Durham or Manchester ? pls. suggest.


hi everyone ,
i have unconditional offer + visa letter from Manchester uni. for Int. Business & Commercial Laws. Durham uni. has now also offered me a seat for the same course.

I know Durham ranking is good but overall which uni. is good considering modules, faculty , placement, resources , part time jobs etc.

Pls. suggest.

Thanks

Sandeep
hi everyone ,
i have unconditional offer + visa letter from Manchester uni. for Int. Business & Commercial Laws. Durham uni. has now also offered me a seat for the same course.

I know Durham ranking is good but overall which uni. is good considering modules, faculty , placement, resources , part time jobs etc.

Pls. suggest.

Thanks

Sandeep
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Churchill
I would go to Manchester. It has a bigger international reputation. Plus Manchester has better job opportunities, it is a better place to spend a year (Manchester is a great place to live) and it offers better modules in general in my opinion.
I would go to Manchester. It has a bigger international reputation. Plus Manchester has better job opportunities, it is a better place to spend a year (Manchester is a great place to live) and it offers better modules in general in my opinion.
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Banking
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Churchill
Durham is not second to Oxbridge. KCL, UCL, LSE and Edinburgh are all considered higher than Durham, so I think you should be careful when you state I do not know what I am talking about. What I gave was a personal opinion. I regard Manchester as a better place to live than Durham. I believe it offers a wider range of modules. Plus, Manchester is a large University with a big international profile. Durham is not always heard of if you follow many of the threads here from international students. But I agree that in the UK at least, Durham is more highly regarded. But I was talking internationally, as the poster is an international student I believe. So please show more respect for alternative views.

P.S. You should also note that Manchester's research was ranked 3rd best in the country, behind only Oxford and Cambridge. Further, Manchester has produced more Nobel Prize winners than any other University in the UK outside of Oxbridge. It is also more highly ranked in the world tables. All these factors probably account for its excellent international profile.
Durham is not second to Oxbridge. KCL, UCL, LSE and Edinburgh are all considered higher than Durham, so I think you should be careful when you state I do not know what I am talking about. What I gave was a personal opinion. I regard Manchester as a better place to live than Durham. I believe it offers a wider range of modules. Plus, Manchester is a large University with a big international profile. Durham is not always heard of if you follow many of the threads here from international students. But I agree that in the UK at least, Durham is more highly regarded. But I was talking internationally, as the poster is an international student I believe. So please show more respect for alternative views.

P.S. You should also note that Manchester's research was ranked 3rd best in the country, behind only Oxford and Cambridge. Further, Manchester has produced more Nobel Prize winners than any other University in the UK outside of Oxbridge. It is also more highly ranked in the world tables. All these factors probably account for its excellent international profile.
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Banking
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Churchill
Not internationally Banking. I don't even think in the UK either. But UCL easily has a better international reputation. Many students go back to their home countries after an LLM. And trust me, these countries will be much more impressed with a postgraduate degree from a University of London college like UCL, than what they would from Durham. Look at Wikipedia, and see who is included in the golden triangle, i.e. the elite 3 universities. Yep, you guessed it, those are Oxford, Cambridge and University of London. They are undoubtedly the best 3. Especially when you look at international prestige. Just look through many of the threads on this website. Almost everyone agrees that those 3 are the best.
Not internationally Banking. I don't even think in the UK either. But UCL easily has a better international reputation. Many students go back to their home countries after an LLM. And trust me, these countries will be much more impressed with a postgraduate degree from a University of London college like UCL, than what they would from Durham. Look at Wikipedia, and see who is included in the golden triangle, i.e. the elite 3 universities. Yep, you guessed it, those are Oxford, Cambridge and University of London. They are undoubtedly the best 3. Especially when you look at international prestige. Just look through many of the threads on this website. Almost everyone agrees that those 3 are the best.
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Thanks George, after considering all the things n relying on advice frm my frnds who hv completed thr llm frm manchester i hv finally decided for Manchester uni.
Thanks George, after considering all the things n relying on advice frm my frnds who hv completed thr llm frm manchester i hv finally decided for Manchester uni.
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pedrinus
I do think Durham is a much better law school than Manchester, there is no argument there.

As far as the LLM is concerned maybe the course offerings are bigger in Manchester but Durham has enlarged their course list and it seems that for the 2010/2011 there will be further courses in that list.

As for the place to live, Manchester is a relatively nice place to live. Big city and lots of bars but I am not fan.

I would think Durham is more of a bigger hitter in the corporate world than Manchester. Just my personal opinion
I do think Durham is a much better law school than Manchester, there is no argument there.

As far as the LLM is concerned maybe the course offerings are bigger in Manchester but Durham has enlarged their course list and it seems that for the 2010/2011 there will be further courses in that list.

As for the place to live, Manchester is a relatively nice place to live. Big city and lots of bars but I am not fan.

I would think Durham is more of a bigger hitter in the corporate world than Manchester. Just my personal opinion
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Guys sorry to break the bubble of all those vouching for how good Manchester Uni is (also known as Uniof ) but it is nothing as all of you seem to know of it above .
I got a chev scholarship and made the mistake of choosing Manchester Uni over the london ones being expensive and also because i had some relatives there and due to the costs of living which till date i regret . It is indeed embarrasing but i have to admit that i am appalled at the way LLM is conducted in this uni and for me it broke all my expectations at what education in the UK would be like . I have a million reasons not to recommend University of Manchester for LLM ( and only a few to do ) . Althought the rankings of the university have gone down in the past few years ( the rankings only represent the undergrad law school ranking btw) it is far better than what it should actually be . Most of the professors are either retired barristers out of touch with the current happenings in the legal sphere or Phd students who are usually doing it to get grants and are usually not much older (knowledgeable) than you are being stumped at usual interventions . Most of the studies are expected to take place before or after coming to class and the only thing done by professors is enlighten on topics given out of pre printed module sheets . The exams again are not fair as each question carries 33 marks and you are expected to understand and attempt all your semesters learnings at the risky attempt of 3 out of 4 questions which in my view can never justify a students ability . There have been instances where 98% students in a particular class have failed . Classes are usually 2-3 hours a day a maximum of 3 times a week leaving a lot of time for you to wonder . The Class would mostly be filled by South Asian (read India Pak SL Bangladesh) or South East Asian (Chinese Malaysian Korean ) students and a below 10% of east european students and only maybe 2%-3% of British students missing the whole point of getting an international experience as most of the British students take up LPC or training contracts after their LLB's . Finding Jobs are a big no no with a Manchester Uni LLM . Anyways looks like I can go on forever here so if you have any further questions please email me or message me here and i shall be very glad to help you out . Cheers.
"PLEASE READ"
Guys sorry to break the bubble of all those vouching for how good Manchester Uni is (also known as Uniof ) but it is nothing as all of you seem to know of it above .
I got a chev scholarship and made the mistake of choosing Manchester Uni over the london ones being expensive and also because i had some relatives there and due to the costs of living which till date i regret . It is indeed embarrasing but i have to admit that i am appalled at the way LLM is conducted in this uni and for me it broke all my expectations at what education in the UK would be like . I have a million reasons not to recommend University of Manchester for LLM ( and only a few to do ) . Althought the rankings of the university have gone down in the past few years ( the rankings only represent the undergrad law school ranking btw) it is far better than what it should actually be . Most of the professors are either retired barristers out of touch with the current happenings in the legal sphere or Phd students who are usually doing it to get grants and are usually not much older (knowledgeable) than you are being stumped at usual interventions . Most of the studies are expected to take place before or after coming to class and the only thing done by professors is enlighten on topics given out of pre printed module sheets . The exams again are not fair as each question carries 33 marks and you are expected to understand and attempt all your semesters learnings at the risky attempt of 3 out of 4 questions which in my view can never justify a students ability . There have been instances where 98% students in a particular class have failed . Classes are usually 2-3 hours a day a maximum of 3 times a week leaving a lot of time for you to wonder . The Class would mostly be filled by South Asian (read India Pak SL Bangladesh) or South East Asian (Chinese Malaysian Korean ) students and a below 10% of east european students and only maybe 2%-3% of British students missing the whole point of getting an international experience as most of the British students take up LPC or training contracts after their LLB's . Finding Jobs are a big no no with a Manchester Uni LLM . Anyways looks like I can go on forever here so if you have any further questions please email me or message me here and i shall be very glad to help you out . Cheers.
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