kings v QM: Which one offers a better LLM as well as has better job prospects after completion of the LLM (I ask this also in view of the fact that QM has jumped considerably in rankings in most league tables for 2010-2011).

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King's unless you're planning to specialize in IP law, then QM
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Good Gosh

easily kings, unless ip law..

easily kings, unless ip law..
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Reeta

Many Thanks for the feedback.

Many Thanks for the feedback.
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beicon

KCL, no doubt. My fiancée was going to QM, but she managed to meet KCLs conditions and instantly threw QMs offer out and grabbed KCLs with both hands. Not that QM isnt a great place, but I think KCL enjoys a better overall reputation. Unless youre really into IP, where people say QM has one of the best lecturing team in UK, I wouldnt think twice about taking KCL up on their offer...

KCL, no doubt. My fiancée was going to QM, but she managed to meet KCL’s conditions and instantly threw QM’s offer out and grabbed KCL’s with both hands. Not that QM isn’t a great place, but I think KCL enjoys a better overall reputation. Unless you’re really into IP, where people say QM has one of the best lecturing team in UK, I wouldn’t think twice about taking KCL up on their offer...
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ll.m2010

Reeta...the advice your being given is based primarily on undergraduate rankings and the opinions of students from many countries who've had various experiences. The University of London delivers quality degrees in all of their colleges. Do not base your decision solely on the mis-assertion that QM is somehow "inferior".

Reeta...the advice your being given is based primarily on undergraduate rankings and the opinions of students from many countries who've had various experiences. The University of London delivers quality degrees in all of their colleges. Do not base your decision solely on the mis-assertion that QM is somehow "inferior".
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beicon

I can't say anything on behalf of the others who've posted here saying Reeta should choose KCL over Queen Mary, but in my name I say that my advice wasn't based solely on undergraduate rankings and the perspective of my own country. Of course, it'd be stupid of me to say that I didn't take those into account, but I can assure you and Reeta that it's not the only thing I thought of whilst I wrote my previous post.

One other important factor that I had in mind was the opinion of people I know who've been graduate students in the UK and/or live and work in the legal industry in the UK. All of them told me the same thing: for graduate studies in laws (considering only the constituent colleges of the University of London), first tier LSE and UCL (with an advantage to LSE), second tier KCL and third tier Queen Mary.

One person I talked to in particular, who lives in the UK and works for a magic circle firm in London, said that when she asked around which universities she should apply to one bloke (lecturer at one of the constituent colleges of the University of London) told her: "focus on LSE and UCL and don't bother with the others". So they crossed even KCL off the list...

I do think Queen Mary has a great law school and it's been investing a lot of money and efforts into making an even better law school for the future. But I reckon if our colleague Reeta has the chance, and if his/her interests aren't related to some areas (such as IP) where QM has a recognised expertise in, he/she should choose KCL over Queen Mary not because of undergraduate rankings, but rather because people inside the UK believe that it enjoys a better reputation in law, and possibly overall as well.

I find your assumption that the other posts imply a 'mis-assertion that QM is somehow inferior' a bit offensive. Perhaps you make a mis-assertion when you simply presume you can outwit everyone else... but I agree 100% with you when you say all University of London's colleges deliver great postgraduate education and degrees.

BTW, I don't recall right now which one was it (I think it was Times's), but if we were to take account of only undergraduate rankings, we'd be telling Reeta to bin KCL's offer because Queen Mary has been ranked first in London this year...

Regards,

I can't say anything on behalf of the others who've posted here saying Reeta should choose KCL over Queen Mary, but in my name I say that my advice wasn't based solely on undergraduate rankings and the perspective of my own country. Of course, it'd be stupid of me to say that I didn't take those into account, but I can assure you and Reeta that it's not the only thing I thought of whilst I wrote my previous post.

One other important factor that I had in mind was the opinion of people I know who've been graduate students in the UK and/or live and work in the legal industry in the UK. All of them told me the same thing: for graduate studies in laws (considering only the constituent colleges of the University of London), first tier LSE and UCL (with an advantage to LSE), second tier KCL and third tier Queen Mary.

One person I talked to in particular, who lives in the UK and works for a magic circle firm in London, said that when she asked around which universities she should apply to one bloke (lecturer at one of the constituent colleges of the University of London) told her: "focus on LSE and UCL and don't bother with the others". So they crossed even KCL off the list...

I do think Queen Mary has a great law school and it's been investing a lot of money and efforts into making an even better law school for the future. But I reckon if our colleague Reeta has the chance, and if his/her interests aren't related to some areas (such as IP) where QM has a recognised expertise in, he/she should choose KCL over Queen Mary not because of undergraduate rankings, but rather because people inside the UK believe that it enjoys a better reputation in law, and possibly overall as well.

I find your assumption that the other posts imply a 'mis-assertion that QM is somehow inferior' a bit offensive. Perhaps you make a mis-assertion when you simply presume you can outwit everyone else... but I agree 100% with you when you say all University of London's colleges deliver great postgraduate education and degrees.

BTW, I don't recall right now which one was it (I think it was Times's), but if we were to take account of only undergraduate rankings, we'd be telling Reeta to bin KCL's offer because Queen Mary has been ranked first in London this year...

Regards,
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ll.m2010

Lol. Beicon, you need not leap in defense as my post simply stated that the choice is essentially Reeta's and no one else's. I am not interested in 'outwitting' anyone least of all about spending tens of thousands of pounds sterling which is of no benefit to me.

Furthermore, Reeta's job prospects certainly depend on alot more than which university he/she attends, e.g. his/her ability to work in the United Kingdom particularly if he/she is ordinarily resident outside the United Kingdom or the European Union.

Lol. Beicon, you need not leap in defense as my post simply stated that the choice is essentially Reeta's and no one else's. I am not interested in 'outwitting' anyone least of all about spending tens of thousands of pounds sterling which is of no benefit to me.

Furthermore, Reeta's job prospects certainly depend on alot more than which university he/she attends, e.g. his/her ability to work in the United Kingdom particularly if he/she is ordinarily resident outside the United Kingdom or the European Union.
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beicon

I couldnt agree more when you say it is ultimately Reetas decision and anything we say shouldnt be the sole reason for her deciding in favour of one or the other. I do think he/she could take what we say here into account, but several other tings will certainly influence her decision. And I also agree with you when you say his/her job prospects are strongly dependent upon her ability to work and live in the UK.

If you had no intention whatsoever of outsmarting anyone and possibly disregard or disrespect any of the opinion stated above, then please do apologise me for making a wrong assumption. Posts cannot show ones tone and ideas as perfectly as a real live conversation, so maybe your intention and as well as my defensive post didnt come out the way they were supposed to kind of lost in translation.

Regards,

I couldn’t agree more when you say it is ultimately Reeta’s decision and anything we say shouldn’t be the sole reason for her deciding in favour of one or the other. I do think he/she could take what we say here into account, but several other tings will certainly influence her decision. And I also agree with you when you say his/her job prospects are strongly dependent upon her ability to work and live in the UK.

If you had no intention whatsoever of outsmarting anyone and possibly disregard or disrespect any of the opinion stated above, then please do apologise me for making a wrong assumption. Posts cannot show one’s tone and ideas as perfectly as a real live conversation, so maybe your intention and as well as my defensive post didn’t come out the way they were supposed to… kind of ‘lost in translation’.

Regards,
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Kerfuffle

Just going back to Reeta's original question about job prospects, there is little to no difference in terms of job prospects between one attending KCL or QM for the LLM (the same can be said for all LLMs, with the exception of Oxbridge).

Just going back to Reeta's original question about job prospects, there is little to no difference in terms of job prospects between one attending KCL or QM for the LLM (the same can be said for all LLMs, with the exception of Oxbridge).
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Reeta

LLM is seen somewhat as an academic degree so I would, perhaps, agree with Kerfuffle that job prospects may be highest after a LLM from Oxbridge. Having said this, some of my friends wanted to stay in London while doing their LLM so have chosen LSE, UCL or KCL which are also good options....

I must also point out that LSE may have had a bit of a leftist image in the past but not anymore and it may be better recognised outside the UK than, perhaps, UCL and KCL.

And as some members have rightly pointed that QM may be a good option for doing IP (as well as, I have been told, for Taxation).

p.s. My original post was made for my cousin who was undecided between KCL and QM. Thanks for all the feedback.

LLM is seen somewhat as an academic degree so I would, perhaps, agree with Kerfuffle that job prospects may be highest after a LLM from Oxbridge. Having said this, some of my friends wanted to stay in London while doing their LLM so have chosen LSE, UCL or KCL which are also good options....

I must also point out that LSE may have had a bit of a leftist image in the past but not anymore and it may be better recognised outside the UK than, perhaps, UCL and KCL.

And as some members have rightly pointed that QM may be a good option for doing IP (as well as, I have been told, for Taxation).

p.s. My original post was made for my cousin who was undecided between KCL and QM. Thanks for all the feedback.

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