england and scotland


arun.s

friends i have an offer letter from warwick as well as glasgow
really confused as 2 which univ i should join eventhough i am impressed by glasgows reputation i am apprehensive of doing an llm in scotland will that affect my carrear prospects
i dont know any one from glasgow university so plesae give me some advice

friends i have an offer letter from warwick as well as glasgow
really confused as 2 which univ i should join eventhough i am impressed by glasgows reputation i am apprehensive of doing an llm in scotland will that affect my carrear prospects
i dont know any one from glasgow university so plesae give me some advice
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arun.s

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currently i am practising in s.c of india and i would love to work with a reputed law firm i just wanted to know if the scottish tag is at a disadvantage to english many of my friends have different opinions

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currently i am practising in s.c of india and i would love to work with a reputed law firm i just wanted to know if the scottish tag is at a disadvantage to english many of my friends have different opinions
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Nicky

I have to admit I don't know much about Warwick or Glasgow in particular. However, I don't think a Scottish LLM is a disadvantage. Of course, it won't make much sense to study Scottish law if you want to work for an English law firm, since the legal system in Scotland differs considerably from the English system. If you take courses on international law it won't make any difference though if you're at an English or Scottish university. I'd rather go for reputation and which courses you like better etc.

I have to admit I don't know much about Warwick or Glasgow in particular. However, I don't think a Scottish LLM is a disadvantage. Of course, it won't make much sense to study Scottish law if you want to work for an English law firm, since the legal system in Scotland differs considerably from the English system. If you take courses on international law it won't make any difference though if you're at an English or Scottish university. I'd rather go for reputation and which courses you like better etc.
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Hi arun...
Congrats on your admits. I am not to sure about the exact points of difference between English and Scottish Law but I do believe that it is sustantially different as England and Scotland are in all purposes two different jurisdictions. As a result if are thinking of working in the UK, depending on your degree your options might be restricted or broadened.

If I were you, I would read for my LLM at Warwick, for the following reasons:
1. Its based on English law - keeps your options open should you want to work within the UK. If you were to go back and join a law firm in India, I believe an LLM from England would carry more weight than an LLM from Scotland. Ditto for the USA and Canada.
2. I might be biased, but personally I would prefer Warwick to Glasgow. Warwick is quite highly rated (above Glasglow or Strathclyde) amongst employers and academics alike, and is amongst the top 10 Unis in the UK for Law as well as overall. It has a great campus and there are some brilliant profs (including ex VC of Delhi Uni, Prof Upendra Baxi). As for international reputation and credibility, Warwick has the edge over Glasgow & Strathclyde.

Hope this helps. Good luck!!!

Hi arun...
Congrats on your admits. I am not to sure about the exact points of difference between English and Scottish Law but I do believe that it is sustantially different as England and Scotland are in all purposes two different jurisdictions. As a result if are thinking of working in the UK, depending on your degree your options might be restricted or broadened.

If I were you, I would read for my LLM at Warwick, for the following reasons:
1. Its based on English law - keeps your options open should you want to work within the UK. If you were to go back and join a law firm in India, I believe an LLM from England would carry more weight than an LLM from Scotland. Ditto for the USA and Canada.
2. I might be biased, but personally I would prefer Warwick to Glasgow. Warwick is quite highly rated (above Glasglow or Strathclyde) amongst employers and academics alike, and is amongst the top 10 Unis in the UK for Law as well as overall. It has a great campus and there are some brilliant profs (including ex VC of Delhi Uni, Prof Upendra Baxi). As for international reputation and credibility, Warwick has the edge over Glasgow & Strathclyde.

Hope this helps. Good luck!!!
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gamayun

Dear shil_aditya!

Could you please help me?! I really need your advise, gosh I am glad that you are from Warwick.

As I mentioned before on this board I have obtained a British Chevening Scholarship (which was very suprising, because I was preparing to read my LLM course in the USA). I prefered to go to the UK and do LLM there and defer for one year my studies in the USA.

THE PROBLEM is that I do not know how can I combine two studies: LLM in UK (i.e. UCL, KCL - where I got an admission) finishes in Sept (lessons finish in June, but exams will begin in Aug-Sept). LLM in the USA starts in mid-August, and I NEED to be there by that time, so I need my UK studies to be finished by end of July-early August.

Can Warwick by any means offer such opportunity (i.e. my colleague graduated from Cambridge in June!) for students - for example lessons will finish in June and dissertation much be submitted by Septmber. So that a student may leave the University and submit papers later over mail.

Thank you in advance for understanding and assistance!
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Dear shil_aditya!

Could you please help me?! I really need your advise, gosh I am glad that you are from Warwick.

As I mentioned before on this board I have obtained a British Chevening Scholarship (which was very suprising, because I was preparing to read my LLM course in the USA). I prefered to go to the UK and do LLM there and defer for one year my studies in the USA.

THE PROBLEM is that I do not know how can I combine two studies: LLM in UK (i.e. UCL, KCL - where I got an admission) finishes in Sept (lessons finish in June, but exams will begin in Aug-Sept). LLM in the USA starts in mid-August, and I NEED to be there by that time, so I need my UK studies to be finished by end of July-early August.

Can Warwick by any means offer such opportunity (i.e. my colleague graduated from Cambridge in June!) for students - for example lessons will finish in June and dissertation much be submitted by Septmber. So that a student may leave the University and submit papers later over mail.

Thank you in advance for understanding and assistance!
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Russ

Warwick is quite highly rated (above Glasglow or Strathclyde) amongst employers and academics alike, and is amongst the top 10 Unis in the UK for Law as well as overall.


For the most part I agree with shil_aditya. However, I would not say that Warwick's Law School is generally rated higher amongst academics than Glasgow. According to the Times, Glasgow is ranked 9th in the UK for law (undergraduate), Warwick ist ranked 18th. In the Guardian ranking Warwick is ranked 10th and Strathclyde is only 40th.

I would not rely on rankings too much, but if you consider rankings at all, you should probably rather look at the Times ranking. The Guardian's ranking for 2005 is really disputable: Few academics or employers would place SOAS ahead of Cambridge and Abertay ahead of UCL...

Just look at this thread: http://www.llm-guide.com/board/4203

<blockquote>Warwick is quite highly rated (above Glasglow or Strathclyde) amongst employers and academics alike, and is amongst the top 10 Unis in the UK for Law as well as overall.</blockquote>

For the most part I agree with shil_aditya. However, I would not say that Warwick's Law School is generally rated higher amongst academics than Glasgow. According to the Times, Glasgow is ranked 9th in the UK for law (undergraduate), Warwick ist ranked 18th. In the Guardian ranking Warwick is ranked 10th and Strathclyde is only 40th.

I would not rely on rankings too much, but if you consider rankings at all, you should probably rather look at the Times ranking. The Guardian's ranking for 2005 is really disputable: Few academics or employers would place SOAS ahead of Cambridge and Abertay ahead of UCL...

Just look at this thread: http://www.llm-guide.com/board/4203
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@gamayun
Congrats on the Chevening!!! If I understand your problem correctly you are concerned with the overlap in the two courses in August 06. To be honest I am not sure what the University policy is. I am a final year LLB student at Warwick and don't really know too much about their policy regarding early completion of the degree. I guess you could mail the Law School and explain your situation and ask them if they would allow you to leave by July. You could also check the modes of assessment for the modules you are interested in and their course schedule. The dissertation is usually due in Sept and you could finish it before its deadline. However, not sure how you would deal with the final exams which may be scheduled in August. Best bet would be to mail both your Law Schools (UK & USA) and see if they can be a bit more flexible. Sorry I couldnt be of more help. Good luck!!!

@Russ
Yeah I totally agree with you about the academic quotient. However, the rankings are for LLB courses and there are no LLM rankings published in the UK. Moreover they are too random!!! Keeping these factors in mind, it would be safe to say that Warwick is (at least) equivalent to Glasgow & Strathclyde on academic reputation for the LLM. Thus the other factors come into play (employment, English/ Scottish Law) and Warwick appears to be a better bet.

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@gamayun
Congrats on the Chevening!!! If I understand your problem correctly you are concerned with the overlap in the two courses in August 06. To be honest I am not sure what the University policy is. I am a final year LLB student at Warwick and don't really know too much about their policy regarding early completion of the degree. I guess you could mail the Law School and explain your situation and ask them if they would allow you to leave by July. You could also check the modes of assessment for the modules you are interested in and their course schedule. The dissertation is usually due in Sept and you could finish it before its deadline. However, not sure how you would deal with the final exams which may be scheduled in August. Best bet would be to mail both your Law Schools (UK & USA) and see if they can be a bit more flexible. Sorry I couldnt be of more help. Good luck!!!

@Russ
Yeah I totally agree with you about the academic quotient. However, the rankings are for LLB courses and there are no LLM rankings published in the UK. Moreover they are too random!!! Keeping these factors in mind, it would be safe to say that Warwick is (at least) equivalent to Glasgow & Strathclyde on academic reputation for the LLM. Thus the other factors come into play (employment, English/ Scottish Law) and Warwick appears to be a better bet.

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I have to admit I don't know much about Warwick or Glasgow in particular. However, I don't think a Scottish LLM is a disadvantage. Of course, it won't make much sense to study Scottish law if you want to work for an English law firm, since the legal system in Scotland differs considerably from the English system. If you take courses on international law it won't make any difference though if you're at an English or Scottish university. I'd rather go for reputation and which courses you like better etc.

the legal system in scotland is not so different from english, there are many similarities in all areas.

<blockquote>I have to admit I don't know much about Warwick or Glasgow in particular. However, I don't think a Scottish LLM is a disadvantage. Of course, it won't make much sense to study Scottish law if you want to work for an English law firm, since the legal system in Scotland differs considerably from the English system. If you take courses on international law it won't make any difference though if you're at an English or Scottish university. I'd rather go for reputation and which courses you like better etc. </blockquote>
the legal system in scotland is not so different from english, there are many similarities in all areas.
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